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not all of courseOriginally posted by PC Plod View PostIt's not a 180 for most of us mate.
but I see some posters that have slated rafa for the past few months calling for him to go changing because of yesterday, which I find a bit weird as it has nothing to do with the results and sporting side of things.
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I would say it is a disaster, a club of our stature and ambitions not to be in Europe.Originally posted by PeteBest View PostHardly a disaster. It will give us time to regroup and we won't have the distraction of playing in a major competition. Our squad seems to be too weak for that, unless some players can step up to the plate.
Perhaps our squad is to weak for playing in more competitions, but that is just admitting we have failed even more in our squad building over the last few years, a big club should be able to compete in 2-3 competitions come april.
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Originally posted by Darkon View Postnot all of course
but I see some posters that have slated rafa for the past few months calling for him to go changing because of yesterday, which I find a bit weird as it has nothing to do with the results and sporting side of things.
Like who?Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Maybe it has to with Anger, anger i feel has seen a lot of fans turn against Rafa without imo taking everthing into consideration, embarrassment when among rival fans, takin stick, it's allowed the red mist to decsend and skewed their judgement.Originally posted by Darkon View Postnot all of course
but I see some posters that have slated rafa for the past few months calling for him to go changing because of yesterday, which I find a bit weird as it has nothing to do with the results and sporting side of things.
Seeing Rafa there yesterday, doing what he does for LFC, and the passion and love for the club he has, imo has lifted the mist from SOME of those Rafa bashers, and a calm realism now prevails.
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sorry don't have the time needed to go through the archive looking for posts, but I am certain that if you look through the match/post match threads.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostIf you can find me the posts where I've "slated Rafa" that would be great.
Also - where did I say I'd changed my mind about anything?
All I did was make a point. 
Sorry if it wasn't the point of your post, might have misread it, but it just seemed like a change of mind due to his behaviour in one ceremony.
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Nah. Just making a point that many fans would do well to remember.Originally posted by Darkon View Postsorry don't have the time needed to go through the archive looking for posts, but I am certain that if you look through the match/post match threads.
Sorry if it wasn't the point of your post, might have misread it, but it just seemed like a change of mind due to his behaviour in one ceremony.
I've had two low moments, two moments of total despair in isolation and in the immediate aftermath of two grim defeats (can't remember which, there's been too many). Most people obsessed with the notion of strictly having to be in either one camp or the other always lump me in the RCDNW category, so your post is surprising and unusual. And inaccurate.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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I am fully for the possibility of changing minds if it's grounded in the football side of the club, and of course there should be room for it. Personally I had all the faith in Rafa at the end of last season, but it has slowly eroded with me during this season.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostNah. Just making a point that many fans would do well to remember.
I've had two low moments, two moments of total despair in isolation and in the immediate aftermath of two grim defeats (can't remember which, there's been too many). Most people obsessed with the notion of strictly having to be in either one camp or the other always lump me in the RCDNW category, so your post is surprising and unusual. And inaccurate.
I just had the overall impression that you had enough of Rafa, and found your post a bit odd due to that.
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If this has anything to do with the Yanks selling us then it is without doubt THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THIS SEASON.Originally posted by Darkon View Post
Weird so many people making a 180 because of a memorial service, it still brings rafa no closer to getting us where we need to be. I have all the sympathy for the guy, genuinly a nice bloke but I have no faith left in him to take us forward from here on - there is even a good chance we won't be in europe at all next season
Sell up, move on and get going again under new leadership. It may well not be in place for next season but the season after. but it will happen and we have to be patient.
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