Lets have a fight, get the anger out of our system...

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Mad Mick McCarthy

[tsb]

No. It was the same guy who bought Pennant and Keane for almost £30m. Or was that Rick Parry? I get confused. If they were good signings – it was Rafa. If they were poor signings - it was Rick. I think that’s how it works.

How we could do with the likes of Alonso. Now, was that Rick’s decision to sell him?

Nah, Rafa can do wrong. There's been good signings and bad ones and he's played a part in all of those.

It's just interesting how credit is given to Houllier when it's Rafa slagging time. Does anyone believe for a minute we'd have won in 05 if Houllier was in charge.

[Rich]

How's this for a fight then.

In the summer if no new investment is found sell Torres and Gerrard to free up resources to improve our general squad. We can't afford to employ world class players, so let's cut our cloth accordingly.

Discuss.

[anfieldanfield]

I would take Hodgson.

[Imy]

How's this for a fight then.

In the summer if no new investment is found sell Torres and Gerrard to free up resources to improve our general squad. We can't afford to employ world class players, so let's cut our cloth accordingly.

Discuss.

I'll bite, for £130m you could replace both the 'ageing' Gerrard and 'injury prone' Torres plus have money left over for more.

Eg
David Villa - £35m
Sergio Aguero - £35m
Frank Ribery - £40
Arda Turan - £15m

[Guest]

I'll bite, for £130m you could replace both the 'ageing' Gerrard and 'injury prone' Torres plus have money left over for more.

Eg
David Villa - £35m
Sergio Aguero - £35m
Frank Ribery - £40
Arda Turan - £15m

No, this money should be put towards building our new stadium, not squad rebuilding. We've got a good enough squad to challenge for the league next season, Aquilani will be even better, so too will be Maxi. Add to that list the young Ngog and the potentially world class Pacheco.

New stadium sorted and a team fit to challenge for the league.

[Exiled_red]

He is using him in the same way as he did last season, when he had his most fruitful season ever. Were you complaining then?

Gerrard is less effective in that role without Torres in front of him, and Alonso (or someone) dictating the game from behind him.

[fowler9]

give neil warnock the job one of the all time greats

[javier_monsterano]

mr ferguson.

[Tatterdemalion]

I like the look of that Benitez bloke. Has won titles abroad and several European trophies. He's also got a track record of doing well when working under tight financial constraints, which is where we find ourselves right now. Certainly looks like the kind of manager we could do with as no other manager would want to work within similar constraints as well as the ownership uncertainty surrounding the club. Unfortunately I don't think he'd be daft enough to take the job as he can't possibly win and would be under constant sniping and pressure

I just wish Benitez would be a bit more adventurous. Nothing wrong with winning games...

[Guest]

I just wish Benitez would be a bit more adventurous. Nothing wrong with winning games...

Italy won 3 world cups playing catenacio.

[Tatterdemalion]

So? go back far enough and plenty of teams won plenty of things playing 5 up front..

[Guest]

So? go back far enough and plenty of teams won plenty of things playing 5 up front..

Rafa doesn't play defensive football, that's a myth, a total and ridiculous myth. That same team scored more goals than any other team in the league last season, which destroys your argument.

We're not at our best, which explains our toothless kind of performances of late. Let's not have that argument anymore will you, it's just annoying to hear the same myth over and over again when it's been demystified so many times.

[Tatterdemalion]

Rafa doesn't play defensive football, that's a myth, a total and ridiculous myth. That same team scored more goals than any other team in the league last season, which destroys your argument.

We're not at our best, which explains our toothless kind of performances of late. Let's not have that argument anymore will you, it's just annoying to hear the same myth over and over again when it's been demystified so many times.

I didn't say he played defensive football did I? I said I wished he'd be more adventurous - not the same thing (and hardly an argument to be refuted!)

[Bender]

Rafa doesn't play defensive football, that's a myth, a total and ridiculous myth. That same team scored more goals than any other team in the league last season, which destroys your argument.

We're not at our best, which explains our toothless kind of performances of late. Let's not have that argument anymore will you, it's just annoying to hear the same myth over and over again when it's been demystified so many times.

were on about this season....why aren't we at our best the damn season is nearly over ......i'll tell you why the players are fed up playing for the manager hence the lack of passion and commitment....oh and while were at it can you tell me why the estemmed manager cannot get the players to pass and move or even simply pass a ball