Does this forum need a team building exercise?

[Red_Polo]

Nah, this place needs more arguments, if anything.

Too many high fives all round at the mo.

Oh **** off

[The Glove]

That's because some people do not respect others opinion, all the pro-RAFA think he's god when in fact he has made mistakes this season. We all want the same thing for OUR CLUB and that's SUCCESS but it ain't gonna happen if he continues to do what he's doing.
No more to say on this subject.

WALK ON

And whats that? Pick the best players we have?


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[anfieldanfield]

Oh **** off

Are you getting nervous about your signiture, yet ?

[Shaggy]

And whats that? Pick the best players we have?


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I wanted to say the same thing Benny but had to resist.

Rafa is doing NOTHING differently from last season, yet everyone wanted to lick his ringpiece last season. Yes he’s made some mistakes with selections (namely Crouch), but the overriding problem in all this (IMO) is a core of players all underperforming badly. Gerrard, Alonso, Hyypia, Carragher, Finnan and Reina are all players who excelled last season but have been **** this. Add to that underperforming new players like Bellamy, Pennant, Aurelio and to a lesser extent Gonzalez, then that’s 10 **** players – before we’ve even mentioned the hopeless Garcia, Riise and ****ing Zenden.

15 or so players playing seriously **** – how can anyone argue claim it’s all down to Rafa?

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We're not a team.

[Red_Polo]

Are you getting nervous about your signiture, yet ?

No, not really. It's only your neck on the line, nobody else's. Although I do feel bad for Johnny Nice Painter.

[anfieldanfield]

No, not really. It's only your neck on the line, nobody else's.

Fair shout, I hope I'm wrong, but as usual, I wont be.

There's no way Bellamy will get more than 9, in fact, he'll probably get about 5.

[Diego]

what i love about this place id how easy going it is, and when we disagree, then we agree to to so, most of us respect each other opinion and we have so far not been occupied by a bunch of ****ing loons like koptalk...

it's not about having differetn opinions, it's about agrueing them in an easy manner and getting your point across with out shoutin at some biggots who canðt handle their own ego...

[Red_Polo]

Fair shout, I hope I'm wrong, but as usual, I wont be.

LOL feeling confident then

We'll see in time...

[The Glove]

I wanted to say the same thing Benny but had to resist.

Rafa is doing NOTHING differently from last season, yet everyone wanted to lick his ringpiece last season. Yes he’s made some mistakes with selections (namely Crouch), but the overriding problem in all this (IMO) is a core of players all underperforming badly. Gerrard, Alonso, Hyypia, Carragher, Finnan and Reina are all players who excelled last season but have been **** this. Add to that underperforming new players like Bellamy, Pennant, Aurelio and to a lesser extent Gonzalez, then that’s 10 **** players – before we’ve even mentioned the hopeless Garcia, Riise and ****ing Zenden.

15 or so players playing seriously **** – how can anyone argue claim it’s all down to Rafa?

Id disagree about Finnan and maybe Bellers but the point is generally the same and I agree.

As Ive pointed out before, Rafa's tactics on sunday worked, the players never. The point was to stop their midfield storming on and feeding Rooney and Saha. Saha had one shot. Rooney didnt get a sniff. Tactics worked. The 2 goals were down to errors which we dont normally do. Apart from them 2 goals, the best chances came to our players. That tells you that our tactics did work but the the players were ****. Rafa isnt blamless in all this but he is further down the 'Who is to blame' list than a good few of the players.

[Red_Polo]

Id disagree about Finnan and maybe Bellers but the point is generally the same and I agree.

As Ive pointed out before, Rafa's tactics on sunday worked, the players never. The point was to stop their midfield storming on and feeding Rooney and Saha. Saha had one shot. Rooney didnt get a sniff. Tactics worked. The 2 goals were down to errors which we dont normally do. Apart from them 2 goals, the best chances came to our players. That tells you that our tactics did work but the the players were ****. Rafa isnt blamless in all this but he is further down the 'Who is to blame' list than a good few of the players.

Fair points, but what of our attacking gameplan?

[Kaip]

Can someone point me in the direction of a few of these threads where it`s been kicking off

[Red_Al_77]

Can someone point me in the direction of a few of these threads where it`s been kicking off

Money money money

[The Glove]

Well picking 1 up front suggests he went for the draw, which is what he is at fault for. Evra and Vidic are **** yet we had only Kuyt up front. Maybe realising our form isnt great Rafa decided a point was getable rather then risk being raped by not stuffing the midfield.

Rafa, for me, is guilty of not picking 2 up front and having a go at thier **** but thats all. The rest of the players seemed dis-interested and out of form. Thats only for them to sort out, no one else can help them with that. Crouch didnt look dis-interested when he came on and he has suffered more than most with Rotation. That shows me that rotation isnt a problem. If he can cope and look hungry then why cant the other ****ers?

[Bob]

I wanted to say the same thing Benny but had to resist.

Rafa is doing NOTHING differently from last season, yet everyone wanted to lick his ringpiece last season. Yes he’s made some mistakes with selections (namely Crouch), but the overriding problem in all this (IMO) is a core of players all underperforming badly. Gerrard, Alonso, Hyypia, Carragher, Finnan and Reina are all players who excelled last season but have been **** this. Add to that underperforming new players like Bellamy, Pennant, Aurelio and to a lesser extent Gonzalez, then that’s 10 **** players – before we’ve even mentioned the hopeless Garcia, Riise and ****ing Zenden.

15 or so players playing seriously **** – how can anyone argue claim it’s all down to Rafa?

But that's wrong - this isn't the first time people have been lamenting Rafa's managerial nous.

Its the Premiership that we all want, its the Premiership were Rafa has struggled the most. I'm not saying he's atrocious, but he has deserved some of the criticisms levied at him this season, and in the past.

Oh, the irony of this thread.