I wonder if Roy has packed his bags yet, and if he is living like you do on a short holiday. Leave everything in the suitcase and take it out as and when required.
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Any news on the supposed meeting at all???Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.Comment
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madeupst Made Up St@
@leastitsbelievable RH goal difference in English football 713 games = -3414 (scored 11, conceded 3425)
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.Comment
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Originally posted by Neil Young View Postmadeupst Made Up St@
@leastitsbelievable RH goal difference in English football 713 games = -3414 (scored 11, conceded 3425)
Are we winning?Comment
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what is a made up pst
does it mean they are tapping someone on the shoulder and going pst?
or is it from the pink panther films (not with Steve Martin though)Comment
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do you get a pic with twits? i just wondered if lea's tits were believable?Originally posted by Neil Young View Postmadeupst Made Up St@
@leastitsbelievable RH goal difference in English football 713 games = -3414 (scored 11, conceded 3425)
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Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!Comment
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Talk about moving the goal posts. Which one is it Roy?
Hodgson on September 10th after losing 3-0 to City:
"I think tables are of no interest until at least 10 games have been played. After 10 games I will start worrying about the table but until then I'll worry more about performances and results."
Hodgson today:
"I'm a 38-to-55-game-a-season man and I make my judgment over that period."
Incidentally I think moving the goal posts is a tactic we should probably consider given our current form.Comment
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You mean we should aim not to get relagated and use 11th as a bonus?Comment
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No. I mean we should make our goal really small, and theirs really big.Originally posted by Spanishfly View PostComment
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**** off and ruin some other club you knobhead. Time for the fans to take action as he is clinging on like a turd sliding down the back of the toilet.Comment
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Originally posted by liverpooltj View Post
They're only jesting about messing with the goalposts man.
Hello mert.Comment
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Originally posted by Pablo1981 View PostTalk about moving the goal posts. Which one is it Roy?
Hodgson on September 10th after losing 3-0 to City:
Hodgson today:
Incidentally I think moving the goal posts is a tactic we should probably consider given our current form.
Originally posted by Willo View PostThey're only jesting about messing with the goalposts man.
Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.Comment
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10 disastrous quotes of Roy Hodgson’s LFC reign
Aaron sorts through a catalogue of Roy's worst quotes; from not knowing his players to not understanding the club or it's fans.
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Definition: A Royism is an inexplicable decision, quotation or action made by Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson. Royism’s were first detected in July 2010 and have multiplied precariously ever since. Execution of a Royism can leave the subject open to animosity and ridicule.
Below is a list of infamous Royism’s, complete with analysis on their content, meaning and effect.
No.1: Post-match reaction to a 2-0 derby defeat
Head scratching stuff.“From what I saw I thought we dominated the second half totally. I thought the shape of the team was good today; the quality of our passing and movement was good. We didn’t score goals and Everton did but I refuse to accept that we were in any way outplayed or any way inferior. I watched the performance and the second half was as good as I saw a Liverpool team play under my management that is for sure.”
This is perhaps the most notable Royism to date. In the wake of a crushing derby defeat, whereby his side were totally and utterly outplayed, Hodgson emerged to lavish praise on his team. Added to his jocular reaction upon the final whistle, this example underlined his ill-fated reign to that point. His peculiar tale-of-the-tape not only enraged Kop supporters but ignited a debate as to whether he had well and truly cracked-up. How in any way, shape or form can a 2-0 defeat at the hands of your rivals be deemed acceptable? Moreover ‘good’ as Hodgson himself put it. To describe the display as woeful would have been stupidly kind, as the reds laboured like Phil Mitchell on crack. If anything this interview was a sad indictment on himself. If this effort was truly the the best he had gifted us by October it said little for his stewardship to that point.
No. 2: On Fernando Torres being linked with Manchester United
With his pal Fergie.“I don’t think Fernando Torres will be the only striker they target, and I don’t think that we will be the only club that will be worried their striker can be targeted. I am not naive to believe there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres, I understand these things can happen.”
In at number two in this painstaking countdown was the bizarre effort to conjure-up an unthinkable transfer. Fernando Torres is to Liverpool what breasts are to Katie Price, by far the best feature of a butchered model. Given the efforts he himself had made to convince Torres to stay the previous summer, this press conference seemed all the more unusual. Kopites across the globe were still chuckling at the announcement of Wayne Rooney’s transfer request, only to be halted by their own manager forwarding Torres as an ideal replacement! Beam any true reds fan into the hot-seat when that question was posed and they would have scoffed at the nature of such a ridiculous proposal. Not Roy. Instead of defiantly announcing Torres would decamp to Old Trafford over his dead body, he simply added weight to the clamour. This again confirmed that Hodgson was far from immersed into the culture of Liverpool, as a club and city.
No. 3: Defending the indefensible
“It worked 3 decades ago Sammy.”“Unbelievable. What do you mean by that? In 35 years, how many clubs have I had? What do you mean do my methods translate? They have translated from Halmstads to Malmo, to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax, to the Swiss national team, so I find the question insulting. To suggest that because I have moved from one club to another, that the methods which have stood me in good stead for 35 years and made me one of the most respected coaches in Europe don’t suddenly work is very hard to believe.”
Oh Roy. A defiant stance against all those questioning your tactics was a bad move, particularly a day before a home defeat at the hands of Blackpool. An overly cautious set-up – whether it home or away – may well work for mid-table sides hell-bent on survival, but they do not ‘translate’ to one of Europe’s elite clubs. Liverpool should be attacking the likes of the Tangerines and Birmingham, overpowering them with their sheer class. Instead, your sides set-out to stifle and counter-attack (ever so occasionally). It may be forgivable if results were forthcoming but when a relegation battle looms it is disgraceful. Surely a coach with such experience should be capable of adapting to his environment, as opposed to cocooning himself in such a single-minded fashion. The Kop are famed for their knowledge of the game and we desperately crave a more adventurous style. Why totally ignore our views with seeming contempt?
No. 4: Where does Meireles play again?
“He (Meireles) had two training sessions and played on Thursday night and he played again on Sunday so it is very early for me to make strong judgements about where his best position is. The work we do on the training field will show me how best to use him.”
The aforementioned quote is so funny it could have come straight from the Frankie Boyle annals. So Roy sanctions a £10.5 million deal with no idea where he intends to play the arrival? Unbelievable. The initial uncertainty has been evidenced ever since, with Meireles appearing behind a lone striker, in a defensive midfield role, on the right, the left … Stick him between the sticks and he’d steal the Mr. Versatile tag from Jamie Carragher. Has Hodgson ever heard of Wikipedia? Championship Manager even? He must have had some idea as to what type of player the Portuguese was? Please God tell me he did. Meireles was this season’s marquee signing but his progress has been hampered by the manager’s indecision on where to play him. This Royism was highly embarrassing.
No. 5: Criticising the ownership protest
“Those people (protestors) aren’t making my job any easier”
To be fair to Hodgson later backtracked on this and defended those involved but his initial reservations proved how out of touch he was with an embattled and meaningful campaign. The likes of the Spirit of Shankly had dedicated years to removing the cancerous Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Nonetheless, that time and effort was dismissed as ‘unhelpful’ by the Liverpool manager of all people. It is hard to envisage his predecessor projecting such ignorance. That is because Rafa Benitez was completely woven into the fabric of all things LFC. He understood the importance of the ownership issue and what it meant to the supporters. Sometimes he went a little over the top and allowed it to interfere with his management but at least we knew he cared. This Royism would have alienated many of the hardcore support.
No. 6: Attacking Rafa Benitez
“I think you can pay an awful lot of money for poor players and you can pay not very much money for very good ones – it is all to do with how good your scouting and your eye is. There are a lot of things here that the club has got to get right. We have got a lot more expensive failures on our list than good players that we have brought in for next to nothing.”
As the previous point outlined, Rafa Benitez was a very popular figure amongst supporters. Admittedly, his final season eroded a great deal of backing for his management style but he left with the best wishes of all fans. Roy’s veiled attack on the man he succeeded then represented a grave case of misjudgement (again). Hodgson continually bemoans the lack of quality within his ranks but that is as much his fault as it is Benitez’s. Rafa did not sign Christian Poulsen or Paul Konchesky. He did not allow Alberton Aquilani (a £20 million signing) to leave on loan. In fact he left a squad that still included Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano (since sold), Pepe Reina, Aquilani, Dirk Kuyt, Glen Johnson, Carragher and Daniel Agger. Those players would walk into most Premier League sides. Add Joe Cole to the mix and again the root cause of our symptoms stem to tactics.
That group could ‘outplay’ all-comers if given an adventurous mandate. Perhaps Roy should look closer to home. His value for money jibe can also be reflected. Rafael Van Der Vaart joined Spurs for £8 million, yet Hodgson acquired Meireles and Poulsen for a combined £15 million. Also, as petite a transfer kitty he may have had the lack of enforcements in attack was scandalous. Hodgson had an entire summer to identify support for Torres but failed to attract anyone. The likes of Peter Odemwengie and Moussa Dembele went for smallish sums. This duo are by no means world beaters but they are competent enough and examples of back-up we criminally ignored.
No. 7: Criticising Glen Johnson (publicly)
“He’s the England right-back and, if he plays like that, one would expect him to come back in when he’s fit. But then he’d have to play like the England right-back and up to now, to be quite frank, he’s not performed – very often at least – to the level I’d expect of him. You would have to ask him ‘do you think you’re playing like the best right-back in the country for your club?’ If he says yes, obviously we will have to agree to differ.”
Can anyone recall Sir Alex Ferguson or Arsene Wenger openly criticising one of their key players in this manner? Managers do not do this, it is a cardinal sin. Let’s not pretend Johnson has excelled this term, he has been poor on occasion but to slate him in the media is cruel and unprofessional. A united front is paramount if a team is to achieve anything in football. Johnson would have felt like an outcast reading this and maybe even considered his long-term future. No one could blame him. Hodgson’s wording here is in a similar vain to one David Brent, casting him as a bumbling figurehead out of touch with his own staff.
No. 8: Misinterpreting United rivalry
“I’ve been involved in some big derbies in my career and you know how much they mean to the fans. It compares with Inter v Juventus. The Milan derby was a big occasion but the derby d’Italia was the real killer one, as it were.”
As everyone knows, Roy loves to remind us of his past ventures. His time in Italy is second only to his stint at Craven Cottage and this quote saw him compare derbies quite excitedly. This was a critical bugbear as Liverpool against Manchester United gazumps both of those fixtures in terms of importance. Added to his great affection for Fergie this did not bode well for the clash at Old Trafford. For me, and a lot of supporters, even his beloved Sir Alex, this match is THE biggest in the footballing calendar. I do not want to have it weighed against Inter v Juventus. I want fighting talk ahead of the crunch, not whimsical anecdotes about how Taggart is ‘not a Liverpool man.’ This again proved that Roy is out of touch with us, the supporters.
No. 9: Failing to defend Torres immediately among ‘dive’ claims
“I didn’t think it was necessary to say it because it was insulting people’s intelligence. For me, it was one of Alex’s inflammatory little digs to make his victory even sweeter and our defeat even harder and that’s part of the game.”
Better late than never Roy but I doubt Torres would have appreciated the delayed endorsement. Ferguson laid down the gauntlet for an old-fashioned war of words here, given the infuriating antics of Nani on the day. Sadly, Roy cowered away and laid low for a week. He should have defended his player outright and chastised the winger for his disgusting play-acting. Torres must have been dismayed at the lack of internal support and questioned his relationship with Hodgson from that moment.
No. 10: Fulham Comparison
“At the moment arguably one or two of the players that you are suggesting are very different to the Fulham players’ maybe are not playing any better than the Fulham players played. Journalists work on names and not on performances. You watch people play and you base your judgement on their name and not necessarily what they have actually done on the day of the game.”
Roy Hodgson talks of Fulham in the same vain as I discuss Kylie Minogue. A starry-eyed longing for the perfect union; or reunion in his case. Fulham have been mentioned so often in connection to Liverpool this term I’m half expecting to be redirected to Fulham.com whenever I connect to our official website. Here, Hodgson again critiques his squad quite unkindly. The point is our so-called superstars are no better than the ranks he abandoned last summer. With all due respect to Fulham that is a ludicrous statement. Would any of their players make it into our first team? Zoltan Gera at a push, another a push.. and a shove. Perhaps Danny Murphy in the wake of injury. Otherwise, no. A bad workman always blames his tools. As stressed earlier on in the piece Hodgson still has a top squad at his disposal but seems unaware of how to exploit it. Only when he breaks free of his own limitations will he be able to fully embrace the challenge of managing Liverpool.
For the time being he appears clueless. Expect him to deliver far more Royism’s than trophies before his tenure ends.Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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Fair points all of them. Looking at how things have worked out you can't argue with anything you've said. I mentioned to you previously that I was quite conflicted in the summer re: Rafa. I think that if he'd had real financial support from 08-09 onwards then we'd have pressed again last season but I wasn't sure that he could motivate the group of players at his disposal anymore AND in the back of my mind I had a horrible feeling that we just weren't ever going to get sold. For that reason alone I was never sure if he was the man to take us forward. Imagine if he'd managed to get the players he wanted the year Xabi left. We'd have had reasonable support for when Nando was out, could have more effectively covered the period where Gerrard was unfit etc. Also, there were the likes of Riera who he wouldn't play (for good reason) but that still mean't parts of the squad he couldn't use. In short, we were hopelessly understrength from a fitness and numbers perspective last year.Originally posted by merlboo View Post
Fast forward 4 months and, well, here we are. One thing was always clear to me. Getting rid of Rafa and replacing him with Roy was a disastrous idea. Doomed to failure. Replacing him with Pellegrini and thats a different matter entirely. In fact replacing him with any progressive manager and we'd not be in the predicament we are in now.
So to take your points. Did I want Rafa gone? I was gutted when Rafa the man left but not as much Rafa the manager. Isn't hindsight great.
Did I think it would be best for the club - Taking a manager like Rafa and replacing him with a Roy would never be best for the club, like ever. Still, I didn't think we'd be sold by now either and I think under H+G his position was between difficult and suicidal.
Do I think we are better off than last season - Operationally yes, team wise no. The minute we appointed Roy we went backwards. That was obvious at the time but you've got to support the manager until he give you reason not to. Second game of the season in Roy's case.
Do I see us finishing higher than 7th? - Not under Hodgson. If we act now we're probably still in with a shout at 3rd or 4th though.
The thing with Rafa is this. We'd lose a game last year, and we'd have been awful but maybe not bad enough to get beat. Not good enough to win either though. The squad was weaker but well organised and you always felt we should be knocking teams over. Under Roy I think the results haven't lied (except for Wigan where we deserved to lose).
Haven't really answered your question have I. I'm not sure we'd have won many more with Rafa this year to date but we'd have certainly lost less. But in the summer, while not thinking it was the right decision, I can't lie and say i thought his leaving to be a bad decision. The way it was conducted was abysmal but I didn't think we'd possibly ever recruit Roy. And regardless of his smaller squad filling deals I trusted Rafa to do the right thing with his big signings. If it had become clear that by January H+G would be gone then my perspective would have been entirely different.
On you're dislike of Newcastle fans. Well I live among them and share your views. They've changed somewhat over the last few years though. Still topless in the snow but with added realism
(And it's Haway by the way)
A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.Comment
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