Torres may need surgery

[DannyMan2006]

By the way, Ballague was on Sky Sports News.

Torres does not have a problem with his hernia, it is his groin. He does NOT need surgery, just rest. It has been decided that Spain will not call up Torres for the forth coming friendlies, and will instead allow him the ten day rest, which should put this problem to bed.

It is the same injury as Gerrard but not as serious. In an ideal situation Torres would not play as there is always that chance the injury could become worse, hence they are nursing him through the games.

But at this stage right now, he only needs rest, which he will get in the international break.

[qabiri]

Bring back Nemeth.

[Roboklopp]

It is painfully obviuos rafa had the money pulled from him.

[The Birdman]

By the way, Ballague was on Sky Sports News.

Torres does not have a problem with his hernia, it is his groin. He does NOT need surgery, just rest. It has been decided that Spain will not call up Torres for the forth coming friendlies, and will instead allow him the ten day rest, which should put this problem to bed.

It is the same injury as Gerrard but not as serious. In an ideal situation Torres would not play as there is always that chance the injury could become worse, hence they are nursing him through the games.

But at this stage right now, he only needs rest, which he will get in the international break.

If what Ballague says is true (and I for one having read his books think he is a bit of a mouthpiece for Rafa) and Torres doesn't need surgery then all I can say is thank holy mother****ing **** for that.

[tomasjj]

For me, the signs point that the Alonso money was pulled from Rafa very late in the window as a result of the banks' insistence to pay back some of the debt. I remember very clear quotes from Rafa on Voronin's situation that suggest he was after a striker but then a week or so later Rafa suddenly changed his tone and said Voronin might still have a role to play.

I don't believe Rafa knew the money would disappear when he's spent a significant amount on Glen Johnson. There is no doubt in my mind that the Alonso money as well as the Keane money has went into that £60m debt payment and Rafa's plans were seriously hurt in the summer as a result of G&H struggling to hit a new refinancing deal.

There is just no way you could convince me that Rafa looked at N'Gog and Voronin and said to himself that this was going to be our back up for Gerrard and Torres. No chance in hell.

Someone as meticulous as Rafa would not have signed a full back for 17mill, to leave peanuts for a striker and a center back. No way.

[Exiled_red]

I say bring back Nemeth from his loan.

Bring back Nemeth.

What role do you see Nemeth playing if he comes back?

Back up to Ngog or backup to Torres or partner for Ngog when Torres is out?

[javier_monsterano]

**** off you cunt,let's do a salman rushdie on this guy.

Thinking the unthinkable: should Liverpool sell Torres?

It is a little glib to suggest that Liverpool have a one-man strike force in Fernando Torres.

It seems almost beyond dispute, though, that whenever the Spaniard is unavailable Liverpool look ill equipped to challenge for the title, a situation hardly helped by the sales of Xabi Alonso, Robbie Keane and Alvaro Arbeloa in the past year.

I realise this could come across as heresy to Liverpool fans, but might the answer be to sell Torres too?

Torres is, without question, an exceptional player but he is not irreplaceable. Liverpool have won nothing with the Spaniard in attack because they simply do not have the same in-depth quality that Chelsea and Manchester United can boast.

If Cristiano Ronaldo was worth 80 million when he moved from Manchester United to Real Madrid, Torres should command a similar figure.

With that money Liverpool could buy three, maybe four, top drawer players who would give their squad more balance. Valencia striker David Villa would cost around 30 million and would be a handy replacement for Torres, as would Atletico Madrid’s Argentine frontman Sergio Aguero. Either, or both of them, would leave manager Rafael Benitez enough left over to strengthen in other areas.

Villa’s team mate David Silva would add some creativity in Liverpool’s midfield as would Tottenham Hotspur’s midfield spark Luca Modric or his team mate Aaron Lennon, if they could be prised away.

With Liverpool’s debts unlikely to ease any time soon, Benitez will probably need to sell before bringing in new blood but few of their current squad, apart from Torres, Gerrard and midfield anchor Javier Mascherano, would raise the kind of money that they would require for a major squad overhaul.

Selling Torres might be the one step back Liverpool need to take in order to take two forward because at present they appear to be getting left behind

http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2009/11/03/thinking-the-unthinkable-should-liverpool-sell-torres/?rpc=401

[Shanks]

What role do you see Nemeth playing if he comes back?

Back up to Ngog or backup to Torres or partner for Ngog when Torres is out?

As a striker will do.

We just need someone to put the ball in the frickin net..

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As a striker will do.

We just need someone to put the ball in the frickin net..

But there's no point in bringing him back if he's not going to play. He's very inexperienced and needs time and games to develop properly, Ngog is further along in his development and more experienced despite being a similar age.

[Shaggy]

**** off you cunt,let's do a salman rushdie on this guy.

Thinking the unthinkable: should Liverpool sell Torres?

It is a little glib to suggest that Liverpool have a one-man strike force in Fernando Torres.

It seems almost beyond dispute, though, that whenever the Spaniard is unavailable Liverpool look ill equipped to challenge for the title, a situation hardly helped by the sales of Xabi Alonso, Robbie Keane and Alvaro Arbeloa in the past year.

I realise this could come across as heresy to Liverpool fans, but might the answer be to sell Torres too?

Torres is, without question, an exceptional player but he is not irreplaceable. Liverpool have won nothing with the Spaniard in attack because they simply do not have the same in-depth quality that Chelsea and Manchester United can boast.

If Cristiano Ronaldo was worth 80 million when he moved from Manchester United to Real Madrid, Torres should command a similar figure.

With that money Liverpool could buy three, maybe four, top drawer players who would give their squad more balance. Valencia striker David Villa would cost around 30 million and would be a handy replacement for Torres, as would Atletico Madrid’s Argentine frontman Sergio Aguero. Either, or both of them, would leave manager Rafael Benitez enough left over to strengthen in other areas.

Villa’s team mate David Silva would add some creativity in Liverpool’s midfield as would Tottenham Hotspur’s midfield spark Luca Modric or his team mate Aaron Lennon, if they could be prised away.

With Liverpool’s debts unlikely to ease any time soon, Benitez will probably need to sell before bringing in new blood but few of their current squad, apart from Torres, Gerrard and midfield anchor Javier Mascherano, would raise the kind of money that they would require for a major squad overhaul.

Selling Torres might be the one step back Liverpool need to take in order to take two forward because at present they appear to be getting left behind




http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2009...orres/?rpc=401

What an absolutely moronic article.

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What an absolutely moronic article.

[The Erectile Banana]

For me, the signs point that the Alonso money was pulled from Rafa very late in the window as a result of the banks' insistence to pay back some of the debt. I remember very clear quotes from Rafa on Voronin's situation that suggest he was after a striker but then a week or so later Rafa suddenly changed his tone and said Voronin might still have a role to play.

I don't believe Rafa knew the money would disappear when he's spent a significant amount on Glen Johnson. There is no doubt in my mind that the Alonso money as well as the Keane money has went into that £60m debt payment and Rafa's plans were seriously hurt in the summer as a result of G&H struggling to hit a new refinancing deal.

There is just no way you could convince me that Rafa looked at N'Gog and Voronin and said to himself that this was going to be our back up for Gerrard and Torres. No chance in hell.

Excellent post mate.

Completely agree with your sentiments.