The Red Card

[badpiggy]

****in hell the more i see that pienaar one the worse it gets. i didn't notice it in real time at all - was just a bit of a blur to me. and as for fellaini he seriously went in to damage the greek. he saw the tackle coming - which is 100% studs up and 2-footed and a red - but instead of jumping out of the way he stamps right on the greeks leg. all good crack for fans to go absolutely ****in mental to though.


fellaini is a horrible cunt and he knows that the majority of the time he'll get away with ****
bring in some sort of video reffing - where managers can make a challenge to a decison and lose a substitution for example - and some sort of citing system afterwards.

[wildman]

[QUOTE=badpiggy;1524460]****in hell the more i see that pienaar one the worse it gets. i didn't notice it in real time at all - was just a bit of a blur to me. and as for fellaini he seriously went in to damage the greek. he saw the tackle coming - which is 100% studs up and 2-footed and a red - but instead of jumping out of the way he stamps right on the greeks leg. all good crack for fans to go absolutely ****in mental to though.


fellaini is a horrible cunt [QUOTE]

[rudedog]

Where was Gerrard in the MOTD reconstruction?

It wasn't a reconstruction, it was actual camera footage shot from directly behind and slightly above the ref. Gerrard was to the right of the ref who looked like he had a clear view of the challenge.

I can't find the footage online anywhere so I'll see if I can take a photo of it from the telly and upload it.

[sniffer]

He went in two footed with his studs up. It was a dangerous tackle and deserved a red. Fellaini should also have seen red as his stamp was as bad if not worse than Kyriagos' tackle.

Yep red was right as it was deemed a dangerous lunge, but Screech would of seen red if the refs view wasn't obscured

[rudedog]

here you go



looks like he had a clear view from that.

[Scratch]

here you go



looks like he had a clear view from that.

Dunno, that could be at the point where Pienarr's boot is at it's lowest...cos the ball is already up near Pienarr's midrift.

Also, watching the other angle, Carra i think it is doesn't react to the tackle at all??

[rudedog]

Dunno, that could be at the point where Pienarr's boot is at it's lowest...cos the ball is already up near Pienarr's midrift.

Also, watching the other angle, Carra i think it is doesn't react to the tackle at all??

not sure where you see the ball near Peinaar's midfrift? Like I already said, they froze the play at the point of impact, or very close to it.

At this point, the ball was still on the deck, you don't see the ball emerging until a few frames after this freeze frame. The ball was yellow making it pretty easy to spot

[BrianF80]

Someone said Carragher should have walked for his early tackle on Pienaar. I thought bull****.

And then saw this:

[Scratch]

not sure where you see the ball near Peinaar's midfrift? Like I already said, they froze the play at the point of impact, or very close to it.

At this point, the ball was still on the deck, you don't see the ball emerging until a few frames after this freeze frame. The ball was yellow making it pretty easy to spot

So what's that between Pienarr's body and his arm then?? Slightly yellower than the grass behind it with black pattern, not part of the Everton kit or part of Carragher as far as i can tell...looks like the ball to me?

[Scratch]

Someone said Carragher should have walked for his early tackle on Pienaar. I thought bull****.

And then saw this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2aaaa6p.jpg

Anyone got another pic of this, all i get is a red x here at work.

[tiktu]

Someone said Carragher should have walked for his early tackle on Pienaar. I thought bull****.

And then saw this:

From this angle seems that Pienaar tried to headbutt Carra's hand.

[rudedog]

So what's that between Pienarr's body and his arm then?? Slightly yellower than the grass behind it with black pattern, not part of the Everton kit or part of Carragher as far as i can tell...looks like the ball to me?

The ball was bright yellow and can't be seen in this frame because its behind Mascheranos lower leg - if you had actually seen the footage then this would be totaly obvious as it can clearly be seen in the frame directly before this one - it is nowhere near Pienaar's elbow or midrift so I really have no idea what you are seeing in the picture.

[rudedog]

Someone said Carragher should have walked for his early tackle on Pienaar. I thought bull****.

And then saw this:

looks bad from that angle

[Shaggy]

Someone said Carragher should have walked for his early tackle on Pienaar. I thought bull****.

And then saw this:

[Shaggy]

There's no such word as midrift!