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    #31
    back again for another pasting.
    i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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      #32
      he'll never make it at lfc IMO. but it's still good thing to send him to loan.

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        #33
        Getting a start today - Leicester are 1-0 at the minute to Cardiff.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          #34
          hope we get a good price for him in the summer.

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            #35
            Originally posted by PTP View Post
            if this is correct - here is a list of players sent out on loan over the last few years

            PLAYERS ON LOAN
            Jay Spearing Leicester March 22. Rest of the season
            Robbie Threlfall Bradford March 22. Rest of the season
            David Martin Derby March 12. One month
            Stephen Darby Swindon March 11. Rest of the season
            Robbie Threlfall Bradford February 22. One month
            David Martin Leeds January 31. Until February 10.
            Dean Bouzanis Accrington Stanley January 31. Until May 30.
            Nathan Eccleston Huddersfield January 28. Rest of the season
            Dean Bouzanis Accrington Stanley January 2. Until January 30.
            2009
            David Martin Leeds December 28. One month
            David Martin Leeds November 26. Until December 28.
            Dean Bouzanis Accrington Stanley November 26. Until January 2. 10
            David Martin Tranmere Rovers October 16. One month
            Charles Itandje Kavala FC August 31. Season 09-10
            Andras Simon Cordoba CF August 25. Season 09-10
            Krisztian Nemeth AEK Athens August 25. Season 09-10
            Robbie Threlfall Northampton August 21. One month
            San Jose Athletico Bilbao August Season 09-10
            Ryan Flynn Falkirk July Season 09-10
            Martin Kelly Huddersfield March 26. Rest of the season
            Astrit Ajdarevic Leicester March 26. Rest of the season
            Godwin Antwi Hereford February 16. One month
            Peter Gulacsi Hereford February 2. One month
            Ryan Flynn Wrexham February 2. Until April 26.
            Adam Hammill Blackpool February 2. Three months
            Craig Lindfield Accrington Stanley January 26. Rest of the season
            Krisztian Nemeth Blackpool January 26. One month
            Jordy Brouwer RKC Waalwijk January Rets of the season
            Jermaine Pennant Portsmouth January Rets of the season
            Robbie Threlfall Stockport January One month
            2008
            Andriy Voronin Hertha Berlin August Season 08-09
            Craig Lindfield Bournemouth August Until December 08
            Miki Roque FC Cartagena August Season 08-09
            Sebastien Leto Olympiacos August Season 08-09
            David Martin Leicester August Six months
            Charlie Barnett Tranmere July Season 08-09
            Jack Hobbs Leicester July Season 08-09
            Godwin Antwi Tranmere July Until January 09
            Adam Hammill Blackpool July Six months
            Robbie Threlfall Hereford July Until January 09
            Paul Anderson Nottingham Forest June Season 08-09
            Jack Hobbs Scunthorpe January Rest of the season
            Craig Lindfield Chester January 20. One month
            Robbie Threlfall Hereford January Rest of the season
            Seems to me that the youth academy is a money maker rather than a next liverpool star maker.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Kinell View Post
              Seems to me that the youth academy is a money maker rather than a next liverpool star maker.
              Which is exactly how it should be, it isn't an exact science, you buy or bring in a number of young players, develop them in line with the 1st teams beliefs and the vast majority will fall by the way side and be out of football within 3 years of leaving, some go on to have a career in semi pro or professional football and even less than that come through to the 1st team.

              1 in a million turns out to be a Gerrard, Fowler or Owen - we were just lucky they came through at a similar time.

              Chelsea haven't produced anyone since Terry.
              Man U have Gibson and Evans since Fergie inherited his 'fledgings' as youth players.
              Arsenal have really only produced Gibbs (Fabregas, Merida, Clichy, Ramsey etc... were all bought from other clubs) Wiltshire looks a good player though.
              Man City have produced Johnson, Sturridge (Richards was bought from Oldham)
              The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                Which is exactly how it should be, it isn't an exact science, you buy or bring in a number of young players, develop them in line with the 1st teams beliefs and the vast majority will fall by the way side and be out of football within 3 years of leaving, some go on to have a career in semi pro or professional football and even less than that come through to the 1st team.

                1 in a million turns out to be a Gerrard, Fowler or Owen - we were just lucky they came through at a similar time.

                Chelsea haven't produced anyone since Terry.
                Man U have Gibson and Evans since Fergie inherited his 'fledgings' as youth players.
                Arsenal have really only produced Gibbs (Fabregas, Merida, Clichy, Ramsey etc... were all bought from other clubs) Wiltshire looks a good player though.
                Man City have produced Johnson, Sturridge (Richards was bought from Oldham)
                I'm not sure it is fair to discount the players that are bought in entirely - it depends on age and the stage of development when they were bought I would have thought. For example if the players we have bought in at the under 16-18 age range make it then it is fair to say that they were developed strongly at the club and really it is only a case of whether someone else scouted them first or not.

                Other than that I agree with the thrust of your argument.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by dww View Post
                  I'm not sure it is fair to discount the players that are bought in entirely - it depends on age and the stage of development when they were bought I would have thought. For example if the players we have bought in at the under 16-18 age range make it then it is fair to say that they were developed strongly at the club and really it is only a case of whether someone else scouted them first or not.

                  Other than that I agree with the thrust of your argument.
                  aye for example us and pacheco? Insua? etc -
                  i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PTP View Post
                    aye for example us and pacheco? Insua? etc -
                    Exactly.
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      #40
                      in fact thinking of it........the majority of our youth are 'signed' from other clubs....even the english lads.

                      from the long list of loaned players above, and in the last 4 or 5 years - at the moment i can only see players like darby, spearing, Linfield, threfall, kelly - who haven't been signed from elsewhere
                      i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                        #41
                        Some comments lifted from player ratings threads (from two games - 4-0 win v QPR and 2-1 defeat to Cardiff) on a Leicester City forum...

                        QPR:

                        Spearing 7. I didn't think he was any improvement on Oakley
                        Spearing 7. Terrier like performance. nothing noticed but did a lot of tidying up.
                        Spearing 7
                        Spearing - 7 - Didn't see to much of him today, seemed to chase the ball well, won back what he lost.
                        Spearing 8 - so much better then Oakley
                        Spearing 6.5 - Not great on the ball admittedly, but ran his socks off to win it back at times. Everywhere in midfield today.
                        Spearing 7. ****.
                        Spearing -6- No lack of effort but I think he struggled with is position at times. Didn't seem to know where he was playing
                        Spearing 7 - A breath of fresh air. Just that extra bit of energy and bite we seem to have been lacking.
                        Spearing - 6
                        Spearing - 6.5
                        Spearing-7 some good touches, but a bit slow around the park maybe??
                        Spearing 7 - An improvement to Oakley
                        Spearing 7 - Disagree that he wasn't an improvement on Oakley, he looks like he could be a really good player, was competitive, some good passing, but struggled when we couldn't keep the ball in the first half. Met him after, his breath stinks.
                        Spearing 7
                        Spearing 7 - Thought he did ok, some nice touches, worked hard (one particularly lung-bursting run into the box in the second half). Better than Oakley.
                        Spearing 8 - Much improved on Oakley. Chased the ball and played some nice passes in and around the midfield.
                        Spearings 8
                        Spearing 7.5
                        Cant believe people on here saying Spearing no better than Oakley, ive spent all afternoon listening to a bunch of morons in SK2 moaning on about him too. I thought he chased and won the ball back well and gave wellens and king more time. I am gunna have to move to L1 or somewhere else before I kill someone or if its like that everywhere just stay away.


                        Cardiff:


                        Spearing - 5. Gave the ball away too much, but will reserve judgment of his ability after seeing him play more.
                        Spearing 6 - Totally unimpressed so far, but give him a go
                        Spearing - 6 Much better in the second half and can see something in the guy.
                        Spearing 7
                        Can never be fvcked to do the whole thing but gotta disagree with some of the ratings for N'guessan, thought he did alright. Yeah, he made some mistakes and failed to beat his man a couple of times but caused them as many problems as anyone else first half imo, was genuinely suprised to see him go off. To give him a 2 is a ****ing joke, definitely put in a better shift than Spearing first half.
                        Spearing looked fairly lively I thought. Seemed to get into some good positions and was fairly tidy on the ball. Just lacked that final ball.
                        Spearing - 7.5 - Thought he was very good, worked hard and linked the midfield and front line very well
                        Spearing - he's **** isn't he.
                        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                          #42
                          Some good +ve feed back on Spearing.
                          Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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                            #43
                            who gave him a 7 and called him **** in the same post? what's that about?
                            dave of mutilation

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
                              who gave him a 7 and called him **** in the same post? what's that about?
                              He was marking it out of 100

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                                He was marking it out of 100

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