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    #46
    Originally posted by peekay View Post
    Rafa is at fault with his handling of Yossi. Man management is an area where he should improve. But Yossi's interview in NOTW came across as classless and is very personal. He could have given his reasons in a better and more professional manner.
    Let's face it, we all know Benitez was rubbish at management. This interview came as no great suprise to me reading it. If anyone was suprised by it, I would say you must be clueless.

    As for why Yossi came out with the interview, I am thinking he wanted to give LFC fans the true reason, letting us know he didn't leave because he saw us as a sinking ship, and didn't leave for a bucket load of cash.

    It also helps shed a better light on Riera, who people have been having a few digs at. Two sides to every story though.
    Forwards.......

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      #47
      Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
      Let's face it, we all know Benitez was rubbish at management. This interview came as no great suprise to me reading it. If anyone was suprised by it, I would say you must be clueless.

      As for why Yossi came out with the interview, I am thinking he wanted to give LFC fans the true reason, letting us know he didn't leave because he saw us as a sinking ship, and didn't leave for a bucket load of cash.

      It also helps shed a better light on Riera, who people have been having a few digs at. Two sides to every story though.
      Really? Because to me it came across as bitter and self centred.

      Mmm, no, it has no effect on Riera at all. He has had issues elsewhere which would suggest he was the issue.

      As for rubbish at man management, I think that is wholly dependent on the player and the personality type, Reina clearly thought highly of Benitez for example as did Sami.
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        #48
        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
        Let's face it, we all know Benitez was rubbish at management. This interview came as no great suprise to me reading it. If anyone was suprised by it, I would say you must be clueless.

        As for why Yossi came out with the interview, I am thinking he wanted to give LFC fans the true reason, letting us know he didn't leave because he saw us as a sinking ship, and didn't leave for a bucket load of cash.

        It also helps shed a better light on Riera, who people have been having a few digs at. Two sides to every story though.
        I don't see his motives having anything to do with the fans, if he cared what we thought would he have left to join one of our rivals? Had the deal already been done before Rafa was sacked? I think his motives are more to take a swipe at the manager who he obviously had disagreements with and paint himself in a better light, and suggest to his new fans that he hadn't just come for the money.
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          #49
          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          I don't see his motives having anything to do with the fans, if he cared what we thought would he have left to join one of our rivals? Had the deal already been done before Rafa was sacked? I think his motives are more to take a swipe at the manager who he obviously had disagreements with and paint himself in a better light, and suggest to his new fans that he hadn't just come for the money.
          TBH, I fail to see how Chelsea are our rivals at this present time.
          Forwards.......

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            #50
            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
            Really? Because to me it came across as bitter and self centred.

            Mmm, no, it has no effect on Riera at all. He has had issues elsewhere which would suggest he was the issue.

            As for rubbish at man management, I think that is wholly dependent on the player and the personality type, Reina clearly thought highly of Benitez for example as did Sami.
            It's all about opinions and you're entitled to yours.

            There is no doubting the fact that certain players respond to different styles of management. I think Rafa's big error was too never alter his style to suit individual needs. That for me is poor man management. If you see it as players being weak willed then that's your opinion.

            TBH, I spent the best part of last season defending Rafa whilst the majority who stick up for him now were asking for him to get the boot.

            I've now spent the best part of the summer pointing out that he has gone, he had flaws, and we must move on and be positive.

            For some insane reason Rafa seems to have gone up in the estimations of people sine he has departed and all I see in threads now is arguments that are Rafa related. We wouldn't have bid for him if Rafa was here, he's not as good as Rafa, he'd have stayed if Rafa was here, Rafa had nothing to do with him leaving. etc.

            I'll be honest. I couldn't give a **** about Rafa would have done had he still been here. He is not. Let's move on and be positive.

            This is the VERY last time I will even entertain becoming involved in an argument that goes over the same topic again and again.
            Forwards.......

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              #51
              Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
              Let's face it, we all know Benitez was rubbish at management. This interview came as no great suprise to me reading it. If anyone was suprised by it, I would say you must be clueless.

              As for why Yossi came out with the interview, I am thinking he wanted to give LFC fans the true reason, letting us know he didn't leave because he saw us as a sinking ship, and didn't leave for a bucket load of cash.

              It also helps shed a better light on Riera, who people have been having a few digs at. Two sides to every story though.
              As I had indicated in my previous post, I am sure Yossi had valid reasons for leaving and I just wish he had conveyed it in a more professional manner. The interview reads like a hatchet job.

              One of the things which stumps me about the last three years of Rafa signings is that he started buying players who obviously needed a different style of management - Riera, Babel, Bellers. Most of them have had conflicts with previous management and was not exactly the type of mentality Rafa expected.

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                #52
                Rafa is a great man and is a great manager. He has his flaws and is someone in particular who requires a certain sort of character in order for his ideas to work.

                He is however no longer manager.
                Forwards.......

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  Rafa is a great man and is a great manager. He has his flaws and is someone in particular who requires a certain sort of character in order for his ideas to work.

                  He is however no longer manager.
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                    #54
                    If Yossi was unwilling to improve/ work harder in area Benitez' recommended then what a piss-poor professional he is. If your boss targeted an area for improvement would you fail to try to shore up those deficiencies? I want feed back from my superiors so I can improve. To decline to utilize that information bespeaks of one who does not give a ****.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by TartanTerror View Post
                      I want feed back from my superiors so I can improve.
                      Your superiors? Do you bow and scrape? How can I help you sir boss sir?

                      I hate that phrase.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                        Rafa is a great man and is a great manager. He has his flaws and is someone in particular who requires a certain sort of character in order for his ideas to work.

                        He is however no longer manager.
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Rich View Post
                          Probably your greatest ever post
                          Cheers, there's not much competition in regard to quality though
                          Forwards.......

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                            Or maybe Yossi just has an elevated opinion of himself and his performances and and cannot take criticism.
                            If this wasnt a repeat scenario situation with the likes of babel, keane, bellamy, yossi, riera you could argue that convincingly. However, due to the frequency of the souring of relationships with players its probably a character flaw that Rafa has.

                            Balague alluded to something like this when he said that for rafa's methods to work the squad has to be completely overhauled every 3 seasons or so and the fact that he also fell out with senior players at Valencia could possibly lead to the conclusion that its a weakness within Rafa.

                            Its not good for team spirit and harmony either and the last season was when the chickens came home to roost because none of the players looked like they were really going all out to save rafa's job.

                            No one bar pepe really stood up and that tells its own story. You cant treat players like that because believe it or not, even players earning 80 grand a week have feelings. People arent machines and he wouldnt like it if someone treated his daughters like that in their workplace.
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                              #59
                              Relentless, absolutely relentess. Like an arguing machine. This has been going on for how long now, a decade?

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Chris View Post
                                Relentless, absolutely relentess. Like an arguing machine. This has been going on for how long now, a decade?


                                I like the idea of an arguing machine.
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                                May the Lord bless this post.

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