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    I'm not sure if this has been posted already. It's been written by Jonathan Pearce for the BBC website and was put on the site prior to the Stoke game.

    I didn't particularly find it an interesting read however I'm sure some will want to read it. I find after reading these types of things they make me feel really down about the state of the club and the negativity around the place at present. I've tried to look at things more positively of late but it's just so hard.

    You kind of wonder whether we're actually going to get out of this slump.


    Rafa Benitez sowed the seeds of Liverpool's self-destruction a year ago. On the eve of their first league game of 2009, away at Stoke, Rafa's rant lit the touch paper to implosion.

    Now, just before their first Premier game of another New Year, again at Stoke, the club that once dominated Europe is in meltdown.


    All managers err in the market, but mistakes seem to be haunting the beleaguered Spaniard

    What passed for a Liverpool side in the latter stages of Wednesday's FA Cup shambles was an insult to the great players who have worn the famous Liver bird club badge, Anfield's dynasty of managerial legends and all those who have scrimped and saved to follow them over the years.

    Liverpool went to Stoke last January four points clear of Chelsea at the top and seven ahead of Manchester United. They had lost only twice in 31 games and were still in the Champions League and FA Cup.

    Why did Benitez choose that time to launch his astonishing tirade against Sir Alex Ferguson? Why openly show any concern about United when things were going so well?

    The rant was followed by four draws in a row and, though Liverpool were to end the season in thrilling fashion, the outburst changed the course of the season.

    Following the vitriol aimed at their manager, United's players embarked on a nine-match winning run just as Liverpool's insecurities seeped into the open. United lapped it up.

    If this campaign needed to build on last season's challenge, it has been a disaster. To some degree, ill fortune has dogged Benitez, but mistakes have also been made and they they can no longer be swept under the carpet.

    The manager has had to cope with a spiteful American civil war in the boardroom that has been deeply damaging to Liverpool FC on all levels.

    Any manager would have been frustrated by the ensuing financial restrictions, but at times he has used the dispute between George Gillett and Tom Hicks to camouflage underachievement on the pitch.

    Long-term injuries for Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres are not Rafa's fault either, but other title contenders have dealt with the loss of key individuals.

    The world's top player left Manchester United and they are still competing for a treble, while Arsenal have been without Robin van Persie for two months and Cesc Fabregas, on and off, for weeks, yet they are still fighting for honours on three fronts.

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    The body language of the club's top two stars also speaks volumes about Liverpool's plight. Torres is playing as if he wants to be somewhere else and the captain looks distraught.

    There's also no doubt that the side has become over reliant on the pair. Robbie Keane was too easily dismissed as a pawn in the power battle between Benitez and outgoing chief executive Rick Parry, while Peter Crouch has still to be adequately replaced.

    Both transfers brought the club profit, but the pair would have been real assets this season. Andriy Voronin was a disaster and David Ngog is a boy playing in a team that is suffering - his scuffed miss against Reading highlighting a lack of confidence.

    The decision to keep playing Emiliano Insua has also backfired. He's played too much football in a stressed-out side. On Wednesday, he looked shot. The 21-year-old Argentine needs a rest.

    Overall, the quality of Liverpool's young players doesn't compare with that of Arsenal's. The failings of the academy were not initially the fault of Benitez, but, after making radical changes to its set-up, he now must take full responsibility.

    All managers err in the market, but mistakes seem to be haunting the beleaguered Spaniard. The sale of Xabi Alonso was a massive error. Liverpool challenged last season because Alonso played almost twice the number of games that he did in 2007/8. He controlled their rhythm.

    Alberto Aquilani was immediately pressurised as Alonso's direct replacement because of his lengthy injury. But on the evidence of his opening 10 appearances, he is poor value at £20m. Against Reading, he tackled like a wet lettuce and gave the ball away too cheaply late on.


    Aquilani has struggled to settle at Liverpool since returning from injury
    Surely the dependable Sami Hyypia could have been kept for another year, with the Reds losing only two of the 18 games he played in last season. Sotirios Kyrgiakos at £2m looks an expensive stopgap who is out of his depth.

    The club will struggle to recoup the money they laid out for him or others, like Ryan Babel and Lucas Leiva, who arrived with big price tags but have failed to have a lasting impact.

    In five-and-a-half years, there has been a turnover of nearly 120 transfers at a net spend of over £85m. There has been too little progress since the Champions League success for that kind of outlay, and Wednesday night's home defeat by Reading left a once-great club floundering in deep distress.

    Only a remarkable run of victories will now relieve the pressure, and the Britannia Stadium, where Stoke will be in Liverpool's faces throughout, is not the best launch pad for a rescue mission.

    It is difficult to see how the club will keep faith with Benitez if the slump continues, despite the financial burden that a pay-off would bring.

    His defiant but baffling repetitive interview technique reminds me of the final press conferences of Gerard Houllier's reign when the Frenchman kept repeating a mantra about "turning corners".

    The mantra was hollow. He had reached the point that all managers eventually hit when obstacles mount ever higher and the physical and mental energy needed to clear them just isn't there any more; when players and supporters need a change; when the future of a football club becomes more important than any individual.

    Reading match winner Shane Long might have taken Benitez to that point and the end of a sad journey that began a year ago.

    Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


    Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

    #2
    More bollocks, im fed up with aguing this ill informed journalisam.
    Alonso wanted to leave, getting £30 mill for him was genius not a mistake, Hyypia wanted to leave, Rafa offered him an extension with coaching tied in but he wanted to play as much as possible and none of us should begrudge him that.
    Aquilani 'gave the ball away cheaply late on' he has been out for the best part of a year and was playing extra time, of course he was tired you usless bandwagon jumping piece of ****.
    The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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      #3
      Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
      More bollocks, im fed up with aguing this ill informed journalisam.
      Alonso wanted to leave, getting £30 mill for him was genius not a mistake, Hyypia wanted to leave, Rafa offered him an extension with coaching tied in but he wanted to play as much as possible and none of us should begrudge him that.
      Aquilani 'gave the ball away cheaply late on' he has been out for the best part of a year and was playing extra time, of course he was tired you usless bandwagon jumping piece of ****.
      What the **** does he know about managing a World renowned football club.

      So fed up of all these so called experts, pundits etc, we all know their job is to stimulate reaction, waste of time imo.

      Make your own mind up i say, take everthing into account and make your own mind up.

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        #4
        He's a commentator, and all of a sudden knows better than Rafa Benitez, and feels he is qualified to pick apart all these decisions with an air of authority? Fair enough he's entitled to his opinion, but the fact that he gets paid to spout this ****, and that the normal numpties will lap it up, greatly offends me.

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          #5
          More nonsense being spouted,while he might be right on one or two of the points, he's just trying to stick the boot in with a totally unresearched article
          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            #6
            Though if you have a look at his twitter he wished 'Rafa well' before the game on Saturday.

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              #7
              Jonathan Pearce is a cock-muncher.
              Oh I don't know.

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                #8
                The fat faced git should stick to Robot Wars, I can't stand the blokes voice, I have to turn the sound down when he is comentating on the game for MOTD.

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                  #9
                  i love how all these pundits come flying out of the woodwork when we have a bad run......

                  like when Perry Groves said that "after watching benitez's first 3 or 4 league games after he joined Liverpool I said that he would never win the league for Liverpool" - ohhh well done perry - let me guess though, you did predict that they'd win the Champions League???? Yeah right.....

                  Souness saying that Rafa has lost the plot - let's be perfectly honest here, Souness has some balls even punditing on ANY Liverpool game. I'd love to hear Richard Keys or Bill O'Herlihy introduce the guy with something like "and we are joined this evening by Graeme Souness - the man who single-handily regressed the biggest football club in the country to a mid-table team and sold his interview to the Sun newspaper in a blatent showing of greed, lack of compasion and just plain being a prick"

                  Lawro - has the balls to go on about defensive mistakes. Yes Lawro was a great defender for us - but to be honest, he's not a patch on legendary status as Carra, Hyypia or Hansen. Lawro is more like a Henchoz type of player - very good in his day but lucky to play with far better players around him. Also, Lawro did go into coaching breifly - helping Keegan at newcastle as a defensive coach. And he was a nightmare..... feckin eijet.

                  Whelan - questioning rafa benitez? Give me a break ronnie. The fat over-inflated dublin prick doesn't have a clue. If he did, then he would be a premier league manager himself by now. He did briefly manage in the greek league but did ****e over there.

                  Ray Houghton - how did your coaching career go Ray? Was it some kip like Crystal palace or reading or somewhere ****e like that? Not too well though did it?

                  Andy Gray - was ****e as aston villa assistant manager.

                  Ian St John - why didnt you ever do it ian - ya prick

                  Stan Collymore - what an insult. He has the neck to publically slate people like rafa. Imagine, a nutjob like stanley victor actually criticising people. I have heard him on the radio slate peoples personality too - for example Carragher with reference to his international retirement. This coming from a dogging, woman-beating, weirdo........and he's from the midlands!

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                  To be honest, the only people i rate as pundits are:

                  1 - Alan Hansen - often says something along the lines of "i didn't have the balls to take the job myself (i reckon he was no1 choice before souness - what a pity) so it's hard for me to critisise the manager" Plus Hansen gives a reasonable, well balanced view of things in general.

                  2 - Kenny - whenever he has been a guest - which is very rare - he seems to be spot on with his observations. He can relate to the pressure a LFC manager is under more than anyone.

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                    #10
                    what a waste of time even reading this malinformed ****e
                    3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                      More bollocks, im fed up with aguing this ill informed journalisam.
                      Alonso wanted to leave, getting £30 mill for him was genius not a mistake, Hyypia wanted to leave, Rafa offered him an extension with coaching tied in but he wanted to play as much as possible and none of us should begrudge him that.
                      Aquilani 'gave the ball away cheaply late on' he has been out for the best part of a year and was playing extra time, of course he was tired you usless bandwagon jumping piece of ****.
                      I stopped reading the moment he said that we'd made a profit on BOTH Crouch and Keane. Agenda being set here by Pearce, he should stick to eating pies

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                        #12
                        I've met him a couple of times.

                        He's a really nice fella.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
                          i love how all these pundits come flying out of the woodwork when we have a bad run......

                          like when Perry Groves said that "after watching benitez's first 3 or 4 league games after he joined Liverpool I said that he would never win the league for Liverpool" - ohhh well done perry - let me guess though, you did predict that they'd win the Champions League???? Yeah right.....

                          Souness saying that Rafa has lost the plot - let's be perfectly honest here, Souness has some balls even punditing on ANY Liverpool game. I'd love to hear Richard Keys or Bill O'Herlihy introduce the guy with something like "and we are joined this evening by Graeme Souness - the man who single-handily regressed the biggest football club in the country to a mid-table team and sold his interview to the Sun newspaper in a blatent showing of greed, lack of compasion and just plain being a prick"

                          Lawro - has the balls to go on about defensive mistakes. Yes Lawro was a great defender for us - but to be honest, he's not a patch on legendary status as Carra, Hyypia or Hansen. Lawro is more like a Henchoz type of player - very good in his day but lucky to play with far better players around him. Also, Lawro did go into coaching breifly - helping Keegan at newcastle as a defensive coach. And he was a nightmare..... feckin eijet.

                          Whelan - questioning rafa benitez? Give me a break ronnie. The fat over-inflated dublin prick doesn't have a clue. If he did, then he would be a premier league manager himself by now. He did briefly manage in the greek league but did ****e over there.

                          Ray Houghton - how did your coaching career go Ray? Was it some kip like Crystal palace or reading or somewhere ****e like that? Not too well though did it?

                          Andy Gray - was ****e as aston villa assistant manager.

                          Ian St John - why didnt you ever do it ian - ya prick

                          Stan Collymore - what an insult. He has the neck to publically slate people like rafa. Imagine, a nutjob like stanley victor actually criticising people. I have heard him on the radio slate peoples personality too - for example Carragher with reference to his international retirement. This coming from a dogging, woman-beating, weirdo........and he's from the midlands!

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                          Whelan managed in Cyprus aswell if my brain is working correctly ?

                          whelan is bitter because he was never considered a great and was never offered a role when he was trying to cut the grade as a coach/manager

                          i dont think Houghton has been too critical of us, no more than he has been of other teams, its just he's an ex player and you dont expect it

                          Whelan has his own personal agenda though

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                            #14
                            Whelan also managed Southend, briefly. I think he got them relegated before he got sacked.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              #15
                              Another load of bull****, I cant believ these guys get paid to write the same ****e as each other, laughable.

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