We need another 4 or 5 top class players - Torres.

[SimonNo7]

Interesting comments. For the first time yet there is a hint that Torres will move on if investment doesn't come. I can still see him here next season regardless, but if City do get 4th and strengthen their top 4 status with the purchases only CL football and deep pockets can attract he'll be long gone the season after.

I can see all that happening and you couldn't blame him if he did.

[SimonNo7]

Could you blame him? I couldnt, Players like torres dont come around very often, he deserves to play for a club with real ambition.

[SimonNo7]

I wouldn't blame him in the slightest. We knew what the score was, he left Atletico because they could not compete and he'll leave us too.

God a lot of 'ing going on here.

[red g]

God a lot of 'ing going on here.

[SimonNo7]

it must mean that there's quite a bit of sense being typed

[fred_plasticine]

he's right we need new quality players. they need to make an effort to prove that this club's ambitious and still wants to win the ****ing league not being also-rans.
they mood around the club, the dire straits we're in, the ****ing boring, lacklustre games we're forced to watch, the same old dull excuses we're forced to hear and read - all that ****'s got to change. something's gotta give.
we need a fresh start to enjoy ourselves again as a club. the players should enjoy their football again and we should enjoy watching them.

[TheElephantMan]

the players should enjoy their football again and we should enjoy watching them.

I think Rafa has forgotten that football is supposed to be entertainment.

[SimonNo7]

I think Rafa has forgotten that football is supposed to be entertainment.

I always thought football was about winning, certainly used to be before the circus that is Sky Sports.

[TheElephantMan]

I always thought football was about winning, certainly used to be before the circus that is Sky Sports.

Not just about winning. Of course we'd all much rather win than not, but supporters pay to be entertained.

[fred_plasticine]

I think Rafa has forgotten that football is supposed to be entertainment.

**** entertainment, mate. i'm talking about self-respect. i'm talking about ****ing having a real good go at teams. we make average teams look good. we let them play and hope to survive and somehow nick a goal. but we're bigger than that and we're better than that. but neither the manager nor the players, nor the circus upstairs seem to believe that. and it's ****ing doing my head in at the moment.

[SimonNo7]

Not just about winning. Of course we'd all much rather win than not, but supporters pay to be entertained.

I've always said that winning comes first. I don't care whether we win every game with a last minute flukey deflection off an opposition players back as long as we win and get 3 points.

Entertainment can come once the winning mentality and trophies have!

[Craig_H]

I always thought football was about winning, certainly used to be before the circus that is Sky Sports.

Yeah it is. Rafa has forgotten how to make us win.

[SimonNo7]

Yeah it is. Rafa has forgotten how to make us win.

Some football fans and certainly Sky seem to think the Premiership is the UK's version of WWE

[Craig_H]

Each to their own really, if people prefer exciting football over winning, it's upto them, i've no qualms with it. Personally, i find winning entertaining enough.

[SimonNo7]

Each to their own really, if people prefer exciting football over winning, it's upto them, i've no qualms with it. Personally, i find winning entertaining enough.

Absoeffinglutely!!!