Pacheco

[dww]

i would expect to see him on the bench with N'gog though different types of forwards

The thing is though we have a fair number of options for the non main striker position. If you assume that two of Kuyt, Benayoun and Riera start then you have one of them plus Babel, El Zhar and Pacheco looking for the same opportunities.

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The thing is though we have a fair number of options for the non main striker position. If you assume that two of Kuyt, Benayoun and Riera start then you have one of them plus Babel, El Zhar and Pacheco looking for the same opportunities.

True, specially when Kuyt is a definite starter for the right.

[frank the tank]

i have said it all along - i'd rather see pacheco play than voronin - but then again i'd actually rather start with 10 men than voronin....

rafa will start with the first team against arsenal - no worries about that - maybe something like :

------------------REINA-----------------------

JOHNSON--CARRA-------AGGER---------INSUA

----------MASCHER------LUCAS---------------

KUYT------------GERRARD-------------BENAYOUN

-----------------TORRES-----------------------


No problems with that to be honest. What wrecks my head is the fact that he will probably have Skrtel, Dossena and Kyriakos on the bench - and maybe Aurelio too!!! What a head-wrecker!!! I'd rather see a bench of Cavalieri, Skrtel, Aurelio, Aquilani, Riera, NGog, Pacheco..........we set up our bench to hold a lead as opposed to win a game we are drawing - very frustrating!!! At the end of the day, if the sh1t really hit the fan, then mascher could go back to defense......... also, our BEST right back is Gerrard (as he proved in Istanbul) - so lets just say that johnson, carra and insua all got injured during the game, it wouldn't be the end of the world to have a team of:

REINA

MASCHER----SKRTEL---AGGER----AURELIO

--------LUCAS------GERRARD------------

KUYT----------BENAYOUN---------RIERA

----------------TORRES-----------------


Look at manU - Macheda won them the feckin league last year with 2 winning goals...... i know that is a bit of an exageration but there is no doubt that they bring young players through way more than us - and it pays off......

[calvoboy]

Thought his movement when he came on was fantastic. Always looking for the ball, seemed to have a nice first touch, and not afraid to take on responsibility and have a shot. Promising, but it's best not to get carried away based on one cameo.

By contrast, I don't think Darby showed much last night to suggest that he's going to make it. Again, I won't write him off after one bad game, but his positioning was woeful at times and he looked out of his depth.

Since Aquilani was mentioned in the original post, I thought it was a promising debut. Good first touch, and first time pass. Spots a through ball well, and likes to get forward. He looked way short of match fitness though. Rafa, who sees him every day in training, was right, and most of us were wrong.

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Thought his movement when he came on was fantastic. Always looking for the ball, seemed to have a nice first touch, and not afraid to take on responsibility and have a shot. Promising, but it's best not to get carried away based on one cameo.

By contrast, I don't think Darby showed much last night to suggest that he's going to make it. Again, I won't write him off after one bad game, but his positioning was woeful at times and he looked out of his depth.


Since Aquilani was mentioned in the original post, I thought it was a promising debut. Good first touch, and first time pass. Spots a through ball well, and likes to get forward. He looked way short of match fitness though. Rafa, who sees him every day in training, was right, and most of us were wrong.

i mentiuoned this in the match thread, but course he was out of his depth he is a young lad playing in the champions league against a top Italian side, For Darby its about learning from that and moving things forward. I think he could be a very good RB in years to come he has a lot of natural talenrt, pace and aggression.

[Parm]

The only way he will keep improving is if he gets to play alongside quality players by getting minutes in the first team. Now that we are out the title race and into the europa league too I see no reason why Rafa shouldn't give him chances

Exactly, he and some of the other kids have to be given the opportunity now to develop or we will never know if we have some talent there to utilise.

[RedReet]

Thought his movement when he came on was fantastic. Always looking for the ball, seemed to have a nice first touch, and not afraid to take on responsibility and have a shot. Promising, but it's best not to get carried away based on one cameo.

By contrast, I don't think Darby showed much last night to suggest that he's going to make it. Again, I won't write him off after one bad game, but his positioning was woeful at times and he looked out of his depth.

Since Aquilani was mentioned in the original post, I thought it was a promising debut. Good first touch, and first time pass. Spots a through ball well, and likes to get forward. He looked way short of match fitness though. Rafa, who sees him every day in training, was right, and most of us were wrong.

That’s a fair assessment.

I really liked how Pacheco was always calling for the ball, regardless of who was in possession, or even if they were in a better position. The boy clearly has confidence in himself. We’ve had too many players at the club who seem to be intimidated by Gerrard and would sacrifice their own game to give him possession at every opportunity.

[RedReet]

i mentiuoned this in the match thread, but course he was out of his depth he is a young lad playing in the champions league against a top Italian side, For Darby its about learning from that and moving things forward. I think he could be a very good RB in years to come he has a lot of natural talenrt, pace and aggression.

He seemed just a bit too eager to me, although I wouldn’t be worried if I saw his name on the team sheet again in the near future. Better more experienced players than Darby have made worse debuts than that.

[redstaralex]

What a rather lame statement.

Why are you comparing him against Aquilani FFS.

he came on for Aquilani and has played similar amounts of minutes hence statement rather than comparison

Ok then,

I thought Aquilani showed more first touch passes than Pacheco did in the whole time he was on the pitch.

See, it doesn't work...

not sure this deserves a response

Pacheco is a great little player who will hopefully come good but you can't even begin to compare him to Aquilani in that game tonight as they are two completely different types of player

if anyone on this site thinks that they're the same type of player they should be banned so this is a nothing statement

but that's your opinion.

but they're just my responses

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We should hardly be surprised at how good Pacheco was/is, wasnt he the jewel in the crown at barca when we nicked him?

[calvoboy]

i mentiuoned this in the match thread, but course he was out of his depth he is a young lad playing in the champions league against a top Italian side, For Darby its about learning from that and moving things forward. I think he could be a very good RB in years to come he has a lot of natural talenrt, pace and aggression.

Absolutely, and that's why I made clear that I won't write him off based on one bad performance last night. Sometimes though you have to throw them into a game like last night's to find out what level they are at and see if they sink or swim. Kelly looked good when he was thrown in earlier in the season (before his badly timed injury!), whereas Darby looked like he's got some way to go yet. Goes without saying that I hope he does manage to learn from last night's experience and come back as a better player for it.

[redstaralex]

Absolutely, and that's why I made clear that I won't write him off based on one iffy performance last night. Sometimes though you have to throw them into a game like last night's to find out what level they are at and see if they sink or swim. Kelly looked good when he was thrown in earlier in the season (before his badly timed injury!), whereas Darby looked like he's got some way to go yet. Goes without saying that I hope he does manage to learn from last night's experience and come back as a better player for it.

I agree that Darby had a decent game last night, that's the 2nd time I've seen him "live" and first time he was cautious and defensive but last night he attacked a bit more, I just hope that the mistake he made doesn't affect him too much

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DANI PACHECO has explained how he was making up for lost time in Wednesday's Champions League defeat to Fiorentina.
The exciting Spanish prospect came off the bench for his first-team debut at Anfield and impressed, almost scoring with his first touch.

After arriving from Barcelona as a raw 17-year-old, the forward has had to be patient but is hopeful of earning more opportunities under Rafa Benitez.

Pacheco was initially pencilled in to take part in the Reds' Carling Cup tie with Arsenal but a call-up for Spain's Under-19 scuppered his big chance, and left him fuming.

"It was the weirdest situation," he said. "It happened a month ago.

"The football federation called me to play in the qualifiers for the European Under-19 Championship and then Rafa told me he would call me too play in the Carling Cup and I had to say no.

"My first feelings were of anger and rage because the competition is very nice on top of playing against Arsenal.

"I was p****d off but then I thought about it and said to myself well, the national team is calling me."

Pacheco is highly thought of on Merseyside but needs to bide his time before aiming to become a regular in the first-team squad.

"I did the pre-season with the first team a year ago," he told Malaga Hoy in his homeland. "When I was 17.

"Also this year, Rafa spoke to me to tell me it was not going to be the defining year but it was nonetheless important, that I had to take this year as a year to grow.

"So the pre-season was not going to be like before but I had to enjoy myself, learn and be part of the team and that's what I've tried to do."

[Fantastic Torres]

If El Zhar plays Pacheco should be a key player. He has the potential
to turn our season into something to smile about. I don't expect him
to nail down a first team place, scoring 50+goals but I'd like to see more
of him.

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Daniel Pacheco has been praised by Rafael Benitez.

The 18 year old striker made his first team debut as a subsitute against Fiorentina last week and his confident performance there along with an excellent season so far for the reserves has earned him the praise of Rafa Benitez.

"Pacheco is a player with quality who has been doing really well for the reserve team," said the boss.

"When you are a young player with quality you need to show the passion and the spirit. We didn't have any doubt about him in terms of his quality and now he has to keep working hard because he is very close to the first team squad.

"He showed his quality when he came on against Fiorentina and he also showed that he wasn't afraid of his opponents.

"He now needs to keep working hard and be consistent. If he can do that then he will have a chance with the first team."

http://www.lfconline.com/news/tmnw/pacheco_praised_477282/index.shtml