Hansen talks more crap

[Arn]

Konchesky isn't an improvement on Insua, no way. Nothing showed so far that he is better than Insua.

I hope that he proves me and many other wrong but so far he isn't an improvement.

If Rafa would have signed players like Poulsen or Konchesky then he would have been totally slaughtered by the media as signings that isn't good enough for Liverpool FC and that he lack ambiotion.

[Suarez]

You (and others) keep stating this as though it is a fact. It's not. Many of us see no improvement at all. On the contrary.

Insua was possibly one of the worst left backs last season that ive seen at lfc. Konchesky cannot be as bad as insua was, surely?

[the rev leeroy brown]

Konchesky isn't an improvement on Insua, no way. Nothing showed so far that he is better than Insua.

I hope that he proves me and many other wrong but so far he isn't an improvement.

If Rafa would have signed players like Poulsen or Konchesky then he would have been totally slaughtered by the media as signings that isn't good enough for Liverpool FC and that he lack ambiotion.

in that one terrible comment you lose all credibility.

no-one can say insua is anywhere near the same level as konchesky.

yes we all knoe konchesly isnt a world beater and never will be but inusa had no pace, no defensive capabilites, poor marking, poor positioning, no attacking threat, committed countless fouls - he was cack.

[Neil Young]

Kenny did mention that he believed we could be challenging for the league this season, that's what I was referring to.

The thing is, with ex-players, some of them are too limited intellectually (they can't talk outside their realm of expertise). What did it serve, them having a go at Benitez when the problems weren't sporting ones? Hansen is guilty of doing the same thing.

I'm not really sure I agree with all that, Nige.

I don't agree fully with the article but I don't think it's that bad. I'm sure he knows the owners are to blame ultimately. Does every article about Liverpool have to come down to that one, inescapable fact? If so, no-one's going to bother writing, publishing or reading anything pretty soon.

I do think it's interesting though that he was quietly critical of the squad for some time. I really don't think that stems from the usual anti-Benitez agenda in sections of the media. It makes me wonder what he heard from inside the camp - I just can't help feeling there was a split in the squad somewhere along the line.

By the way, this time last year Hansen said we were in trouble and had "real problems" getting a top 4 spot. Immediately slipping into ultra-defensive mode, I wrote it off at the time as crap but he was proved right. I certainly don't doubt his goodwill towards the club or his desire for us to succeed so while I may not agree with his analysis I don't think it's fair to slag him off for having a different opinion.

[Suarez]

I really think some people have forgotten just how bad insua was last season.

[Vermilion]

Konchesky isn't an improvement on Insua, no way. Nothing showed so far that he is better than Insua.

I hope that he proves me and many other wrong but so far he isn't an improvement.

If Rafa would have signed players like Poulsen or Konchesky then he would have been totally slaughtered by the media as signings that isn't good enough for Liverpool FC and that he lack ambiotion.

[the rev leeroy brown]

I'm not really sure I agree with all that, Nige.

I don't agree fully with the article but I don't think it's that bad. I'm sure he knows the owners are to blame ultimately. Does every article about Liverpool have to come down to that one, inescapable fact? If so, no-one's going to bother writing, publishing or reading anything pretty soon.

I do think it's interesting though that he was quietly critical of the squad for some time. I really don't think that stems from the usual anti-Benitez agenda in sections of the media. It makes me wonder what he heard from inside the camp - I just can't help feeling there was a split in the squad somewhere along the line.

By the way, this time last year Hansen said we were in trouble and had "real problems" getting a top 4 spot. Immediately slipping into ultra-defensive mode, I wrote it off at the time as crap but he was proved right. I certainly don't doubt his goodwill towards the club or his desire for us to succeed so while I may not agree with his analysis I don't think it's fair to slag him off for having a different opinion.

[red g]

WTF? Those two cost over £30mill

I don't think they did mate? Babel cost 11million and I am sure someone mentioned that the Aquiliani transfer was done in instalments, in fact i think it may have been posted on here.

[Shaggy]

By the way, this time last year Hansen said we were in trouble and had "real problems" getting a top 4 spot.

Didn't he also tip us for the title, about five weeks prior?

[calvoboy]

Aquilani delivered at the end of last season. A hell of a lot quicker than Nani for example delivered for Man U.

I can say that a expensive signing is a failure if he hasn't delivered after two or three seasons, not after one. Henry needed six or seven months before he started to deliver for example.

Wouldn't go that far. He showed signs of improvement, but I wouldn't say he 'delivered'. He went from disappointing to promising, that's all.

He cost far far more than the £5-6m that you quote too, whatever the finer details of the payment structure. A £1000 telly is still £1000, even if you pay it off over a number of years.

I think you'd be surprised on Poulsen and Konchesky too - with Hodgson having worked with both, I reckon he still might have signed them if he had squillions to spend. Poulsen has impressed me so far, and whilst Konchesky is no world he is a definite improvement on Insua, despite his **** game against the Mancs.

[red g]

I really think some people have forgotten just how bad insua was last season.

think thats what most people do with there bad memories.

[the rev leeroy brown]

Aquilani cost something like £5m or £6m and we got all the Xabi money upfront. The rest of Aquilani money will of course be paid in installments.

I think you know what happened to the rest of the money. That of course means that Rafa had around £5m-£6m to spend on a Xabi replacement, not £30m or something like that.

How money clubs would have agreed to sell a top class player and only get paid £5m-£6m and the rest later? How many top class players wanted to join us at that time? How many top class players was available with less than a month left before the window closed?

I don't think they did mate? Babel cost 11million and I am sure someone mentioned that the Aquiliani transfer was done in instalments, in fact i think it may have been posted on here.

aqua did indeed cost an inital 5-6 mill upfront BUT the 18-20 mill fee comes out of the transfer budget so we did spend 20 mill on him in a way.

[Suarez]

Nope aquilani didnt cost 18m because we paid it over 10 months so therefore he was free.

Actually i seem to recall the final installment would be paid in august, and we'd have paid 16m by june.

[the rev leeroy brown]

Nope aquilani didnt cost 18m because we paid it over 10 months so therefore he was free.
Actually i seem to recall the final installment would be paid in august, and we'd have paid 16m by june.

jesus wept - if we paid it over 20 years he would still have cost us 18 mill. it was still 18 mill we had to spend and spent it on him.

[Neil Young]

Didn't he also tip us for the title, about five weeks prior?

Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't we all though?

Wishful thinking I'm afraid - at least justified at the time by the fact of our second-place finish. My point though was Hansen the first person I heard anticipating an unsuccessful season even though he shared our high hopes back in August.