Rafa: We were never going to win the title

[Armchairkopite]

**** thread, its fuunny to see the Rafa haters stick up for Bender though lol.

[CJ]

because you either want to back the guy or you don't. its a fairly simple argument really. too many people hedge their bets and end up with splinters in their arses these days.

not true. i want to back the man but he has made lots of mistakes.

the reality of life is generally more complicated than its either this or that.

[Armchairkopite]

not true. i want to back the man but he has made lots of mistakes.

the reality of life is generally more complicated than its either this or that.

Absolutley, yet its the fans that back Rafa are tagged with the 'Rafa can do no wrong' label although we openly state that he has made mistakes this season. I dont think there is one Rafa supporter that would keep him on if he failed again next season.

[Bender]

You've mistaken annoyance with Rafa bashing for blind an unconditional support of the man. I don't necessarily agree with all his decisions, but I won't blame him solely for this seasons failure (I think lack of financial backing and injuries have played a massive part) and I definitely won't go out of my way to slate him, which is what you seem to always be doing.

I hope you can see the distinction here.

yes yes i can as i am wearing Rafa tinted specs ....thank you for showing me the light

[BobTheCharmer]

Absolutley, yet its the fans that back Rafa are tagged with the 'Rafa can do no wrong' label although we openly state that he has made mistakes this season. I dont think there is one Rafa supporter that would keep him on if he failed again next season.

there's making genuine mistakes and there's being pig headed stubborn.

A mistake might be playing a player when not 100%, deciding not to purchase a particular player or by getting the tactics wrong for a particular game.

Being stubborn is continuing to play defensively against inferior opposition, playing the same system game in game out regardless of players available to fit said system or by playing your favourite players game in whether they are in form or not and ignoring other options.

Thats why for me he has no backing whatsoever from me. He won't change his methods. Regardless of money, luck or anything else he'll still write down note after note on his pad for a home game against Havent & Waterlooville, he'll still play Dirk Kuyt, he'll still treat every opponent as barcelona etc etc.

Mistakes aren't a problem for me, everybody makes them.

[banditos]

Nice one Bender. Didn't see that response coming. Its like talking to a Jehova's Witness.

One thing I do wonder about these Rafa bashers, is what they're trying to achieve, if indeed they are trying to achieve anything other than having a moan.

"Supporting" my club's manager despite his flaws is something I feel a duty to do, as I dont see slating him achieves anything other than possibly destabilising the club. For example, I bloody love it whenever I hear a manc having a dig at the wisky-nosed cunt, which does happen a bit despite his managerial record.

[5europeancups]

**** thread, its fuunny to see the Rafa haters stick up for Bender though lol.

Not as funny as seeing "Rafa Lovers" ganging up on a "Rafa hater"

[Reece]

Come on guys please, it's this whole taking sides thing that is so boring at the moment. Please can we try and give it a rest for a bit

[Neil Young]

[CJ]

yes yes i can as i am wearing Rafa tinted specs ....thank you for showing me the light

that doesnt answer anything does it?

[Bender]

well i'm off to work and i shall bid you all a good evening

[elrichio86]

because you either want to back the guy or you don't. its a fairly simple argument really. too many people hedge their bets and end up with splinters in their arses these days.

Its this sort of comment that makes reading anything in the footy forums tedious at the moment. Every thread ends up as a straight argument between the Rafa-haters and the Rafa-lovers (err...).I just wish BOTH sides would give it a rest, at least until the end of the season.

[Gerrard]

what a bender

[Shanks]

lol

Did you really laugh out loud when you read/typed that?

I don't think we have Rafa HATERS but we do have fans who are fed up with mediocre results and excuses.

[Woobus]

Another load of crap, I sometimes wondering why I dont visit football forums that much now a days and then I come across crap like this and it all becomes clear.