Reality

[red g]

Or the length of Roy's contract is nothing to do with the sale of the club, and merely us meeting Roy's demands in regards to his wanting some form of job security....ie, him saying you may be sold and i may be fired, so i'd like a little bit of security should i find myself jobless in 6 months time.

and thats fair enough, i mean if someone comes in and is stupid enough to buy at the current asking price......buying our woys contract will be mere chicken feed!!

[chavo]

3 yrs makes perfect sense.
if new owners want a steady hand during the transition, roys a sensible option.

what do you suggest? a 1 yr contract? what kind of manager worth his salt would even consider that?

so on the contrary, i think 3 yr contract means we are definitely being set up for a sale and roy is a realistic and sensible choice.

Steady handover.... lets look at the history of the man.

The last time he held a managerial position for longer than 3 years was in 1985.
The last time he had a win % of more than 50% was in 2000 (10 years ago!)

mid table managerial record for a mid table manager. the stats are the stats, they tell the truth.

I just want to add, i hope, i prey i am am wrong if he is sucsessful then i will be over the moon. but i just cant see it. Dalglish, 12 month caretaker manager with sammy lee as no 2 whilst we look for a more perm appointment, if in 12 months it works out extend if not then nothing is lost.

[Paul12]

Good thread

No bad thread because making fun of someone's disability or impediment is the lowest of the low. Grow up.

[dww]

Or the length of Roy's contract is nothing to do with the sale of the club, and merely us meeting Roy's demands in regards to his wanting some form of job security....ie, him saying you may be sold and i may be fired, so i'd like a little bit of security should i find myself jobless in 6 months time.

In our current situation everything has to be seen in the light of a possible sale. We are technically up for sale. The question is whether decisions taken in that light are for the good of the club.

I'm completely unsure about it in this case. A long contract is traditionally what we give managers as a sign of support and in many ways that is a good thing. In the current context though we have to accept that the ownership situation might change and a pay off in the short to medium term is more likely than usual. As far as I understand it the longer the contract the bigger the financial burden should that occur.

All that said it is far from the biggest problem the club faces so whatever is more or less fine with me.

[dww]

No bad thread because making fun of someone's disability or impediment is the lowest of the low. Grow up.

I suspect you missed a level of sarcasm in Operations post.

[BrooklynRed]

In our current situation everything has to be seen in the light of a possible sale. We are technically up for sale. The question is whether decisions taken in that light are for the good of the club.

I'm completely unsure about it in this case. A long contract is traditionally what we give managers as a sign of support and in many ways that is a good thing. In the current context though we have to accept that the ownership situation might change and a pay off in the short to medium term is more likely than usual. As far as I understand it the longer the contract the bigger the financial burden should that occur.

All that said it is far from the biggest problem the club faces so whatever is more or less fine with me.

Agree, but I am sure he would walk for less than the remainder of his contract should new owners wish to get rid; Rafa did. If someone can afford LFC, they can afford a termination agreement. I don't see it as being in the way. I am coming around on Roy-- Purslow has done what he has done and we'll see whose interest it is in at the end of the day; hopefully he'll pay for it.

[Vermilion]

Agree, but I am sure he would walk for less than the remainder of his contract should new owners wish to get rid; Rafa did. If someone can afford LFC, they can afford a termination agreement. I don't see it as being in the way. I am coming around on Roy-- Purslow has done what he has done and we'll see whose interest it is in at the end of the day.

No it's not in the way, but what have they told Hodgson that makes him feel he'll get a good crack at this job, obviously he has'nt been told a take over is imminent.

It's the feeling that this appointment says the club won't be getting sold any time soon, and that's hard to take, and by any time soon...i mean certainly not this season...maybe even not next.

[BrooklynRed]

No it's not in the way, but what have they told Hodgson that makes him feel he'll get a good crack at this job, obviously he has'nt been told a take over is imminent.

It's the feeling that this appointment says the club won't be getting sold any time soon, and that's hard to take, and by any time soon...i mean certainly not this season...maybe even not next.

I'm not so sure and I hope you're wrong. Hicks is under tremendous pressure to sell his sports assets here in the USA and I think this is part of the same business process here; he won't say it, but I think he needs the liquidity. I don't seem them holding onto this club forever hoping a fictional price is met. He is in full-on contraction mode, and I think anything to get out from under the weight of LFC, given that the banks won't wait forever, as well as the Rangers and Stars-- it's all coming to a head for him. He's spinning the **** out of it to preserve his ego, but his failure at sports investment is clear for the world to see.

I know a million businesses that carry on with the original plan despite the efforts of executives to cash in and sell the company; nothing new. Not only that, the Chairman is on the record saying that he's trying to sell the company by August 31. If he is lying, what is the benefit to G&H of staying involved? One day the debt comes due, no matter who you are (big banks excluded... *cough*). Hodgson knows that Broughton is here to sell the club, so nothing tells me he is deluded enough to think that it won't happen. Instead, I really believe that Purslow/Broughton believe that Hodgson is the right guy for the job and see his appointment as even being an attractive part of the sale; I don't think they're doing things to drive down value and bury the club. They want to cash in. I hate them, but they're not idiots about money, just football.