Milan Jovanovic

[dww]

He was pretty good at Euro 2004. Many would say that Gerrard has never really done it at international level.

Both Rooney and Gerrard have though produced consistently in the Champions League, which you could argue is of a higher quality than the World Cup/Euros.

Also the whole team was very good in qualifying for this WC.

[Craig_H]

Personally I've never rated Rooney. He's never, ever done it for England - never at all - so he's performing in the World Cup exactly like he always has for England and exactly as I expected him to. No goals in a major international tournament for 6 years and recently went three whole years without scoring a goal in a competitive international. "Donkey" would be harsh, of course, but massively, hugely, over-rated is about right.

You keep peddling this tripe, but 25 international goals in 63 games says otherwise. As does Euro 2004.

Still, never let the facts get in the way of daft emotionally-influenced opinions...

And your 'No goals in a tournament for 6 years' thing is laughable too. Until this world cup, england hadnt played in a tournament for 4 years...

Bit like saying 'Liverpool have never beaten AFC Wimbledon'

[SB]

True, like i stated though i am only judging Krasic on what i have seen albeit very little, that's all i can do.

He started brightly today but faded badly and was rightly subbed. ( but he was up against the might and power that is AUSTRALIA)

[SB]

Personally I've never rated Rooney. He's never, ever done it for England - never at all - so he's performing in the World Cup exactly like he always has for England and exactly as I expected him to. No goals in a major international tournament for 6 years and recently went three whole years without scoring a goal in a competitive international. "Donkey" would be harsh, of course, but massively, hugely, over-rated is about right.

He doesn't produce at the same high standard that he does for man u unfortunately

[Tatterdemalion]

Assuming this thread is still about Jovanovic - there is a story today that he might sign for Inter instead. If true I think he needs to recognise that the primary reason for Rafa's interest was that he was free, not that he is a good player. There is no way that Rafa needs him at Inter.

[Craig_H]

If rafa didnt think he was good, he wouldnt be trying to take him to Inter now.

[Mostar]

He started brightly today but faded badly and was rightly subbed. ( but he was up against the might and power that is AUSTRALIA)

It wasn't one of his better games but I guess we could say the same thing for most of Serbian players in yesterday's game.

I still think he is comin' regardless of Inter's rumors.

[Fernandinho]

australia have a knack for restricting good teams (minus germany )

[SB]

He has failed to impress me so far (Krasic) only seen him in these two games so obviously know nothing about him.

Heard he is a cracking player, not shown it yet though.

He started brightly today but faded badly and was rightly subbed. ( but he was up against the might and power that is AUSTRALIA)

It wasn't one of his better games but I guess we could say the same thing for most of Serbian players in yesterday's game.

I still think he is comin' regardless of Inter's rumors.

Sorry mate we are on about Krasic and not Jovanic. I do agree that I think he'll come. The comments about him opting out are just plain trash journalism IMO.

[Neil Young]

If he goes to Inter that's fine. We'll be getting Zamora in instead.

IAFN

[Pablo]

if he goes to inter that's fine. We'll be getting zamora in instead.

iafn

:iafn:

[Redspin]

He was pretty good at Euro 2004. Many would say that Gerrard has never really done it at international level.

Both Rooney and Gerrard have though produced consistently in the Champions League, which you could argue is of a higher quality than the World Cup/Euros.

I believe Rooney got one goal in that tournament, so not all that good for an alleged striker. He hasn't scored a single goal in an international tournament since. So far in this World Cup not only has he not scored, he's had only three shots on target in three matches. Some striker!

Gerrard has done far, far more at international level than Rooney. Let's not gloss over the fact that he's almost always played out of position to accommodate less versatile players, like the pedestrian Lampard (he was yet again hung out to dry on the left yesterday), and yet he still managed to be England's top scorer in the 2006 World Cup, is joint top scorer in this World Cup, while Rooney has failed to score in a tournament since 2004, when he hardly set the world on fire.

To me it's obvious that Gerrard's international performances are vastly superior to the goal-shy alleged world class striker Rooney's. Opinion is one thing, but the facts speak for themselves.

[Redspin]

Also the whole team was very good in qualifying for this WC.

They did all they had to do, but they were playing against very, very poor teams in fairness. It was almost impossible not to qualify from England's pre-World Cup group against such mediocre opposition.

As Rooney has shown, it's one thing looking good against rubbish teams, but it's a different game in the tournament proper

[Shaggy]

I believe Rooney got one goal in that tournament, so not all that good for an alleged striker. He hasn't scored a single goal in an international tournament since. So far in this World Cup not only has he not scored, he's had only three shots on target in three matches. Some striker!

Gerrard has done far, far more at international level than Rooney. Let's not gloss over the fact that he's almost always played out of position to accommodate less versatile players, like the pedestrian Lampard (he was yet again hung out to dry on the left yesterday), and yet he still managed to be England's top scorer in the 2006 World Cup, is joint top scorer in this World Cup, while Rooney has failed to score in a tournament since 2004, when he hardly set the world on fire.

To me it's obvious that Gerrard's international performances are vastly superior to the goal-shy alleged world class striker Rooney's. Opinion is one thing, but the facts speak for themselves.

Although I agree Rooney's wildly overhyped, he scored four goals at Euro 2004.

[Reece]

Although I agree Rooney's wildly overhyped, he scored four goals at Euro 2004.

Beat me to it.

He hardly played at the 2006 World Cup due to injury so this thing about him not scoring in international tournaments is harsh.

Everyone can see he is playing poorly so far at this World Cup (he was England's worst player yesterday), but he is one of England's two genuine world class players in my opinion.