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They same person who has shut your account 
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i wouldn't say he's that bad a footballer even though he should have scored against lyon.
anyway, he seems a bit lost to me. unaware of what his role in the team is and unaware of the movements and playing style of those around him. like he fails to settle in the team. that puzzled look on his face says it all really.Comment
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He just looks like his confidence is shot too me.Originally posted by fred_plasticine View PostComment
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Well he has made his father proud. He's now very famous.By Igor Linnyk
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Football is a sport where miracles can happen. The story of Andriy Voronin is living proof of that, and the tale of how a little-known player suddenly became one of the most sought-after talents in Germany should warm the hearts of even the most sceptical observers.
Rise to prominence
Voronin plays for 1. FSV Mainz 05 in the 2. Bundesliga, where he is now so well-respected that his picture adorns the front page of the team's official website. The club currently lie in second place in the table and are realistic challengers for promotion, with Voronin scoring 16 goals in 21 games so far this season. It is little wonder he has attracted the attention of a number of top clubs, both in Germany and around Europe.
International impact
In November 2002, Voronin made his debut for the Ukraine and, having scored his side's decisive second goal in the 2-0 victory against Greece, started the next game against Northern Ireland and has quickly become an important team member in Ukraine's UEFA EURO 2004™ qualifying campaign. It caps a remarkable rise to prominence for the 23-year-old, who has had to endure a number of setbacks already in his fledgling career.
"My father would always be dreaming about me becoming a famous football player "Andriy Voronin
Football in the blood
Voronin took his first footballing steps at Lazurnoye More, a private academy in Odessa, before moving to Germany at the age of 15. He remembers how it was always his dream to be a professional. "My father would always be dreaming about me becoming a famous football player who [would] make our name famous," he said. "When I was six, he took me to the academy, and soon afterwards I saw the 1986 [FIFA] World Cup in Mexico, with the incredible Diego Maradona. He has remained my football hero ever since."
Dream debut
VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach scouts spotted the determined and dynamic youngster when he was playing for Ukraine's Under-16 side and quickly signed him. In a dream start, Voronin made his debut in 1997 alongside such illustrious names as Stefan Effenberg, Martin Dahlin and Toni Polster against FC Bayern München at the Olympiastadion.
'My chance never came'
However, from such a promising beginning things quickly went awry at Mönchengladbach, as Voronin recalls. "The team was falling apart, the coaches were changing very quickly, and each of them was keen to use experienced players to keep the club alive," he said. "I was asking for a chance, but it never came."
'I would have gone anywhere'
It was at this point that Voronin, nicknamed Vorona or the Raven, showed his independent streak. "In despair, I was ready to leave and go wherever I could, even to Mainz, who were bottom of 2. Bundesliga then," he said. "I thought it would be great for me to go there, because I could possibly make the starting eleven."
Rising value
Voronin joined Mainz for €45,000 in 2000, and began to flourish after Jürgen Klopp became coach the following summer. He has played as a winger, a playmaker and an out-and-out striker, and has enjoyed success in all three roles. Today, his estimated value is 100 times that initial transfer fee.
Summer dilemma
Voronin becomes a free agent this summer when his contract expires and, although he has said he does not necessarily want to leave, he insists he will not play in the second division again next season. A number of clubs are monitoring the situation in the hope of signing a player who looks set to follow in the footsteps of fellow countryman Andriy Shevchenko and illuminate Europe with his talent.Comment
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voronin has had a difficult and disrupted time with us.
he's never going to be a world beater but there's absolutely no reason why he didnt grow to become as influential as say garcia or benayoun.
he can play, he can control a ball and is a pretty clever player.
He just hasnt had a lot of time to settle in. If he was played week in week out for a season then he'd have settled a lot better. instead he came, was a bit part player, was shipped out on loan for a full year, we then tried to offload him and then had to keep him. and even then, he gets sod all playing time.
the honest answer is that we have been as big a let down to him as he has been to us.Comment
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I presume you're being sarcastic as I'd never had said he'd have been great.Originally posted by PeteBest View Post
Would have been a great player for us.
My point is that if he'd have settled in to the extent that he could have done what he did in germany for us, then last season, we may have won one or two more than we did.
He's basically not been given a fair crack of the whip and I can see how even if he wanted to he would have struggled to settle with us.Comment
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