Hicks will back Benitez in transfer market

[truefan999]

Thats a nasty lisp

[Craig_H]

Rubbish!

Kuyt is awful going forward, and cant shoot straight. Maxi is very average, and Riera had a few decent games out of how many, but was never better than Benayoun.

And how have we got 4 good central midfielders???? We have two excellent, and one average and one poor.

By your logic, if everyone is that good, then we would have finished higher than 7th in the league. You cant seem to identify the weaknesses of the team, regardless of what you think of Rafa.

You dont need millions to sign good players, and Rafa has spent a lot over the past two years, and spent it poorly, regardless of how much income he generated.

Mattshark never ever sees anything about the players or manager in a negative light. Everyone's brilliant and the manager's always spot on.

Over optimistic or glass half full, i dont know.

[Mattshark]

Rubbish!

Kuyt is awful going forward, and cant shoot straight. Maxi is very average, and Riera had a few decent games out of how many, but was never better than Benayoun.

And how have we got 4 good central midfielders???? We have two excellent, and one average and one poor.

By your logic, if everyone is that good, then we would have finished higher than 7th in the league. You cant seem to identify the weaknesses of the team, regardless of what you think of Rafa.

You dont need millions to sign good players, and Rafa has spent a lot over the past two years, and spent it poorly, regardless of how much income he generated.

So why why was Kuyt our second top scorer in the league and outside of Ronaldo the top wide player the season before? Maxi was excellent for the last 2 months of the season, after settling in to a new league and all, but hey, don't let thinking get in the way.

Not at all, Riera made a massive difference to us on the left and gave us so much more balance and made us a better side, Benni is a very good player, but he has never had the effect Riera did for the team as a whole.

Well on last seasons form Gerrard was the poor one, both Lucas and Mascherano were excellent and I can only presume Aquilani was average, but since he has hardly played making such a judgement is silly.


I think we should have finished higher than 7th, but you are simply jumping to ridiculous and unjustifiable conclusions and are putting words into my mouth with the **** you have wrote here. And I very can. We need left back cover and we need better players on the left wing as well as more goal threat and that would require Gerrard playing a hell of a lot better this season.

Actually evidence is very much to the contrary, the more you spend the more successful you are likely to be and the league shows that. We had a net spend of 0 and it showed and we have had a declining funds over the last two seasons and we are having to sell to buy, but don't let you dislike of Rafa get in the way of things like, i dunno, thinking and not spouting tabloidesque nonsense.

[Mattshark]

Mattshark never ever sees anything about the players or manager in a negative light. Everyone's brilliant and the manager's always spot on.

Over optimistic or glass half full, i dont know.

**** off you ****, I pointed ****ing issue but clearly looking at that bit was beyond you.

[Armchairkopite]

At least the media are shifting their attentions more towards the owners trather then Rafa, I'll take that at the moment.

[Craig_H]

**** off you ****, I pointed ****ing issue but clearly looking at that bit was beyond you.

Touched a nerve eh?

You and fredo are both blindly hyper-optimistic, in that there's never anything wrong with any Liverpool player or manager.

Just how i see it. It's entirely your perogative to be that way, or disagree with it, as it is mine to hold that opinion.

[The Birdman]

Under football rules all football creditors MUST be repaid in full, so these clubs fall outside of the CVA, so you're wrong about that for a start.

Plus the fee for Aquilani is €20m - the vast majority of transfer fees are spread over the contract length, it's not as if we class Xabi Alonso as a £6m player when he joined us - even though our first payment to Sociedad was something in that region. He was a £10.5m player. We're committed to paying the full €20m.

So then why were the likes of Spurs etc... named in the list of creditors that got released?
It doesn't matter what rules you quote if they don't have the money then they can't pay anyone it can they?
All I said was we paid £5m up front for Aquilani, I'm not commenting on his worth, the question was 'didn't we pay over £20m for Johnson and Aquilani?' the answer is no we didn't because we paid £5m upfront for Aquilani and whatever Portsmouth owed us for Crouch was knocked off the Johnson fee.

If we have success over the length of Aquilani's contract then he'll be a £20m player because that is what he is valued at if we trigger the payments so that is what we have paid for him.

[Mattshark]

Touched a nerve eh?

You and fredo are both blindly hyper-optimistic, in that there's never anything wrong with any Liverpool player or manager.

Just how i see it. It's entirely your perogative to be that way, or disagree with it, as it is mine to hold that opinion.

See you are just an ignorant little **** who clearly never read my post, now I say again it in list form so your little brain can take it all in:

I think think central midfield and right wing are not our weak points.

I think desperately need to get better players on the left of mid and defence.

We need more goal scoring options.

That we have had to sell to buy.

[Craig_H]

Alright then matt.

[banditos]

I agree with you Matt.

BTW Craig, overly optimistic people are much better company/conversation than overly pessimistic people who call themselves realists.

[johnly]

In which case we'd have only received £1.6m of the £8m they still owed us.
Making Johnson a baragin at £10.6m.

slight deviation off the main topic, but I think the Premier League have said that money owed to clubs in the Prem must be paid in full. I may be wrong though, but I'm sure I heard that. Premiership clubs will be preferential creditors

[Fierce]

You two gay boys can continue you love in some other time.

How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Its simple, our central midfield was weak this season and the fact that we finished a mamoth 23 points behind last seasons total suggests that the loss of alonso was huge to our midfield. We didnt dominate games, we didnt control possesion of the ball.

yes, ive heard the bull**** argument about gerrard not being at his best but you can say that part of that was down to alonso not being in the side and the service into gerrard was really poor at the start of the season.

Aquilani isnt strong enough to play centrally and rafa should either move gerrard back (which he didnt for the majority of last season) and put aquilani into his position in behind torres.

Unless rafa moves gerrard back into the centre, our midfield will continue to be a weakness in our side.

If we go into the new season with the midfield pair of lucas and mascherano then exactly the same will happen again. We wont be anywhere near the top 4.

Yes, our midfield was weak. Yes, we miss Alonso. You come up with this all by yourself?
You do realise that Aquilani was bought to play in a similar position to Alonso don't you? And that he wasn't fully fit for 2/3 of the season?

I didn't mention anything about Gerrard not being at his best.

Unless I've missed something, your entire reasoning hinges on Alonso going and no suitable replacement found. Goggle eyed gypo he may well be, but why don't you give him a chance eh?

I appreciate that you probably know a ****load more than Rafa or our professional scouting network, but give them the benefit of the doubt, at least for a season

[pondus]

I guess substantial backing according to Hicks means two or three contract renewals this summer. Not optimistic at all, he's proved to be a lying cunt before

[Red_Polo]

How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Not old enough for you. Perv.

[TartanTerror]

So why why was Kuyt our second top scorer in the league and outside of Ronaldo the top wide player the season before? Maxi was excellent for the last 2 months of the season, after settling in to a new league and all, but hey, don't let thinking get in the way.

Not at all, Riera made a massive difference to us on the left and gave us so much more balance and made us a better side, Benni is a very good player, but he has never had the effect Riera did for the team as a whole.

Well on last seasons form Gerrard was the poor one, both Lucas and Mascherano were excellent and I can only presume Aquilani was average, but since he has hardly played making such a judgement is silly.


I think we should have finished higher than 7th, but you are simply jumping to ridiculous and unjustifiable conclusions and are putting words into my mouth with the **** you have wrote here. And I very can. We need left back cover and we need better players on the left wing as well as more goal threat and that would require Gerrard playing a hell of a lot better this season.

Actually evidence is very much to the contrary, the more you spend the more successful you are likely to be and the league shows that. We had a net spend of 0 and it showed and we have had a declining funds over the last two seasons and we are having to sell to buy, but don't let you dislike of Rafa get in the way of things like, i dunno, thinking and not spouting tabloidesque nonsense.

Players tend to be evaluated in a vacuum, which never fails to amaze me. The team as a whole were rubbish. Kuyt's "failures" as a RW cum forward were indicative of the lack of coherent team play. The whole squad share responsibility in that. Not saying Kuyt could not have performed certain responsibilities better but he was hardly alone.