Pack your bags Roy

[danperkins]

I thought Konchesky was quite high up the pitch quite often yesterday in the second half.

i think The Konch is ok going forward, his problem is he can't run much like Insua actually, and his biggest weakness IMO is that he stands off wingers for some apparent reason and gives them tie to get crosses in. His defending is far worse than his attacking, he actually has a decent left peg on him.

[danperkins]

That's the main reason Helios and I like him.

[tsb]

A huge number of journalists are being made to look extremely foolish.

Just tweeted him with that link

Heaven forbid actual LFC fans knowing better than the media

[IJM]

Our best game this season was against Arsenal. We looked dangerous attacking before Cole went off and our defending when we were down to ten men was text book.

Since then it's all gone to pot. Every game since we have played far too narrow, far too deep, we're stretched resulting in defence being disjointed from midfield being disjointed from attack. Rafa knew how to play a 4-2-3-1; everyone was connected and the lone striker was never actually isolated. As a respected football man it's surprising that Hodgson doesn't seem to have a clue how to play.

The basics of defending aren't there anymore which is all the more dangerous when we are playing off the 18 yard line. We struggle to play from the back and through the mid-field because we are too stretched. We end up having to play long balls which are too easily read and intercepted. Torres is getting no service. He ends up having to go wide and/or play deep resulting in having no-one in the danger area.

In short, the basics are all wrong.

I've been proud that Liverpool have always given our managers decent runs to prove themselves. But I fear that under these circumstances, it will be far too damaging to keep Hodgson on in the hope he might eventually get it right. I don't want us to turn into a "sacking" club, but he could be the first Liverpool manager in decades to be genuinely dismissed (as opposed to one of these "mutual consent" deals).

I don't want to trust him with whatever turnaround budget we may have available in the January transfer window. Bringing in a new top class manager in the next couple of weeks will give him two months to familiarise himself with our squad and work out who to buy in Jan. The only question is who.

[BigChief]

Bringing in a new top class manager in the next couple of weeks will give him two months to familiarise himself with our squad and work out who to buy in Jan. The only question is who.

Answer=Pellegrini (out of work), Deschamp (will never get such a chance again to manage a big club with money) or Hiddink (can't see it as Henry fancies younger men, ooer).

[Muddled]

i think The Konch is ok going forward, his problem is he can't run much like Insua actually, and his biggest weakness IMO is that he stands off wingers for some apparent reason and gives them tie to get crosses in. His defending is far worse than his attacking, he actually has a decent left peg on him.

That wild swing of his right peg at towards the end of the game yesterday ... well, words still fail me now.

Our left back situation needed addressing in the summer, it still needs addressing now. Much like the defensive midfield position and our lack of options upfront.

As Operation said earlier, we're talking about who's ****ter.

[Redspin]

Roy delusions are reminding me of some of the baffling stuff Rafa used to say when we lost or got outplayed last season.

Roy: We played well, weren't outplayed and were not inferior

Rafa: We created chances,the players worked hard and showed commitment.

Managers say some strange **** when under pressure.

The main difference being that the useless Hodgson has actually made the team the worst in half a century and a laughing stock, so please cease this pointless linking of the two managers as if they were two peas in a pod

[DKdan]

I was just wondering...

Does anywone know how the tag cloud on .tv is generated?

Is it the most typed words in the search box?

Wouldn't it be ace if we could make it say: "Sack Roy Now"

That would be AWESOME!

[Redspin]

Every single time. It's a no-contest, Konchesky is ****ing WANK.

See how easily that Coleman went past him yesterday for the first goal? Criminal. People hung Insua out to dry for that stuff but at least he contributed plenty going forward. Konchesky is just pure ****e, always has been.

Agree 100%. Coleman didn't even have to sprint past him or dribble. He merely walked past him as if he wasn't there. Shockingly bad full-back play. Another one of Hodgson's successful transfer swoops. Insua seems like Carlos Alberto in comparison with the useless Konchesky

[Chris]

Found this on YNWA. It's how many games managers are currently going without a win away from home.

Ancelotti - 2.
Mancini - 0.
Wenger - 2.
Ferguson - 4.
Redknapp - 0.
Di Matteo - 1.
Coyle - 3.
Houllier - 1.
Pulis - 1.
Holloway - 0.
Moyes - 0.
Hughes - 11
Martinez - 2.
Hughton - 1.
Bruce - 4.
Allardyce - 1.
Mcleish - 9.
McCarthy - 7
Hodgson - 22
Grant - 9

Incredible stats, and "he was only at Fulham" doesnt really wash either when Holloway already has 3 away wins, West Brom won at Arsenal, Wigan at Spurs etc, its not that difficult to win 1 away match though evidently it is for our manager.

[SimonNo7]

I have to admit that I was one of the people that thaought Roy was a OK appointment.
I thought he`d bring some calmness to the squad and do a decent job until new owners came in. I didn`t expect us to be in the top four at this point, at least somewhere within strikeing distance.
He seems totally lost, and way out of his depth. It looks like he doesn`t know how to set up the team, and what the players strengths and weaknesses are.
I`m very surprised that he has done as badly as he has, but with new owners it`s time to start building fro scracth. Write Roy off as a mistake, and get in someone that will have the potential to stay at the club for a long time.

i have to admit that I too was one of the people that thought Roy's appointment would be good for us but following Sunday (where I, like a lot of other's on here wasn't surprised by the score or by how un-upset I was with the score) I cannot help but change my mind and say he has to go as soon as possible.

I could half accept previous matches, even the Blackpool result, what with all that was hanging over the club (i'm sure it wasn't a nice place to work even if you are a multi-millionaire footballer) and then playing against a team that couldn't believe they were in the Premiership and with nothing to lose.

But following the momentous week we have just been through and the fact that we were playing the Blue****e and he still couldn't get them motivated, well that's enough for me. It's not the Liverpool way but then being in the relegation places is also not the Liverpool way.

In a slight defence of Roy, I do have to say the players have to take a hell of a lot of the blame as well. Their lack of movement this season and last is just not acceptable and does make me think that the majority of our squad are quite simply not good enough and over-rated by us.

[Kenneth]

Agree 100%. Coleman didn't even have to sprint past him or dribble. He merely walked past him as if he wasn't there. Shockingly bad full-back play. Another one of Hodgson's successful transfer swoops. Insua seems like Carlos Alberto in comparison with the useless Konchesky

that was said in the match thread and it's clearly bollocks. Look at it again and tell me Coleman was walking

[Shaggy]

Agree 100%. Coleman didn't even have to sprint past him or dribble. He merely walked past him as if he wasn't there. Shockingly bad full-back play. Another one of Hodgson's successful transfer swoops. Insua seems like Carlos Alberto in comparison with the useless Konchesky

Yep. And Coleman cost £60,000 and he made a mug of Konchesky.

Found this on YNWA. It's how many games managers are currently going without a win away from home.

Ancelotti - 2.
Mancini - 0.
Wenger - 2.
Ferguson - 4.
Redknapp - 0.
Di Matteo - 1.
Coyle - 3.
Houllier - 1.
Pulis - 1.
Holloway - 0.
Moyes - 0.
Hughes - 11
Martinez - 2.
Hughton - 1.
Bruce - 4.
Allardyce - 1.
Mcleish - 9.
McCarthy - 7
Hodgson - 22
Grant - 9

[SimonNo7]

-----------------------Reina
Johnson------????--------------Agger---------????
---------------Meireles----????-------------------
------????-------------Gerrard-------Cole------
------------------------Torres---------------

Six players in the starting XI that is top class with the right manager(pass and move). So five top class players needed to get the world class starting XI we need. Players like Lucas and Kuyt can be used as backups. Now we have 13 players. So we need to sign up four, five more players that isn't top class but still need to be good enough to make an impact when needed to. The rest of the squad can be filled up with youngsters like Shelvey, Eccleston, Pacheco, Kelly and so on.

So five top class players and four five very good players. That is what we need IMO.

Can't disagree with that assumption. I'm not a fan of either Kuyt or Lucas but would definitely keep them as backups.

[Kenneth]

Yep. And Coleman cost £60,000 and he made a mug of Konchesky.

To make things worse, we've got another fullback on the other side who is prone to the same ability to be mugged. And he cost us £17million quid. It's really bad when the greek is pretty much out best defender this year.