Pack your bags Roy

[Exiled_red]

It wont be achieveable for long though - City will pick up their form sooner or later, we needed to take at least 4 points from the last 2 games. And we dont have 'easier' games forever, the harder ones are coming up soon.

Hodgson is ****ing us up bigtime.

I think the 3 games after West Ham are key to our season:
West Ham (H)
Tottenham (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Newcastle (A)

Those three teams are just above us and picking up a good amount of points from those games will lift us into a much more comfortable position and can provide a foundation to challenge for the top 4. If we don't do well in those games we're in deep trouble IMO.

Unfortunately I have little confidence in us doing well in those games if Hodgson is still in charge!

[Arn]

I won't rule out anything a player may do to get his wish through. You look at a Liverpool legend like Gerrard knowing that he love the club to bits but then remember the way he acted on the pitch last season probably only to get rid of Rafa. Then you know that you can't rule anything out.

When a player that we know love the club is prepared to sulk on the pitch week in week out then you also know that something is very very wrong.

Some people show that they love the club in strange ways.

Carragher isn't any better IMO.

“The manager is the boss and we should be trying to impress him, not the other way around.”

Maybe you should read that Carra, you said it yourself and it is so true. It's just sad that you don't give a **** about it yourself if it doesn't suit you.

[dww]

I won't rule out anything a player may do to get his wish through. You look at a Liverpool legend like Gerrard knowing that he love the club to bits but then remember the way he acted on the pitch last season probably only to get rid of Rafa. Then you know that you can't rule anything out.

The problem is that statements like that really are a massive assumption. It becomes almost a circular argument when you rest so much of your case on your interpretation of players motivations for actions which can have many different interpretations.

[Arn]

The problem is that statements like that really are a massive assumption. It becomes almost a circular argument when you rest so much of your case on your interpretation of players motivations for actions which can have many different interpretations.

Well, Gerrard is backing Roy all the way and he didn't back Rafa at all.

I don't see anything wrong with him backing Roy week in week out. The problem is that he didn't do it last season.

The Captain should always come out and back the manager in the media. He should back Roy and he should have backed Rafa.

[danperkins]

I won't rule out anything a player may do to get his wish through. You look at a Liverpool legend like Gerrard knowing that he love the club to bits but then remember the way he acted on the pitch last season probably only to get rid of Rafa. Then you know that you can't rule anything out.

When a player that we know love the club is prepared to sulk on the pitch week in week out then you also know that something is very very wrong.

Some people show that they love the club in strange ways.

Carragher isn't any better IMO.


Maybe you should read that Carra, you said it yourself and it is so true. It's just sad that you don't give a **** about it yourself if it doesn't suit you.

Em what!? Well either that or he was off form? Massive assumption to suit your opinions. So your saying Stevie purposely sabotaged our season just to get Rafa the sack? Mate seriously this agenda driven nonsense is getting really tiresome.

[red g]

Well, Gerrard is backing Roy all the way and he didn't back Rafa at all.

I don't see anything wrong with him backing Roy week in week out. The problem is that he didn't do it last season.

The Captain should always come out and back the manager in the media. He should back Roy and he should have backed Rafa.

sorry mate disagree. There are times when the captain can see things going the wrong way and should speak out, specially if the manager is ignoring him.

Gerrard did back Rafa in the early days for sure. just not the latter ones.

[Lecter]

For someone who's been in the company of those previously mentioned then i'm very much speaking from experience

I didn't want my sentiments to come across as deliberate sabotage as that wasn't my intention

The point i attempted to make was he may be vulnerable to people who are close to him and don't understand our traditions and principals

'' The Liverpool Way ''... if you like

Allied to this, a backdrop of Media Witchhunting, A weak and impressionable CEO, A new contract wrangle along with other things and a picture emerges with Benitez

He may of also thought Hodgson would have been a better option

Thats something , if he's been complicit to, he'll have to burden



Thats all

It seems clear to me that Carragher had a bee in his bonnet about Rafa and that has obviously spread to his family who would be privvy to his thoughts

They have made this clear at away matches and it appears Carragher has been in one way or another complicit in the removal of Rafa and appointment of Roy

He will have to stand up and face criticism over that because thats life, frankly I think he was badly wrong at the very least over the apponitment of Roy which is unforgiveable imo

I think his family being bluenoses in the past is irrelevant, even if they were reds they wouldnt have acted any differently. Its the familyline they are towing so to speak rather than any preconceived ideals

[Leyton388]

Great so NESV are backing Roy and not spending in January? Great. We all know a quick fix is not on the cards but the need to strengthen the squad is there for all too see. This is massively irritating. Looks like we are stuck with Roy Chuckle for a while yet

[red g]

Great so NESV are backing Roy and not spending in January? Great. We all know a quick fix is not on the cards but the need to strengthen the squad is there for all too see. This is massively irritating. Looks like we are stuck with Roy Chuckle for a while yet

Why do people believe everything in the media when its negative? but if its positive its bull****!!!

[danperkins]

Why do people believe everything in the media when its negative? but if its positive its bull****!!!

thats so true.

[Kenneth]

Why do people believe everything in the media when its negative? but if its positive its bull****!!!

Because it was said by Henry in an interview, with quotes.

[CJ]

generally i think most people agree the best signings tend to be in the summer. Not excursively but in the main it is true.

also in the past people have said rather than buy someone who isnt good enough save the money till you can get the right targets.

This is all out of the window for some people because we have a crap manager.

[Craig_H]

I think the 3 games after West Ham are key to our season:
West Ham (H)
Tottenham (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Newcastle (A)

If Hodgson stays, the maximum i can see out of those games is 5 points.

[Craig_H]

Well, Gerrard is backing Roy all the way and he didn't back Rafa at all.

I don't see anything wrong with him backing Roy week in week out. The problem is that he didn't do it last season.

The Captain should always come out and back the manager in the media. He should back Roy and he should have backed Rafa.

I'm sure you'll find that, when Rafa had just come to LFC, Stevie was backing him to the hilt.

Players will always back a new manager, it's the done thing. It's of no relevance whatsoever that Stevie is backing the new manager in his first season, when he 'didnt back' the last manager in his last season.

[CJ]

If Hodgson stays, the maximum i can see out of those games is 5 points.

who do you think we will beat out of those ?