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    #61
    Before I begin, a warning – This is a tad long – I haven’t done a LONG post for a while so thought I’d make up for it here. Read or not as you choose – this is only what I think on the whole subject regarding our current manager. Anyway, here goes nothing…………….

    Right then, Roy Hodgson? Well for what it's worth - My view on the matter is that he's Only a caretaker manager - Was always meant as such and he simply was not hired for a long-term role at Anfield - Just to deflect attention from the Yanks (on their part) and FOCUS it on them with terrible results on the pitch (on the part of the board who hired him). He was only ever a stopgap and cannot adapt to the Size of his new club IMO - That much was made abundantly clear when he was hired and now we know just why; In addition, I believe that had Kenny come back as manager - He Might have galvanised us on the pitch - removed attention from H & G and made any sale Much more difficult - I doubt Broughton could have launched the sheer Media/PR barrage at H & G that he's done this past week were we flying high in the league - Everyone would ignore him - Tell him to shut up and Not destabilise the team/the sheep might even buy into the idea that we're Worth more as we'd be doing well - which in turn would be music to Hicks' ears - But in This mess? Forget it - That appointment and the disasters that have followed from it on the pitch has focused ALL sides artillery on Hicks & Gillette like NEVER before. Even the English media are now training their guns on them and That never happened before – Not to The current levels of sheer anti H & G bombardment from them anyway.

    Anyway back to Mr Hodgson - I believe the REAL reason he keeps harping on about his methods and defending his coaching techniques is not to defend his pre-prehistoric methods that are so old and ineffective they predate the Jurassic era and Never work. Oh no, the Only reason Roy is banging on about his methods now is Not so he can imprint them on the squad - He won't be here long enough for THAT and knows it. No, this is all actually being done so lovable 'Roy (Copyright The English Press) can have in place for When he soon goes the excuse that he Tried to imprint his strategic 'vision' such as it were on this squad but they just wouldn't respond/were resistant to his genius. Thus couldn't apply any tactical variations to their play as they never understood his strategy in the first place (which neatly sidesteps the argument that he's tactically bankrupt which he emphatically IS) and Which to will no doubt lead to yet another raft of "Evil Liverpool players force yet Another manager out/Liverpool idiots couldn't adapt to manager's simple plans/foreign stars vendetta against our Roy" stories from the (Anti-) Gentlemen of Her Majesty's Press.

    As per usual over here really - Anything but blame the Englishmen no? And we wonder just WHY our coaches have been a laughing stock for the better part of Four decades now? Erm, the phrases "resistance to change/reluctance to learn/Won’t see what's wrong as it would humiliate years of 'English' methodology" and destroy the English 'style' Might just be a Big part of that no? Shame the English Press will NEVER see that and utterly refuse to slate Our coaches publicly (and deservedly in many cases) as they so often do 'Johnny' Foreigner - I laughed at him 3 years ago and despaired to but maybe our country NEEDS more Steve Mclarens - Men willing to learn & Go abroad and Change their ideas/evolve new tactics as necessary - Roy Hodgson is NOT that and so he Will be gone from us Very soon and probably knows that - What's more I suspect his replacement has already been lined up as I type if not before now.

    Just whom could that New Manager of ours possibly be? Well, put it this way - I don't think a certain Spanish Coach of an Italian Side who are their nations current 'Perennial' League Champions (as we aspire to one day be HERE once more) has had reports released into the press about "one day coming back to" Liverpool or owning his ONLY house in the world here for nothing - Nor do I believe the reports now emanating out of Milan already of said Manager having No say on transfers due to his Club President and Not being able to choose who to buy are what we would call coincidental either - Further? If you take a look at said coaches recent history - those last 2 facts in particular might indicate signs of coming unease in his current position and that history tells us that when he's uneasy with his job? The Coach in question doesn't often stick around in that position for very long. In fact if Pushed for an answer? I'd say that what we are Going to witness regarding Roy's departure from the club in the next few months will be the culmination of Senor Rafael Benitez' Last Big plan – put in place from ‘behind the scenes’ as it were whilst he was still Liverpool Manager. A plan put in place well BEFORE he left and one intended to conclude with the end result that HE returns as our manager in a relatively short space of time to rescue us from the doom laden mess inflicted on us by his incompetent (and stupidly appointed) English successor. I’ve a feeling that When he comes back – Rafa’ will have Plenty to say on both Roy and the process that led to his appointment thanks to Hicks & Gillette as well.

    I think Rafa' was playing a long game whilst here and this plan would quite snugly fit in with that - Obviously, I can't PROVE it exists but don't forget just What a Strategos fanatic Rafa' is or just How he loves such little plans and strategies from 'behind the scenes' as it were. The signs of what Could soon happen regarding our managers old and new are there if you care to look for them and although I'm guessing as to the existence of the plan itself? What I AM sure of is that Rafa's done Something to keep him with a chance of coming back to Anfield professionally at SOME point soon and a plan like this one would be a perfect way to achieve that aim. Either way? Such a plan as this is clearly the brainchild of Rafa' without a doubt and was IMHO conceived Long before he left as our manager in the event of HIM being forced out by H & G - Just as the removal of Hicks and Gillette is now Going to be I believe the culmination of his year and a bit long Final Attack on them both (itself coming after 2/3 years of constant attacks on them by him whilst he was Manager). It was I think, an attack he Began last September after Gillette was caught lying in public to one Liverpool fansite in particular about investing HIS money into Liverpool for 2 years when he'd done No such thing.

    Don't you think it's therefore just a Little suspect that Straight after that interview (just after we destroyed Hull 6 - 1) not only was Hicks outed as a liar by said website in Public? But that also, a few days later we played Fiorentina in Florence with some Very strange midfield and tactical decisions by Rafa' were absolutely crucified by Stevan Jovetic (who Rafa' was denied the funds to purchase by H & G alongside Aquilani After we sold Alonso don't forget) and went into a nosedive we STILL haven't recovered from On the pitch - We went from one of our better winning runs of recent seasons with 6 straight wins (a run of the type Roy is incapable of sparking) with a series of goal-laden victories that were achieved even Without Alonso there anymore to suddenly becoming a dull-as-dishwater, cowardly, pathetic, defensive outfit who didn't score 3 or more in a game for another FIVE months after the Hull demolition job.

    What’s more during All that time? We had not ONE of the tactical strokes or flashes of genius that Rafa’ is so famous for when his sides are doing badly? There was just………nothing – Like he’d given up. But we all know Rafa’ Never gives up and that’s what leads me to believe that all that has happened SINCE last September has effectively been mapped out by him quite deliberately – I can't help but think NONE of this was just a coincidence either as it all led directly to us missing out on qualifying for the Champions League by a Big margin and led upstart pathetic excuses for teams like Spurs or City to finishing above us when we had by far the more powerful Team last season with at least their equal in many of our players’ abilities. This was despite us never playing like it except in isolated flashes. Then as a result – This non-qualification for the CL of course so badly damaged H & G’s financial gains from Anfield that they HAD to refinance and allow Broughton the powers he now has as Chairman one of the conditions to receive that refinancing.

    That forced devolution of powers from the owners has in turn? Of course now led almost directly to our day in court with that Fat, Useless, pathetic, loudmouthed Texan B*stard & his snotty nosed little Penfold Lookalike of a sidekick next week whereby one way or another – They WILL lose the club either there or the week after. That is directly the result of what happened on Rafa's watch as manager last season and I can't help but have the feeling it was ALL directed by Him somehow - Strategy is the hallmark of the man no doubt and makes him a Very fine manager but I think he's outdone even himself with This one IF he's had anything to do with the way events have unfolded since the end of last September. You have to admit, the way things started slightly back then and then snowballed into the current firestorm at H & G almost Forcing their removal? It’s almost as though it were all somehow scripted beforehand to ensure that everything occurred the way it has and in the order it has isn’t it?

    Just look at how first, attacks were opened on H & G after THAT interview last September, see how they then intensified, then look at how they were backed up by players, then fans and eventually ex-players in the media, then look at how the banks turned on them, followed by the Club's Board and finally the Chairman as well; All the while to an increasing background of protests, boycotts, media barrages and financial penalties ALL due to the teams non-performance with helpful comments from the then manager about how the squad had been damaged but he wouldn’t explain how leaving us to draw our own conclusions, or how the big guns like first Pepe’ and then ‘Nando opened up at H & G one after another – Never mind the very act of REMOVING Rafa’, the sheer ineptness of his replacement and how this has now brought matters to a head – With eventually even the media on Both sides of the Atlantic turning on them and FORCING them to be accountable whereas before they arrogantly believed they were invincible in the USA (especially that tw*t Hicks).

    Well, it’s almost like whoever’s directing these events has read from a script yes? And if that WAS the case – then I’ve got a pretty good idea just WHO wrote said script. I think we All have no? Basically? We'll have to wait and see if he did but the more I look at the way H & G have been manouevred around, sniped at, attacked, undermined and eventually FORCED out during their time as owners of Liverpool? Well the more I look at all that and the way it has been done? Then the more I see that Much of it has Rafael Benitez's fingerprints all over it – In fact, I’d go so far as to say I think our Former Manager's greatest victory as our boss will take place in court next week 4 months after he left and without him even present to see it. However quite clearly, he Will know of it as the end result is all his own handiwork thanks to the way he's been working against H & G over 3/4 years and set in motion schemes that don't need his OWN presence at the club (due to the momentum they gather gradually) to cause their eventual downfall. I think Rafa' is aware of all this - He'll be keeping a distant eye on Anfield I have no doubt at all in the next week or so and to he'll probably have a glass of wine and a sly smile to himself somewhere deep in the City of Milan at the demise of Tom Hicks & his sidekicks odious Liverpool Regime.

    Incidentally - On another note? Wasn't Hicks & Gillette's complete SILENCE on Rafa's barrage at them from Inter Milan regarding their utter lack of Football Knowledge as Directors of a FOOTBALL Club the other week somewhat instructive of what he REALLY thought of them after a couple of years of holding his tongue since 2007? I believe the total and utter silence on their part after that media onslaught spoke volumes For their guilt as charged by Rafa' as well. Really, there was nothing they Could say in response though was there? The reason for that being that every word of Rafa’s carefully timed and Very Public attack was true. As to the future? If Rafa's thinking what he could well be thinking? I doubt the term 'Former Manager of Liverpool' and his name will be in the same sentence for to long - I doubt either that Rafa' will be the ONLY Liverpool FC Manager removed in the year of 2010 - Maybe Purslow will remove Hodgson as well although my money will be on Broughton to deliver That blow When it comes. Either way, mark my words - It WILL come and soon as well. With regard to Senor Rafa'? Well, I think it's pretty clear that Rafael Benitez Will be back at some point in the Anfield Dugout - It's only a matter of time quite clearly. It could even be happening Now but who knows? Sooner or later? Time will tell - However, one thing's for certain, We haven't seen the last of Rafa' as our leader - And we might just see him again as well - When will that be? You might well ask? Well, put it this way - I think we could be seeing him again at Anfield one day and that Might happen quite soon, you never know.

    You think I’m talking rubbish or Rafa’ could never return? Maybe – but ask yourself this -, just Why do you think the media have virtually begun a “Keep Roy at Liverpool” and “Blame it all on Rafa” campaign in recent weeks in addition to them Finally attacking H & G relentlessly as they should have been all along – I think they KNOW that Rafa’ thinks along those lines – They know to that we WILL be taken over one way or another in the next week or so and the thought of Rafa’ back under Proper owners able to back him properly in their ‘pet’ the Premier League and with Ferguson either gone or about to go on top of that? Well, put simply THAT thought utterly terrifies them. There’s no-one more bitter than a media hack proven wrong and I’ve a feeling that If what I outline or something like it does transpire and Rafa’ Does end up back at Anfield in the hot seat? There’ll be more than a few angry, bitter media hacks left eating their novels worths of previous weasel words about Rafa’ – What’s more? They know this to – Why else do you think they’re scared of him? And they’re right to be worried about him – Something tells me they’ll find out soon enough just How right they are in that respect as like the Terminator? Rafael Benitez WILL be back at Anfield one day and it could just be a LOT sooner than we all think.......................
    Last edited by Redshadow; 10-10-10, 07:02 AM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Redshadow View Post
      Before I begin, a warning – This is a tad long – I haven’t done a LONG post for a while so thought I’d make up for it here. Read or not as you choose – this is only what I think on the whole subject regarding our current manager. Anyway, here goes nothing…………….

      Right then, Roy Hodgson? Well for what it's worth - My view on the matter is that he's Only a caretaker manager - Was always meant as such and he simply was not hired for a long-term role at Anfield - Just to deflect attention from the Yanks (on their part) and FOCUS it on them with terrible results on the pitch (on the part of the board who hired him). He was only ever a stopgap and cannot adapt to the Size of his new club IMO - That much was made abundantly clear when he was hired and now we know just why; In addition, I believe that had Kenny come back as manager - He Might have galvanised us on the pitch - removed attention from H & G and made any sale Much more difficult - I doubt Broughton could have launched the sheer Media/PR barrage at H & G that he's done this past week were we flying high in the league - Everyone would ignore him - Tell him to shut up and Not destabilise the team/the sheep might even buy into the idea that we're Worth more as we'd be doing well - which in turn would be music to Hicks' ears - But in This mess? Forget it - That appointment and the disasters that have followed from it on the pitch has focused ALL sides artillery on Hicks & Gillette like NEVER before. Even the English media are now training their guns on them and That never happened before – Not to The current levels of sheer anti H & G bombardment from them anyway.

      Anyway back to Mr Hodgson - I believe the REAL reason he keeps harping on about his methods and defending his coaching techniques is not to defend his pre-prehistoric methods that are so old and ineffective they predate the Jurassic era and Never work. Oh no, the Only reason Roy is banging on about his methods now is Not so he can imprint them on the squad - He won't be here long enough for THAT and knows it. No, this is all actually being done so lovable 'Roy (Copyright The English Press) can have in place for When he soon goes the excuse that he Tried to imprint his strategic 'vision' such as it were on this squad but they just wouldn't respond/were resistant to his genius. Thus couldn't apply any tactical variations to their play as they never understood his strategy in the first place (which neatly sidesteps the argument that he's tactically bankrupt which he emphatically IS) and Which to will no doubt lead to yet another raft of "Evil Liverpool players force yet Another manager out/Liverpool idiots couldn't adapt to manager's simple plans/foreign stars vendetta against our Roy" stories from the (Anti-) Gentlemen of Her Majesty's Press.

      As per usual over here really - Anything but blame the Englishmen no? And we wonder just WHY our coaches have been a laughing stock for the better part of Four decades now? Erm, the phrases "resistance to change/reluctance to learn/Won’t see what's wrong as it would humiliate years of 'English' methodology" and destroy the English 'style' Might just be a Big part of that no? Shame the English Press will NEVER see that and utterly refuse to slate Our coaches publicly (and deservedly in many cases) as they so often do 'Johnny' Foreigner - I laughed at him 3 years ago and despaired to but maybe our country NEEDS more Steve Mclarens - Men willing to learn & Go abroad and Change their ideas/evolve new tactics as necessary - Roy Hodgson is NOT that and so he Will be gone from us Very soon and probably knows that - What's more I suspect his replacement has already been lined up as I type if not before now.

      Just whom could that New Manager of ours possibly be? Well, put it this way - I don't think a certain Spanish Coach of an Italian Side who are their nations current 'Perennial' League Champions (as we aspire to one day be HERE once more) has had reports released into the press about "one day coming back to" Liverpool or owning his ONLY house in the world here for nothing - Nor do I believe the reports now emanating out of Milan already of said Manager having No say on transfers due to his Club President and Not being able to choose who to buy are what we would call coincidental either - Further? If you take a look at said coaches recent history - those last 2 facts in particular might indicate signs of coming unease in his current position and that history tells us that when he's uneasy with his job? The Coach in question doesn't often stick around in that position for very long. In fact if Pushed for an answer? I'd say that what we are Going to witness regarding Roy's departure from the club in the next few months will be the culmination of Senor Rafael Benitez' Last Big plan – put in place from ‘behind the scenes’ as it were whilst he was still Liverpool Manager. A plan put in place well BEFORE he left and one intended to conclude with the end result that HE returns as our manager in a relatively short space of time to rescue us from the doom laden mess inflicted on us by his incompetent (and stupidly appointed) English successor. I’ve a feeling that When he comes back – Rafa’ will have Plenty to say on both Roy and the process that led to his appointment thanks to Hicks & Gillette as well.

      I think Rafa' was playing a long game whilst here and this plan would quite snugly fit in with that - Obviously, I can't PROVE it exists but don't forget just What a Strategos fanatic Rafa' is or just How he loves such little plans and strategies from 'behind the scenes' as it were. The signs of what Could soon happen regarding our managers old and new are there if you care to look for them and although I'm guessing as to the existence of the plan itself? What I AM sure of is that Rafa's done Something to keep him with a chance of coming back to Anfield professionally at SOME point soon and a plan like this one would be a perfect way to achieve that aim. Either way? Such a plan as this is clearly the brainchild of Rafa' without a doubt and was IMHO conceived Long before he left as our manager in the event of HIM being forced out by H & G - Just as the removal of Hicks and Gillette is now Going to be I believe the culmination of his year and a bit long Final Attack on them both (itself coming after 2/3 years of constant attacks on them by him whilst he was Manager). It was I think, an attack he Began last September after Gillette was caught lying in public to one Liverpool fansite in particular about investing HIS money into Liverpool for 2 years when he'd done No such thing.

      Don't you think it's therefore just a Little suspect that Straight after that interview (just after we destroyed Hull 6 - 1) not only was Hicks outed as a liar by said website in Public? But that also, a few days later we played Fiorentina in Florence with some Very strange midfield and tactical decisions by Rafa' were absolutely crucified by Stevan Jovetic (who Rafa' was denied the funds to purchase by H & G alongside Aquilani After we sold Alonso don't forget) and went into a nosedive we STILL haven't recovered from On the pitch - We went from one of our better winning runs of recent seasons with 6 straight wins (a run of the type Roy is incapable of sparking) with a series of goal-laden victories that were achieved even Without Alonso there anymore to suddenly becoming a dull-as-dishwater, cowardly, pathetic, defensive outfit who didn't score 3 or more in a game for another FIVE months after the Hull demolition job.

      What’s more during All that time? We had not ONE of the tactical strokes or flashes of genius that Rafa’ is so famous for when his sides are doing badly? There was just………nothing – Like he’d given up. But we all know Rafa’ Never gives up and that’s what leads me to believe that all that has happened SINCE last September has effectively been mapped out by him quite deliberately – I can't help but think NONE of this was just a coincidence either as it all led directly to us missing out on qualifying for the Champions League by a Big margin and led upstart pathetic excuses for teams like Spurs or City to finishing above us when we had by far the more powerful Team last season with at least their equal in many of our players’ abilities. This was despite us never playing like it except in isolated flashes. Then as a result – This non-qualification for the CL of course so badly damaged H & G’s financial gains from Anfield that they HAD to refinance and allow Broughton the powers he now has as Chairman one of the conditions to receive that refinancing.

      That forced devolution of powers from the owners has in turn? Of course now led almost directly to our day in court with that Fat, Useless, pathetic, loudmouthed Texan B*stard & his snotty nosed little Penfold Lookalike of a sidekick next week whereby one way or another – They WILL lose the club either there or the week after. That is directly the result of what happened on Rafa's watch as manager last season and I can't help but have the feeling it was ALL directed by Him somehow - Strategy is the hallmark of the man no doubt and makes him a Very fine manager but I think he's outdone even himself with This one IF he's had anything to do with the way events have unfolded since the end of last September. You have to admit, the way things started slightly back then and then snowballed into the current firestorm at H & G almost Forcing their removal? It’s almost as though it were all somehow scripted beforehand to ensure that everything occurred the way it has and in the order it has isn’t it?

      Just look at how first, attacks were opened on H & G after THAT interview last September, see how they then intensified, then look at how they were backed up by players, then fans and eventually ex-players in the media, then look at how the banks turned on them, followed by the Club's Board and finally the Chairman as well; All the while to an increasing background of protests, boycotts, media barrages and financial penalties ALL due to the teams non-performance with helpful comments from the then manager about how the squad had been damaged but he wouldn’t explain how leaving us to draw our own conclusions, or how the big guns like first Pepe’ and then ‘Nando opened up at H & G one after another – Never mind the very act of REMOVING Rafa’, the sheer ineptness of his replacement and how this has now brought matters to a head – With eventually even the media on Both sides of the Atlantic turning on them and FORCING them to be accountable whereas before they arrogantly believed they were invincible in the USA (especially that tw*t Hicks).

      Well, it’s almost like whoever’s directing these events has read from a script yes? And if that WAS the case – then I’ve got a pretty good idea just WHO wrote said script. I think we All have no? Basically? We'll have to wait and see if he did but the more I look at the way H & G have been manouevred around, sniped at, attacked, undermined and eventually FORCED out during their time as owners of Liverpool? Well the more I look at all that and the way it has been done? Then the more I see that Much of it has Rafael Benitez's fingerprints all over it – In fact, I’d go so far as to say I think our Former Manager's greatest victory as our boss will take place in court next week 4 months after he left and without him even present to see it. However quite clearly, he Will know of it as the end result is all his own handiwork thanks to the way he's been working against H & G over 3/4 years and set in motion schemes that don't need his OWN presence at the club (due to the momentum they gather gradually) to cause their eventual downfall. I think Rafa' is aware of all this - He'll be keeping a distant eye on Anfield I have no doubt at all in the next week or so and to he'll probably have a glass of wine and a sly smile to himself somewhere deep in the City of Milan at the demise of Tom Hicks & his sidekicks odious Liverpool Regime.

      Incidentally - On another note? Wasn't Hicks & Gillette's complete SILENCE on Rafa's barrage at them from Inter Milan regarding their utter lack of Football Knowledge as Directors of a FOOTBALL Club the other week somewhat instructive of what he REALLY thought of them after a couple of years of holding his tongue since 2007? I believe the total and utter silence on their part after that media onslaught spoke volumes For their guilt as charged by Rafa' as well. Really, there was nothing they Could say in response though was there? The reason for that being that every word of Rafa’s carefully timed and Very Public attack was true. As to the future? If Rafa's thinking what he could well be thinking? I doubt the term 'Former Manager of Liverpool' and his name will be in the same sentence for to long - I doubt either that Rafa' will be the ONLY Liverpool FC Manager removed in the year of 2010 - Maybe Purslow will remove Hodgson as well although my money will be on Broughton to deliver That blow When it comes. Either way, mark my words - It WILL come and soon as well. With regard to Senor Rafa'? Well, I think it's pretty clear that Rafael Benitez Will be back at some point in the Anfield Dugout - It's only a matter of time quite clearly. It could even be happening Now but who knows? Sooner or later? Time will tell - However, one thing's for certain, We haven't seen the last of Rafa' as our leader - And we might just see him again as well - When will that be? You might well ask? Well, put it this way - I think we could be seeing him again at Anfield one day and that Might happen quite soon, you never know.

      You think I’m talking rubbish or Rafa’ could never return? Maybe – but ask yourself this -, just Why do you think the media have virtually begun a “Keep Roy at Liverpool” and “Blame it all on Rafa” campaign in recent weeks in addition to them Finally attacking H & G relentlessly as they should have been all along – I think they KNOW that Rafa’ thinks along those lines – They know to that we WILL be taken over one way or another in the next week or so and the thought of Rafa’ back under Proper owners able to back him properly in their ‘pet’ the Premier League and with Ferguson either gone or about to go on top of that? Well, put simply THAT thought utterly terrifies them. There’s no-one more bitter than a media hack proven wrong and I’ve a feeling that If what I outline or something like it does transpire and Rafa’ Does end up back at Anfield in the hot seat? There’ll be more than a few angry, bitter media hacks left eating their novels worths of previous weasel words about Rafa’ – What’s more? They know this to – Why else do you think they’re scared of him? And they’re right to be worried about him – Something tells me they’ll find out soon enough just How right they are in that respect as like the Terminator? Rafael Benitez WILL be back at Anfield one day and it could just be a LOT sooner than we all think.......................
      Not so excellent post

      Rafa never do anything unplanned. When he make statements or weird interviews then it's point to why he makes them. It may not be clear after a month or two why he did them but after a year or longer then almost always his so called weird statements and interviews is suddenly not weird anymore.

      He will always look more long term than short term, always. He did that at Valencia and he did it here. It's always a very good reason to why he do something. He never make a gamble, never. A youngsters will get the chance when Rafa think that he is ready and not when the media do that. He will always look at what is best for the player long term. A 18 year old player may be good enough but if his body isn't ready then Rafa will wait because he will always do what is best for the player long term. No doubt that Rafa wanted to use Pacheco for example more but his body wasn't ready and the risk being kicked to pieces in the toughest league in the world was a to big risk to take. Better to wait and look at what is best for the player long term.

      That is Rafa. Long term first, always. He always have a plan.
      Last edited by Arn; 10-10-10, 11:48 AM.
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        #63
        So much I disagreed with just not worth going to the effort of going through that again. Biggest thing for me is why the hell would Rafa make us fail for a whole season, that is utterly ridiculous I think, now way he would do something like that. If it DID occur the players would surely realise it because of the tactics he is telling and if that was the case why the hell would they stay if he was to come back knowing it could happen to them again...
        96 Never Forgotten

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          #64
          On second thoughts that is definetely a wind up
          96 Never Forgotten

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            #65
            Originally posted by Redshadow View Post
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            I find it VERY irritating that you feel the need to EMPHASIZE words with CAPS.

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              #66
              Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
              I find it VERY irritating that you feel the need to EMPHASIZE words with CAPS.
              i find it HARD to read his posts BECAUSE of that.

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                #67
                the most bollocks conspiracy theory I have ever read... thanks for posting tho'

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                  #68
                  With regard to what I wrote earlier and it’s replies – I have this to say. Fernandinho? No It's NOT a wind-up by me. Nor is it a Conspiracy Theory either Frenchie - It's just what I Think will happen at some point in the not-to-distant future. I believe Rafa' Only left us as a last resort and Always had some sort of plan in place to help him come back once the twin curses at the very top of our club were removed (as they Will be next week). Arn has the right of it I believe - Rafa' NEVER did (or does) carry out any action he ever makes without some sort of plan or reason for it - The man is a strategy fanatic and Loves planning things well in advance - I believe his departure from Liverpool was no exception - nor Will His return be whenever that may be - And mark my words, that return WILL occur at some point. Anyway - Fernandinho - You ask Why would Rafa' make us fail purposely? Simple - I believe he hated and wanted rid of the owners as much as Any fan does and he's ALWAYS held a grudge against them since Hicks humiliated him in 2007 over the “coaching my team” debacle when he asked for transfer funds for January 2008. Since then? I believe Rafa’ was always planning something like what’s happened to H & G now to occur as his eventual revenge on them.

                  As to the question of just Why would the players go along with it? Simple again – I believe They wanted rid of Hicks and Gillette just as much as Rafa’ did and knew the one SURE way of removing them eventually was via their own actions or lack thereof (And if we start to play really well When they're gone? Then that will be even more proof of this IMO). Think about it - If YOU were playing for Liverpool FC and Knew how much the owners had held back the club, Knew that they'd made us lose out on the chance of valuable players who Would improve our squad in the past to save them money to pay off debts They had incurred buying our club. If you knew as well that these owners had taken our best chance of Consistently pushing for and winning a league title in 2 decades after 1990 and utterly destroyed it by weakening our squad more severely than at ANY point in those 2 decades and all for their own selfish gain. If you knew that these owners had then gone on to systematically dismantle the side that had done so well and sold off your most effective playing colleagues one by one After coming so close (in 2009) all again so they could pay off debt on them owning the club. In addition to the above, If you knew that our club's revenues had increased fivefold since they came along but that the club received not a penny of it and it All went on debt; Well, If you knew ALL of this and were/had become as big a fan of the club as the likes of Reina/Torres/Alonso/Crouch had been and Gerrard/Carragher Are? Is it not possible Then that you (and your colleagues who also know what’s going on) could “take one for the team” as it were and sacrifice a season or two for long-term stability?

                  Again, I say consider it thus; If you were one of the players and maybe also loved the club like some of them undoubtedly do? Perhaps then the answer as to what you do If your manager suddenly presented you in private with a way to fatally damage those owners who are actively damaging the club by sucking money out season in, season out without a care for the damage it causes– but it would involve hurting the club on the pitch might just Not be as clear as it seems to you and I no? A simple “no, we can’t hurt the club while We are representing them on the pitch” might NOT be such a simple answer from you and the other players if that was the case no? What I’m saying is that the way things were going? I believe some of the players Knew all about the owners – They Knew what they had done and Were doing to the club – They knew how it was killing us ON the pitch and how matters would only get worse for us the longer they stayed. I think a number of players who are still here from Rafa’s time Still think that way – Maybe Reina’s one of them? Consider yet Another attack on the chaos surrounding our club in the press by him today in the media? That attack was yet again aimed squarely at those Behind such chaos if you read between the lines – Our owners. And Reina’s done this before as well – As has Torres.

                  Anyway, with regard to the players? They're not stupid and I doubt any of them were ignorant of how far we had begun to fall and how weak our squad had become the longer the reign of Hicks and Gillette continued; Nor can ANY of them have Failed to notice how Rafa' tried his level best to work within such constraints and repair damage as it occurred. They Must have seen as well the derisory insulting sums he was given during his last season when the team Desperately needed strengthening – I mean does anyone Really believe that they didn’t notice what was happening all around them? Quite aside from the Alonso Debacle - It was clear just how so very badly we Needed to replace Hyppia to stop the ship rocking at the back just before the Summer ’09 transfer window shuts and the owners response to such a clear need for reinforcements After he’s made the club tens of millions in the Transfer Window? They give Rafa’ what? 2 million – JUST enough to sign Kyrgiakos? That’s like patting a starving kid on the head and saying “here’s 10p, go and buy some penny sweets” when all other kids are all spending £3 each at least on the latest chocolate bars or what about when the owners ONLY allowed him to sign Maxi Rodriguez on a Free in January?

                  Again, this to was utterly ridiculous and patronising in the face of what other sides were buying at the time as well – It was H & G effectively saying “**** off – you’re getting Nothing but some loose change – other teams are strengthening? We don’t care – WE need the money – LFC’s Team doesn’t matter in the face of that, now take the change from the back of the sofa – go get someone short term and Stop bothering us”. Just to reinforce this fact – It wasn’t only in the transfer window this January that we were insulted by being made to sell and sign free transfers as replacements or NOT buy replacements at all either. The same was true a year before when we sold Robbie Keane at the Very last minute and didn’t replace him despite crying out for a new forward to strengthen our Title Challenge at that time. I mean come on – Are you telling me how the players Didn’t notice our virtual entire Lack of signings to Strengthen the team (and I’m not talking the likes of Glen Johnson, Alberto Aquilani, Raul Meireles or Christian Poulsen who are/were All replacements) for FOUR Transfer windows now?

                  Basically, with regard to the strengthened revenue we’ve had since H & G came? The last 4/5 Transfer Windows have been nothing more than deliberate INSULTS designed as nothing but slaps in the face for the Liverpool team, management, fans and even players - That we make SO much more now in revenue and not a Penny of it is spent on strengthening a team that's been weakened for Four consecutive Transfer Windows now is nothing more than a Crime on the part of that Useless Texan Creature claiming to 'own' us and his owlish looking pathetic little sidekick. Hicks actions and words now dismissing the fans and their concerns, insulting Directors and trying to sack them for agreeing a sale After he and Gillette themselves had agreed to sell the club, trying to prevent the sale in court and insulting the fans for Wanting someone in who CAN strengthen the side in place of the Twin W*nkers? Well those actions now by Hicks are all just Proving that the lack of Transfer Activity since 2008 has been nothing short of deliberate and knowing him, they were probably meant as a direct insult to us and also as a sort of punishment for taking him on. Effectively, we’re being told that our hopes and needs for the team and those of the team themselves? Don’t matter – that H & G maintaining Their hold by paying off the debt THEY incurred is all-important – Basically, that we should shut up and not bother them since they’re doing fine as our owners despite clear and overwhelming evidence to the contrary being there for all to see quite publicly.

                  Anyway, don’t you think everything that’s been occurring here at Anfield off the pitch would be noticed by our players? Especially those that Care for the club, if it happened over a long period - say, a period of 2/3 years - as it has been now, would it not be unavoidable? Surely, something happening That long can’t fail to be noticed no? And if you look at it that way - Is it then such a leap to imagine it causing more than a few such players to dislike the owners and want rid of them at ANY cost? Consider; if therefore, the players Were aware and some of them really Did care about the club as I suspect? Then they can’t fail to have not only noticed just how much H & G are hurting us or to dislike if not hate them for what they’ve done. With all that in mind - it surely only takes a short leap from that to THEM actively wanting rid of the owners to them sabotaging them by NOT performing on the pitch no? It’s an easy jump to make isn’t it? As I said – with our owners so OPENLY playing the part of economic bandits/corporate raiders/asset strippers – damaging the team for their own gain if you will? Is it therefore such a leap to imagine that their actions might Just have wound more than a few of our players up the wrong way (almost to breaking point?) as they realised just how big a ride we were being taken for by our so-called 'owners'.

                  In fact, they might just have grown to HATE them for it. Some of them so much so that they might just have either been in on or at least aware of what Rafa' was doing or had planned - And believe me, some of the players had to know something of it IF Rafa’ had something in place to attack them; I doubt he would have kept them in the dark so determined was he to remove the owners) Bring it back to your own view again - If you were an LFC player and loved this club as a number of our top players did or do - What would you do if suddenly presented with a surefire way of removing those human leeches even though it would take a year or more but that in the end? It would Ensure the club is far stronger than before in the long run? Would you go along with it - Keep your mouth shut, take short-term pain for Long term gain? Or would you protest about it, ruin the plan, Keep winning, keep lining the owners pockets and ensure they're Still here in another 3/4 years time draining the club’s financial strength as fast as we could gain it – And make no mistake - They Would have been here years from now had we not done so badly last season - Or to put it another way - Do you honestly think we'd even be CLOSE to court next week to removing H & G at long last if we'd finished in the Top 3 again last season? I don't. I think Hicks would be in sole charge and stronger than ever by now if THAT had happened. I don't think Rafa' would be here either in that case still but quite obviously? We also wouldn't have the slightest Chance of removing H & G as we're on the verge of doing now, had we done well last season.

                  In the end don't forget the One thing the owners Can't control and which might just have had the decisive impact in removing them is how well the players play and wouldn't it be Just like the strategist Rafa' undoubtedly is to attack them in this way by affecting That factor of the club's operation yes? They'd be utterly Furious if it were true and Hicks in particular would be absolutely fuming that the players haven't performed just to get rid of them for the last year or so - the fact that the fans have now turned on their own club with boycotts aimed specifically at HIM would only make him even angrier but the player performance factor - If true? Would leave Ol' Tom completely incandescent with fury I have NO doubt - That's something I could live with though and I hope he becomes so angry at the rebellion from players And fans that he bursts a blood vessel or two. Either way, the fact remains, they can't touch that side of things whilst Rafa' could have done as manager and If the players played badly enough for long enough whether deliberately or not? Well, let's just say we'll probably see the results of what could happen then in Court next week.

                  Basically All I'm saying is? We shouldn't have such a go at Rafa' for failing last season - He may have failed deliberately or he may have Finally fallen under impossible circumstances that even Ferguson would (and Will soon enough) struggle with but Rafa' was in an impossible position of having to take on several Much stronger clubs financially with others joining them and not even a trickle of money never mind reinforcements from his side and if he DID act deliberately to remove the owners? We should one day thank him instead of being short-termist idiots who moan about what happened on the pitch Last Season - If he'd done nothing and H & G had stayed? Then a Relegation (never mind a battle as there wouldn't be one - We'd not be strong enough) would not just be a possibility - It would be a certainty. Whilst they've been here (H & G). On Pitch events should have been the least of our worries with Everything secondary to getting rid of them.

                  Yes - It HAS come to that eventually but it Should have happened far sooner and to moan about things going wrong on the pitch last season after Rafa' holding back the tide so long is like the Little Dutch Boy with his finger in the dykes holding back the sea moaning that he's going to get a little bit wet WHEN he removes them - It's painful - but unavoidable and better to the alternative - for the boy staying in place and drowning as he would? Instead of removing his fingers, getting wet and running read us focusing Only on the pitch - Forcing our team to do well and ending up with H & G as owners whose end wouldn't come here until Years from now rather than weeks which would have happened had we focused only on the pitch as many did when Rafa' went. We wouldn't survive just like the Dutch Boy wouldn't if he didn't run and get a little wet - FAR better for us to take some damage ON the pitch now and remove H & G as a result than be saddled with them for years to come. We should thank Rafa' in a way because Last Season? Brought everything to a head and our club will soon be Far better off for it as the vampires Will be burned out of their holes in the week to come and we will Finally be rid of them once and for all as they are forced out of the door kicking and screaming to the last by one from the Bank or the English Courts (and something tells me nationality Might play a Big part in the case when it comes – I don’t think our courts LIKE Mr Hick very much and I’ve a feeling they’ll demonstrate that when the time comes).

                  As I've said many times though - much of my views may turn out to be nothing but unsupported rubbish (take note Frenchie and Fernandinho - I Know it might be rubbish, you don’t need to remind me of that – However, I myself am SURE something happened under Rafa' last season). Anyway, contrast our form from August 2008 - October 2009 and the utter Collapse of it between October 2009 - October 2010 and it ALL began that week after we slaughtered Hull 6 - 1 before we took on Fiorentina in Italy last season - I'm not sure what but Something happened then that changed everything - I'm certain of it. Again, although I'm not sure precisely What it was but something definitely DID happen as not only did our form collapse but Rafa’ did Nothing afterwards for nearly another 5 months about recovering it – Had he done something straight away we MIGHT have salvaged something from last season but a spell of bad form over 5 months? With intermittent comebacks even when we Did recover a little form after March began?

                  Well put simply that looooooong spell of bad form was More than enough to wreck our season, keep us out of the CL and in the end? Ensure that H & G HAD to refinance – Which in turn allowed RBS to set the terms of Broughton’s appointment, remove the powers of Sole removal of Directors And the Deciding vote on a sale from H & G and give them to their own appointment in Broughton and basically? That bad form has led almost directly to the near-certain removal of H & G in the week to come. And to answer your previous question Fernandinho – Why would the players want Rafa’ back If the same thing were to happen again? Simple – It Would Not happen again – I think the way it went is that Rafa’ realised he only needed ONE bad season with us failing to qualify for the Champion’s League to deal a fatal blow to their finances and eventually sting RBS enough to somehow ensure their removal which is of course Exactly what happened – Without the refinancing Caused by our loss of CL status which in turn was eventually removed by the bad form we had Since September 2009? We’d have been condemned to H & G remaining strong for the foreseeable future with little hope of removing them and we’d be nowhere NEAR Court right now with Liverpool FC about to finally kick them out for good.

                  Basically? Without that refinancing that occurred in March Hicks and Gillette would both be in charge here and strong as ever – Rafa’s utter failure to do Any of his usual managerial tricks that would recover our form between October 2009 – March 2010 be they tactical switches, great substitutions, surprise transfers, motivational talks or whatever sealed H & G’s fate In my view – Think about it, He just FROZE for those 5 months and that I believe was NO accident as the refinancing occurred around March time by which time it was far to late for us to challenge properly for the CL Positions and H & G WERE going to be forced to refinance and hand over powers to RBS – Put quite simply? I believe that sequence of events and the order it occurred in was NO accident and Rafa’ had quite a lot to do with it all.

                  As to what happens If Rafa’ comes back? There’s no question of such lack of inspiration, negative tactics or failure to act in the face of adversity on his own part recurring should we again encounter bad form during a season. What happened in 09/10 when Rafa’ had a still very powerful squad was done quite deliberately and with a specific end in mind in my view and there’d be NO question of it recurring should we at some future time have a Properly backed Rafa’ in charge of our team. Consider it - the players will look at Rafa’s record for FIVE seasons here before his last one If he came back and note the consistent improvement – The consistent challenges for prizes at home and abroad he delivered when backed properly and they would KNOW he’s a quality Manager (this would be along with how well Inter do in Italy as further evidence). The players I believe would have little problem with him returning – Nor would the fans as let’s face it – No-One can be worse than Roy can they? And at least we wouldn’t have relegation struggles to worry about in October under him would we?

                  As I said Fernandinho and Frenchie and as I KEEP saying – It may all be untrue but consider this and check my old posts on the subject if you don’t believe me. A few months back I posted on here that we HAD to attack Tom Hicks and George Gillett in the US and go after their business partners/Contacts/possible financial benefactors IF we wanted rid of them for good – I even provided a list of Hicks business partners and Gillette’s Business contacts – However, I was heavily ridiculed at the time especially by a poster called Schwitz/Shnitz or something – But I ask you now. How have we driven them to the very edge of being kicked out of Anfield in the past week or so? Oh yes, I do believe we’ve gone after them In the states and gone after their actual/prospective business partners and or legal partners – I couldn’t have mentioned something similar to that a little while back no? Nor was I the only one to look at that way of going about things but we were all laughed at, ridiculed or ignored at the time. Furthermore, I also said that H & G WOULD resist being forced to sell the club by taking matters to the very limit and risk rousing people enough to consider going after them in person – No-one may have done that yet but what Hicks has done by taking us to Court and with possible Administration Has led to a number of questions along the lines of “Why hasn’t he been attacked yet/Why’s no-one hired a hitman/woman etc to get him?” being asked recently and IF Hicks should somehow win next week in court? Then put it this way - I think his own personal safety really Would be in danger then so high are feelings against him now - Some woman got close enough to take a photograph of him and his worthless son in New York a few weeks back? Well it would only take one nutcase with violent tendencies or maybe a fan with a grudge to get That close and who knows what might happen and If Hicks won next week? I think there'd be NO shortage of those willing to Try and get at him that way - One Would succeed sooner or later as well - It's inevitable so hated is Tom Hicks and once someone like that gets through? All bets really would be off and who knows what might happen?

                  If you don’t believe me? Check around other forums on this for further proof as more than a few posters on some forums have expressed a desire to ahem personally remove H & G from the picture as it were. I'll conclude by saying this. My point here is that I’m fairly good at predicting things and have a decent(ish) record for spotting what might happen before it does as the above proves and all I’m saying is that the signs indicate that A) Rafa’ might JUST have been up to something with regard to getting rid of H & G in all this up to and including his removal and B) That he Might be back at some point in the near future as a result of whatever he’s doing or has done (oh and C) If Hicks isn’t VERY careful then things might get utterly out of hand for him Very soon, not that I'd be unhappy to see THAT occur). We’ll see what happens eventually of course - but I’ll just say again – We’ve very likely NOT seen the last of Rafael Benitez at Anfield and IMO he played a BIG part in us eventually getting rid of the Yanks as well. This is of course all nothing other than my own personal view but we’ll find out soon enough whether it happens or not won’t we? Anyway one thing we all Do know is that Time will tell what happens here eventually - Sooner or later? Time will tell………………..

                  NB JohnDoe Why do I write in Caps on occasion? It’s just the way I always have. Not something that’s likely to change now after all this time. It’s just the kind of writer I always have been.
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                    #69
                    I'm not saying that you're wrong or right. Just that a couple of things that support your point.

                    Gerrard suddenly straight after the summer transfer window closed stopped caring and sulked in almost every game. The first time ever that happened and something you never thought would happen. Sure he had his court case to think about but he sulked after that in almost every game. Why did he do that?

                    Rafa decided not to play Aquilani until after the March deadline had passed. Strange coincidence.......Before then it was Lucas and Masch.

                    Who knows what is right or wrong?

                    I have myself been laughed at when I pointed out a few strange things that later proved to be true. I never rule out anything in todays football.
                    Stop the cyberhate


                    from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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                      #70
                      Redshadow, are you Paul Tomkins?

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                        #71
                        Redshadow despite everything I take my hat off to you for effort ;-)

                        There are just too many indescriminant factors in your argument to make it real, to many ifs and maybies, it would make a great Grisham story to be sure...

                        again thanks for posting altho' I have a headache now from reading lol

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                          #72
                          Jebus, that post almost makes my eyes bleed.

                          I'll be honest, I kinda glossed over the last 5 or 6 paragraphs, when you start talking about Rafa's greatest long-con - this isn't 'Hustle'.

                          I don't quite know where to start. I suppose I should doff my cap for taking the time to write something down, but I think you've picked the wrong thread to go off on one in, when there is quite a decent post about Roy's tactics a few posts earlier.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by barnes10 View Post
                            Redshadow, are you Paul Tomkins?
                            *guffaw*

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                              #74
                              Barnes10 - No I'm Not Paul Tomkins - Frenchie - As you say, I know there are Many indiscriminate factors with a LOT of if's and buts in there but as I said, there is Some sort of discernable pattern behind the way we've gone since Last September if you look hard enough and I just have a feeling it ALL ties back to Rafa' somehow - He was up to something in that last season of his here, I'm almost certain of it - Just What he was doing though? Well, that could be anybody's guess................Arn - I appreciate that you may not agree with All I wrote. However, I to noticed the Gerrard sulking last season and the timing of it seemed rather odd to, since before it happened he was playing with a smile on his face. As to the Aquilani non-playing situation? That was IMO one of The red flags that all was not quite as it may seem at Liverpool last season. There were other things to, like Rafa's sudden reluctance to ACT at all when things went so wrong last season whereas before he'd been known for his innovation in tactics and his total Lack of activity in the January Transfer Window other than signing Maxi' which whilst it may have been enforced due to lack of money was Still quite strange in that he didn't appear to search for Anyone other than Maxi'. That got my attention as well and as I said, it just looks like there's To many odd factors about everything that went on last season particularly After September 2009, for it All to be a coincidence - Well in my opinion there is anyway.

                              Muddled - I think I picked exactly the Right thread to "go off on one" as you put it about the whole Rafa'/Roy situation since this thread Was a discussion of Roy's tactics for sure, but it also soon became a dispute about what to do if he continues to prove unsuited tactically as our manager. The reason I Didn't write much about Roy's tactics is because in my view there is Little To write about. I hold the man in utter contempt for the way he's taken our team, not even TRIED to learn the tactics it used before that finished it so far ahead of his beloved Fulham (along with All the other teams bar United only 2 seasons back) and tried to impose an utterly pathetic "one size fits all" policy with our tactics - His team still has players Like those Rafa' did and even his replacements have in some cases been similar but he refuses utterly to coach them even a little bit similarly to the way Rafa' once did; This is possibly out of a determination to prove Rafa' and all his other critics wrong. This is all of course effectively meaning that Roy is thereby attempting to shove the square peg that is our team into the round hole that is a tactical blueprint for a club several sizes smaller than us like say Fulham for instance; In my view - he's attempting to make us a counterattacking side who are the underdogs for Every game they play rather like Gerard Houllier once did but unlike Houllier - Roy doesn't like Any passing to be involved (Even Ged's sides passed a Little) if the recent spate of long ball barrages are anything to go by. What he is NOT doing is attempting to remind us of how to dominate games by holding onto the ball and controlling the midfield With it via rhythm, tempo and precise passing patterns as Rafa' once did. In addition, Any thought of pressing the ball when the other side has it which again we did so well under Rafa' and which made teams HATE playing us? Immediately disappeared out of the window when Roy arrived. The Only tactics he can utilise correctly or at least the only ones he's succeeded at other teams With thus far are those ugly but effective ones which worked for Fulham and other teams like them.

                              Unfortunately however, These tactics Roy's attempting to introduce are now quite openly something that Our team is NOT suited for and which we Are clearly suffering from to the extent that our previously solid defence has now utterly collapsed whilst The best goalscorer in the country rarely gets even a Chance in matches anymore never mind a goal. I despise Roy because of this and because he has effectively dismantled what was left of our squad that finished second under Rafa'. Not content with that, he's then replaced most of it with often inferior players to those he inherited. He's now trying to make them All suit Far worse tactics than those they were trained under before and has complained of results nosediving!!! As if that's not enough - Roy's also got two Major failings in my book that negate Any chance he might have of being an effective Liverpool Manager. They are as follows; A) He's Completely Refusing to acknowledge that his Own tactics (or lack of) are to blame for all that has gone wrong. You know? Tactics like "shoehorn the team into a 4-4-2 with passing midfielders as wingers to compensate for a sorry lack of true wingers whether they're suited to it or not with no midfield pressing allowed either" or "play 4-5-1 with Torres as a Holdup striker ala Heskey and 2 Holding Midfielders to spoil and allow counterattacks with No midfield passers and again, No midfield pressing" - tactics that are Really to blame for this debacle. It's not just that either with Roy; I also despise him for B) Digging his heels in and stonewalling Any attempt to change those tactics which Are quite clearly the Cause of all our problems even down to the extent that he WON'T change the utterly mad way he is currently setting out our teams personnel with Carragher often deputising at fullback and midfielders like Meireles lining up as wingers - It's madness, it's tactical bankruptcy and it's Destroying not only the team, but the squad - Roy CAN'T be allowed to go on like this and something needs to be done about him and done Now.

                              There - Does that little dissertation suit regarding the Thread's main subject of Roy's tactics? THAT is what I think of what laughably passes for Roy's 'tactics'. I'll conclude by saying that He right now, along with the Steve Mclaren of 3 years back are each Perfect examples of why English Managers are now laughing stocks in the modern game - They can't be trusted and in very Many cases (although Mclaren Might be an exception, the rest are not and are horrific tactically to) they trust the flawed English footballing philosophy to get them out of Any trouble whilst refusing to see that it is the rest of the world that is right not to learn either it or the complete lack of footballing acumen it requires. Such managers often believe if only everyone else would learn their tactics, all will be fine for them - However, it's They who are wrong to persist with such dated tactical philosophies and ideas. In short? It's clear Roy Hodgson along with most other English managers is a tactically bankrupt dinosaur and THE worst possible choice to have replaced Rafa' period - But never more so than at This time in our history. To say he needs to be gone yesterday is an understatement of immense proportions - Quite simply, he should NEVER have got the job and what's more? I think he knows that to but still he clings on which will only make his eventual (certain) failure all the more bitter for English Football When it comes and come very soon that failure most certainly Will do - Of that fact at least, you can be utterly certain.

                              Basically, whatever else may or may not change about Anfield this season? Roy Hodgson and Liverpool FC do NOT have that long left in each others company and a Parting of the Ways appears to my mind to now be all-but inevitable - Mark my words for they Will occur soon enough with regards to Roy. It's clear from a mile off what's going to happen to him in the very near future IMO - Why else do you think Mr Broughton demanded good results on the pitch the other day, then also mentioned Roy's contract release clause? A release that is clearly being lined up no? As to that contract release? It can't come quickly enough for the club if we're Going to improve and go forward - The Manager should follow the owners out of the door ASAP in my view - Before he does as much long-term damage On the pitch to the club as the Gruesome Twosome have Off it. Quite obviously, Roy Hodgson is a flawed appointment that should Never have been made and the Club NEED to rectify that mistake now before it gets any further. Let's just hope no such damage has been done When he is removed in the not-to-distant future after what will have been a very short spell here and the club can Finally start to move forward again as it deserves to after the last 3 years of turmoil.

                              In conclusion, I hope once the new owners and (almost certainly) our new manager are established and set in place that we're just left alone to recover on and off the pitch. After all isn't it about time the CRISIS (headlines and all) hurricane went and bothered someone else now? WE have suffered long enough and then some - I'd be amazed if everyone involved with our club in Any way is not completely knackered after the recent madness (and I include players who've left recently and probably saw it all first hand as well) - I know I am totally drained and utterly worn out by everything that's gone on. Anyway, let's just hope we're left in peace once the current (and fingers crossed - FINAL) bout of H & G instigated craziness is concluded in Court this week; In order to quietly rebuild our strength at our sanctuary of Anfield. God knows we really Need a few headline free, peaceful quiet years of that sort don't we? What's more, I think it's quite clear that we've EARNED them no? Well, with that in mind, they can't come soon enough now and I await the end of our ownership saga with anticipation - The sooner we can all collapse into sleep and forget about the H & G nightmare? The better and who knows? Our club might get the world of good from a couple of years of relative 'sleep' as well. As I said, the end can't come quickly enough now. The uncertainty Needs to end this week one way or another so here's hoping....................
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                                #75
                                shadow why do you feel the need to put certain words in caps.

                                it makes it hard to read.

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