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    Rafa Benitez offers his support for demoted official Mike Jones

    I know this is also in the news section, but I wanted to discuss it and you can't in there so sue me

    Tony Barrett, 20 October 2009
    The Times

    Rafael Benítez, the Liverpool manager, has again passed up the opportunity to criticise Mike Jones, the referee who failed to rule out Sunderland’s winning goal against the Merseyside club on Saturday. Darren Bent’s shot found the net via a deflection off a beach ball that had been thrown onto the pitch.

    Jones was yesterday demoted from Barclays Premier League duties for the forthcoming weekend after his failure to implement the Fifa law which stipulates that games should be stopped in the event of any outside interference. The official will take charge of the Coca-Cola Championship fixture at London Road between Peterborough United and Scunthorpe United.

    Jones has been heavily criticised by Graham Poll, Dermot Gallagher and Jeff Winter, his former colleagues, but Benítez, although still surprised at the error, has taken a different tack, choosing to offer the referee his support. The Spaniard also ruled out any possibility of Liverpool asking for the match to be replayed.

    “The situation is that we cannot change this,” Benítez said. “I think that the rule is very clear. Everybody knows and all the experts agree that the goal had to be disallowed but we cannot do anything now so we have to move forward.

    “I don’t know if he didn’t know about the rule, maybe he couldn’t see. Anyway I think that it is better to move on. I think the referees and Keith Hackett [the general manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd] know that a mistake has been made, but I do not want to criticise. He is a young referee and there are not too many referees around the world, so if you have someone who has a passion and wants to be a good referee, then the best thing to do is to just move on.

    “I said after the game that we did not play well because I did not want to use the incident as an excuse. It was an important situation because, with the problems that we had, to start the game by going a goal behind was not the best situation for us.

    “But still it is something that you have to forget and to think only about what you can influence now, like this Champions League game [against Lyons at Anfield this evening]. A lot of people are saying that the game should be replayed but we will not be asking for this.”
    How many Premier League manager's would come out and say things like this after a massive refereeing cock up? Mr Ferguson for one would have absolutely pilloried the referee.

    Rather than hide behind it to disguise what was a really poor performance on Saturday, he actually appears to be playing the incident down somewhat - and directing the focus onto our bad performance. It makes a refreshing change, and is a slap in the face to a few posters on here who immediately after the final whistle were posting things like "what **** excuse will Rafa come out with this time" etc.

    Whilst I kind of wish the club had kicked up more of a fuss over what could end up being a rather costly refereeing mistake, I'm kind of proud that we as a club, and particularly the manager haven't come out of this looking like bitter bad losers (however within our rights we would have been to do so).

    Anyone agree/disagree/really give a ****?

    #2
    It's a nice thing to do and you know where nice guys finish.

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      #3
      It could work in our favour in the sense that referees might show more leniency towards us, or it could backfire because they'll think we're soft. If there's a contentious decision to be made in the game against United the referee's still going to be more worried about Ferguson's reaction than Rafa's. I just wish referees were at the standard required for the PL, too many stupid decisions.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Chrono View Post
        It's a nice thing to do and you know where nice guys finish.
        Well there are always exceptions to the rules so....

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          #5
          I hope so

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            #6
            I really don't see what there is to be gained by attacking a referee on a one off incident like this. In that sense it was an easy win - to be seen to be a good guy without losing anything. However it is exceptionally rare for anyone in football to take the graceful stance and as such it is refreshing.
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              #7
              Agreed mate. Rafa wasn't happy after that awful performance on Saturday. I was amazed at the stupid comments calling for his head when clearly the players didn't perform. There was no leadership out there. It's difficult to know why, because last year we performed even without Gerrard and Torres. Remember the game against the same Sunderland when Voronin and al played and we won?

              I am convinced that some players have had a rollicking on Saturday and I expect us to react in positive way (much the same way when we beat Real and Manure last season) this time around too, with or without Torres and Gerrard. Rafa won't tolerate anymore of this.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Chrono View Post
                It's a nice thing to do and you know where nice guys finish.
                It's got nothing to do with Rafa being a 'nice guy'. He is intelligent enough to know that with or without that goal against, we didn't deserve anything from the game. If we had battered them and didn't have any luck maybe that would have been different and you would have seen another Rafa, but that wasn't the case.

                It would have been pretty stupid to attack the referee where at the end of the day, we didn't deserve anything out of this game.

                I'm pretty sure that if that goal had been disallowed, Rafa would have been fuming for it to be awarded.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by redder View Post
                  I'm pretty sure that if that goal had been disallowed, Rafa would have been fuming for it to be awarded.
                  I think that maybe going a little too far

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                    #10
                    A classy response indeed.
                    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                      #11
                      Whilst I agree with how the club, well Rafa has responded to this inexcusable show of incompetence (and I am talking about the referee and not our performance), I do find the line 'I think that the rule is very clear' a strange one as it was quite clear that nearly no one knew the rule otherwise we would have protested a hell of a lot more than we did.

                      I think we should be protesting a lot more, that goal could end up costing us Champions League football, cost Rafa his job etc etc. This isn't the same as a referee missing a foul, a handball, a ball crossing the line, this is a blatant lack of knowing the rules of the game, what he is supposed to know, what he is paid for.

                      I also think that someone from the FA, the Premier League and the **** Jones should all be held accountable and made to explain what happened and what they intend to do rather than stay quiet and thankful that Rafa, after being up on a charge and therefore on his best behaviour, is being quiet and as for demoting Jones for a weekend what the fcuk is that going to achieve. He quite clearly needs to be dropped for the rest of the season and sent back to 'referee school'

                      One last thing, as I am waffling and I don't even know if what I have typed makes any sense as I have man flu, is what 'fat'ed' said about if you know the rule than you were sad, well looks like i'm sad as I knew the rule but what isn't sad is that four officials didn't!!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Reece View Post
                        I think that maybe going a little too far
                        But you get the jist.

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                          #13
                          It's a very good psychological move from Benitez. Benitez, not only is pressuring the players to perform tonight but also somewhat softens this young referee for the decision hopefully for years to come

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Reece View Post
                            I know this is also in the news section, but I wanted to discuss it and you can't in there so sue me



                            How many Premier League manager's would come out and say things like this after a massive refereeing cock up? Mr Ferguson for one would have absolutely pilloried the referee.

                            Rather than hide behind it to disguise what was a really poor performance on Saturday, he actually appears to be playing the incident down somewhat - and directing the focus onto our bad performance. It makes a refreshing change, and is a slap in the face to a few posters on here who immediately after the final whistle were posting things like "what **** excuse will Rafa come out with this time" etc.

                            Whilst I kind of wish the club had kicked up more of a fuss over what could end up being a rather costly refereeing mistake, I'm kind of proud that we as a club, and particularly the manager haven't come out of this looking like bitter bad losers (however within our rights we would have been to do so).

                            Anyone agree/disagree/really give a ****?
                            I agree.
                            Oh I don't know.

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                              #15
                              I don't think this necessarily makes rafa out to be a nice guy - which he most certainly isn't anyway - becasue i think it has something to do with the pack of cunts we're playing next sunday. and you just know that mr. ferguson will read this in the week he's finally being charged. rafa hoping to wind him up again methinks.
                              Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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