Harry Redknapp can't count

[Craig_H]

Disagree with what, that we haven't outspent Spurs this season?
What you're saying is true but that isn't what Redknapp said at all.

Spurs have spent £150 in the past 20 months, thats second only to Man City and certainly much more than us.

So if pressure to finish 4th is relevant to money spent, as according to Harry himself, then surely its more than a little bit absurd of him to say that the onus is on us rather than them.

£150m net spend in the last 20 months?

[Exiled_red]

£150m net spend in the last 20 months?

£150m gross about £60-70m net (Sales of Keane and Berbatov raised ~£50m plus a few others)

[Craig_H]

Paints a slightly different picture then.

[fah-q]

For comparisons sake, what is our net spend in the last 20 months?

[Exiled_red]

For comparisons sake, what is our net spend in the last 20 months?

Zero, give or take a little

[Craig_H]

And how about before then?

You cant really use a selective time period for this

[fah-q]

How long has he been in charge?

[Vermilion]

You can talk of relative spending etc, but would you swap our squad for their's?

I wouldnt. We have a better overall squad IMO and yet, they're above us.

Redknapp cant be that much of a donkey, as some seem to be claiming.

One season.. Lets see Arry take Spurs into the Champions league season in season out almost, and while in that league...actually put up a challenge to win the thing..maybe even win it, and while doing that, it go's without syaing he'd need to keep Spurs in the top 4 of the Prem most seasons, then, when he's done that...we can talk about him in the same sentence as Rafa, we'll forgive him having not won any Spanish Titles as he's not managed there.

[Craig_H]

That's the funny thing mate, i was talking about this season, cos it's the current season.

[Vermilion]

That's the funny thing mate, i was talking about this season, cos it's the current season.

Er i know, that's why i started with "One Season". And my view still stands, that one season finishing ahead of LFC means nothing, (unless we were 2nd), as far as judging a manager go's, lets see him manage a side with some expectancy, see how he does long term with Spurs.

Same go's for O'neil at Villa, it's one thing making the top 4, staying there while trying to realistically win the Champs league is another thing.

[Mark79]

The pressure IS more on us as we are servicing a massive debt and could be ****ed without CL money. Spurs aren't in such a precarious position as us.

You appear to have completely missed or ignored what I said.

Just to be clear, I’m refering to the article about Redknapp at the start of this thread, entitled ‘Redknapp: More pressure on Liverpool & City because of what they spent’ In other words, the topic of this thread.

I’m not disagreeing with what you are saying about our debt and need for CL money. I am referring solely to what Redknapp claims in this article i.e. Liverpool are under more pressure than Spurs because they have spent more. In case you haven’t read it, he makes absolutely no reference to Liverpool’s debt, need for CL qualification, history or level of expection of the club. So I am not disagreeing with any of this in questioning Redknapp.

What I am saying is that Redknapps comments just a little bit rich considering that he has been outspending us in recent transfer windows.

Just to recap once again because I really hope it sinks in this time: I am talking purely about Redknapp’s comments about spending and am absolutely not under any misunderstanding about how important Champion’s League qualification is to Liverpool.

[Mark79]

And how about before then?

You cant really use a selective time period for this

Ok so I’m probably guilty for being a teensy bit selective about the time period.

But to be fair, its effectively 2 years seeing as the window doesnt open again until June. Thats 4 transfer windows and more or less the same period that Harry, who has done the majority of that spending, has been in charge. So its a significant enough amount of time.

In my defence, I could argue that Redknapp has also been selective about time periods, being that we must have to go back 2-3 years to when we were outspending them.

[Craig_H]

You appear to have completely missed or ignored what I said.

Just to be clear, I’m refering to the article about Redknapp at the start of this thread, entitled ‘Redknapp: More pressure on Liverpool & City because of what they spent’ In other words, the topic of this thread.

I’m not disagreeing with what you are saying about our debt and need for CL money. I am referring solely to what Redknapp claims in this article i.e. Liverpool are under more pressure than Spurs because they have spent more. In case you haven’t read it, he makes absolutely no reference to Liverpool’s debt, need for CL qualification, history or level of expection of the club. So I am not disagreeing with any of this in questioning Redknapp.

What I am saying is that Redknapps comments just a little bit rich considering that he has been outspending us in recent transfer windows.

Just to recap once again because I really hope it sinks in this time: I am talking purely about Redknapp’s comments about spending and am absolutely not under any misunderstanding about how important Champion’s League qualification is to Liverpool.

Except, it is now fairly clear that this is not what he was saying.

The 'spent more' bit was in relation to City.

[Armchairkopite]

Er i know, that's why i started with "One Season". And my view still stands, that one season finishing ahead of LFC means nothing, (unless we were 2nd), as far as judging a manager go's, lets see him manage a side with some expectancy, see how he does long term with Spurs.

Same go's for O'neil at Villa, it's one thing making the top 4, staying there while trying to realistically win the Champs league is another thing.