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Xabi moved the ball quickly and the oppositions attention was more focused on breaking up our play than us having to break down our opponents. Perhaps this element helped Mascher and made his life easier so your point's valid. Essien is a far better player than Mascherano, he's had to deal with a career threatening injury otherwise he'd get more plaudits
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I think that's more to do wit the quality surrounding the 2 players in terms of attack. Also, when Masher had Xabi next to him, we were much less predicatable- again surrounding quality.Originally posted by Norbert Dentressangle View PostProvided he stays on the pitch of course. Mascher showed his inability to keep his focus in games v Utd. He was either sent off or received an early booking which shackled him later on. He was a cracking player in style that he played but having one player devoted to breaking up play and virtually nothing else isn't necessarily the be all and end all.
Chelsea have survived without Makelele, the most recent comparison that I can conjure, and perhaps in time we'll flourish with two decent tackling midfielders who share the defensive duties and both offer an attacking option. Mascher made us predictable and easier to play against, IMO
Dont forget, the Chavs have Essien who bosses CM, albeit a bit more progressively.
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Provided he stays on the pitch of course. Mascher showed his inability to keep his focus in games v Utd. He was either sent off or received an early booking which shackled him later on. He was a cracking player in style that he played but having one player devoted to breaking up play and virtually nothing else isn't necessarily the be all and end all.Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostFair one, but a team of fancy dans who can't defend wont get very far either. And need I remind you we've conceded three goals against Man Utd and Man City in our two toughest tests away from home this season.
If Mascherano plays in both those games, I'm telling you - the games would have been much closer.
Chelsea have survived without Makelele, the most recent comparison that I can conjure, and perhaps in time we'll flourish with two decent tackling midfielders who share the defensive duties and both offer an attacking option. Mascher made us predictable and easier to play against, IMO
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Oliver Kay
As with Alan Wiley attack last year, Fergie went over the top on Torres and has decided to blame media. And as with Wiley, mud will stick
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DTguardian
Fergie has cancelled Friday's press briefing, apparently angry with coverage of his criticism about Torres in #MUFC defeat of #LFC
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The deal was rushed through at the last minute IIRC - being as they didn't check the rules with regards to whether the deal was within PL rules it is perfectly possible they didn't read the small print in the deal with Joorabchian. It might all be bollocks but the alternative is to believe that there are managers alive who rate Mascherano as not quite as good as Hayden Mullins.Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Postwhy would west ham, or any club, buy a player they couldn't afford to play?
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why would west ham, or any club, buy a player they couldn't afford to play?
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Big RoyOriginally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Postfirst lfc manager to win all 5 opening european games though . . . .go uncle roy!
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first lfc manager to win all 5 opening european games though . . . .go uncle roy!
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Originally posted by Norbert Dentressangle View PostHe's got a pretty decent record in Europe for us after 5 games.
Played 5, won 5, 11 goals for and only two conceded.
Go Roy!!!!
Rabotnicki, Trabzonspor and Steaua - VANQUISHED!


I like how some are using Roy's European record (thus far entirely against Mickey Mouse teams) as a means of trumping him up, yet when Rafa was leading us to European Cup finals and making us the no.1 ranked team in Europe, it didn't matter and was completely meaningless cos we all want the league title.
Well now look us, no chance of either.
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Yes but as Rafa knows European trophies buy you time, but The PL is what we want *Originally posted by Norbert Dentressangle View PostHe's got a pretty decent record in Europe for us after 5 games.
Played 5, won 5, 11 goals for and only two conceded.
Go Roy!!!!
* or did till 2 cunts took over.
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He's got a pretty decent record in Europe for us after 5 games.Originally posted by SimonNo7 View PostYou could argue that had he been playing at the level he played for us, then West Ham would of probably found the money it would of cost to play him.
I do agree with this and it is perfectly natural but for anybody to actually write a manager or a player of after 5 league games is really quite ****. Fair enough if you do not like them personally, that's anybody's prerogative, but to attack them after a few games before they've had time to settle in etc that's not right, is it?
Well it's not IMO, but hey we're all different I suppose.
Played 5, won 5, 11 goals for and only two conceded.
Go Roy!!!!
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