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    Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
    Anyone who thinks Carragher is a 'terrible footballer' and basically has no useful attributes at all, is either utterly clueless, or has a serious agenda.

    In your case, he's also someone who used to post on here under a different username.
    It seems to me you have a serious agenda with anybody that doesn't rate Carragher; are you his dad or something? Were you in the boozer after the Lille game calling Rafa a Fat Spanish *******?

    Have you heard anymore snippets from Cole's mates?

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      I dont have any agendas, i think Carra's past his best, but is still probably the best option we have to partner Agger. He still retains excellent organisational skills, he's still a solid performer who defends like his life depends on it and still has good positional sense and defensive awareness.

      Do i think he was worth a £90k 2-year contract? No.

      Do i go around using hyperbolic nonsense like 'he is a terrible footballer' ? No. Because i'm not an agenda-driven dickhead.

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        Daily Post have compiled all the Hodgson-isms and given their comments below

        OF all the voices who have argued for a change of management at Anfield this season one man has consistently made the most compelling case – Roy Hodgson.
        There has never have been a Liverpool boss as universally disliked by supporters as the Londoner.
        But it’s not just the regressive tactics, awful signings (Christian Poulsen and Paul Konchesky) and pitiful away form (six defeats in nine games with a goal difference of -10) that has turned the Kop against him.
        Liverpool supporters have become accustomed to their managers being equally skilled as orators, a trend begun by the great Bill Shankly. Even the quieter men among the club’s roll call of bosses like Bob Paisley could be relied upon for cutting sound bites.
        Not Hodgson. Barely a press conference goes by without the former UAE coach embarrassing himself and the club, alienating a player or enraging fans.
        Here is a collection of the worst efforts of his first – and hopefully only – six months in charge:

        I preferred to put my weight behind David Ngog and Ryan Babel, who's never really been given a proper chance at centre-forward at the club. I'm hoping that between now and Christmas we'll have ample quality to see us through that period.
        On not buying another striker

        A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel ‘doing a job’ up front when they are primarily wide players.
        Hodgson changes his mind a month later.

        They'll be a formidable challenge – there's no question about that.
        On Carling Cup opponents, struggling league Two side Northampton

        I thought we did quite well when (Northampton) they took the lead in the extra time and we threw caution to the wind it gave us the equaliser.
        Hodgson uses the words ‘throw caution to the wind’ about playing a League Two side. At Anfield.

        That was as good as we have played all season..... To get a result here – against Everton – would have been Utopia.
        After the wretched loss to Everton

        I know Sir Alex (Ferguson) is not really a Liverpool man so I’m a bit concerned about my excellent relationship with him.
        I sincerely hope he forgives me for moving north and hopefully we can have a glass of wine together, maybe in secret.
        Hodgson endears himself to Liverpool fans everywhere

        I prefer to talk about the game and talk about issues that interest me. Mr Ferguson is entitled to any opinion he wants to have but I'm not going to come here and say I agree or disagree.
        Hodgson refuses to defend Fernando Torres against accusations of cheating

        I understand (Frank) Rijkaard has just been sacked from Galatasaray – he must be a great manager to have been sacked by Galatasaray.
        'Nice guy' Roy on the Champions League and La Liga winning manager

        You would have to ask (Glen Johnson) 'do you think you're playing at top form and are you playing like the best right-back in the country for your club?' If he says yes, obviously we will have to agree to differ and if he says no, then you'd have to ask the question 'why not?
        Showing his man-management skills

        The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club.
        Criticising the fans’ protest against the club’s former owners

        I was disappointed – and I've told him this – that he – Dalglish – applied for the job in the summer because I don't think that was ever really going to happen for him.
        Putting Liverpool legend Dalglish in his place, a man who has won more trophies than Hodgson has Premier League away games in his entire time in England

        I've been involved in some big derbies in my career and you know how much they mean to the fans.... I didn't like losing in those games, which I did quite often. I did poorly so it would be nice to change that.
        Hodgson shows he’s the man for the big occasion before losing 3-2 to Manchester United.

        He’s a quality player and we will be working hard on our tactics to make sure he doesn’t dominate the game.
        No, not Lionel Messi, rather Fulham’s Danny Murphy, who was sent packing by Liverpool six years ago.

        I think it would be a sad day for football and for Liverpool if someone who had been brought in with the pomp and circumstance, and the money it took them to release me from my previous contract, and being feted as one of England's best managers – if after eight games people are deciding this guy has got to go
        Showing his modest side.

        Are you from Denmark? (No, Norway replied the journalist) Ah, two countries I never want to work in again.
        Insulting a Norweigian journalist and a large part of Liverpool’s fan base.

        We have got a lot more expensive failures on our list than good players that we have brought in for next to nothing.
        Having a dig at Champions League winning former Reds boss Rafa Benitez and his transfer record

        What do you mean do my methods translate? They have translated from Halmstad to Malmo to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax to the Swiss national team. So I find the question insulting. To suggest that, because I have moved from one club to another, that the methods which have stood me in good stead for 35 years and made me one of the most respected coaches in Europe don’t suddenly work, is very hard to believe.
        Reeling off some of the massive clubs he’s managed. Not so much a who’s who of European football as a who are they?

        Today was a famous victory
        No, not Liverpool’s win in Istanbul but a 1-0 triumph over Bolton at the Reebok.


        There aren't many quality left-backs around in the world, never mind in England – so to find an English one ( Paul Konchesky) who can go straight into the team without any adjustment problems is a big advantage.
        Hodgson, who sold Roberto Carlos to Real Madrid while manager of Inter Milan, knows a good left back when he sees one.


        Christian (Poulsen) is an all-round player. He is capable of scoring goals, a good passer of the ball and a good defender.
        After paying £4.5m on the 30-year-old plodder.

        He's not that bad on the ball.
        After seeing him play.

        It is very early for me to make very strong judgements about where his best position is.
        Hodgson shows the depth of his research on £11.5m signing Raul Meireles, who has played his entire career in central midfield. Until he came to Anfield.

        I don't understand questions about Liverpool and Fulham players being different types
        Who said Hodgson doesn’t grasp how big a club Liverpool is?

        I've had several bad experiences. Even at Halmstad in the 70s, in the year we won our second championship, it took until the second half of the season to win our first game away and that broke a record going back two seasons. We went over two seasons without winning an away game.
        On his wretched away form throughout his career.

        Fans make their frustrations felt every time we lose, but unfortunately they may have to do that a few more times, because I can't see us going through a season winning every game.
        Roy promises the good times are going to roll again after the 2-0 defeat to Stoke

        I don't know where the stories came from that Gerrard would be fit for Newcastle.
        From your Head of Sports Medicine Dr Peter Brukner, Roy.

        It's not as if he'll be playing with a bunch of also-rans. I'm not asking him to play in the reserves.
        Asking Torres to play against Utrecht while also motivating his reserves

        I thought it would be a nice game for him (Torres) and a chance for him to get his confidence back. But I also had a talk to our fitness people and they made me see sense that it wasn't the wisest thing to do.
        Revealing who picks the team.

        I think we will cross that bridge when we come to it... I am not naive to believe there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres, I understand these things can happen
        Issuing a stern hands-off Torres warning to pal Ferguson. Well, kind of.

        When it was mooted the club wanted me for the job I made it clear to Kenny I wanted him on board and it wouldn’t be like it was with Benitez where he’d be here in name only. It wouldn’t be the case that Kenny would be never be allowed to step foot into Melwood.
        Having another dig at the Spaniard, a claim which was exposed as a lie by the Champions League winning manager

        He's not so much a player I can really take responsibility for. I'd have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than for people like [Christian] Poulsen, [Raul] Meireles and [Paul] Konchesky, who are players I was quite happy to bring to the club.
        Washing his hands of Joe Cole a week before the former Chelsea midfielder earns Liverpool a 2-1 victory over Bolton

        Ever since I came here, the famous Anfield support hasn't really been there.There was the problem with the owners and Kenny being so popular and the job going to me, so I have had to live with that. I have to hope the fans will become supporters because we need support. We are not deliberately losing games.
        Roy puts the final nail in his coffin

        It's just when you read them all together you cannot fathom how he has got away with it for so long.

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          Originally posted by GorbyPeacePrize View Post
          It seems to me you have a serious agenda with anybody that doesn't rate Carragher; are you his dad or something? Were you in the boozer after the Lille game calling Rafa a Fat Spanish *******?

          Have you heard anymore snippets from Cole's mates?
          Do tell...

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            Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
            Do tell...
            He has **** all to tell, it's all baseless agenda-driven bollocks.

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              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
              Daily Post have compiled all the Hodgson-isms and given their comments below



              http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-new...578-27926316/?
              Just puts it all into perspective

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                Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
                Do tell...
                I thought it was common knowledge; a pissed up Carragher's dad and his cronies giving Rafa down the banks after the Lille game in the boozer.

                Didn't you hear about Carragher ringing up feeble Paul Tomkins to 'put him straight’ vis-à-vis Tomkins musings on Carragher’s family campaigning to get Rafa out?

                And with Rafa nicely out of the frame, Carragher bags himself a tasty contract extension hours before the takeover. Marvellous.
                Last edited by GorbyPeacePrize; 03-01-11, 08:20 PM.

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                  Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                  He has **** all to tell, it's all baseless agenda-driven bollocks.
                  I hope you've consulted Joe Cole's mates about that.

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                    Good work Miss Marple.

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                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      I dont have any agendas, i think Carra's past his best, but is still probably the best option we have to partner Agger. He still retains excellent organisational skills, he's still a solid performer who defends like his life depends on it and still has good positional sense and defensive awareness.

                      Do i think he was worth a £90k 2-year contract? No.

                      Do i go around using hyperbolic nonsense like 'he is a terrible footballer' ? No. Because i'm not an agenda-driven dickhead.
                      Can I just point out that Carragher is a terrible footballer? I thank you

                      He has the turning circle of an ocean liner, is as slow as continental drift and has the ball control of Carlton Palmer

                      He is very good at shouting though. Hope this helps

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                        Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                        Can I just point out that Carragher is a terrible footballer? I thank you

                        He has the turning circle of an ocean liner, is as slow as continental drift and has the ball control of Carlton Palmer

                        He is very good at shouting though. Hope this helps
                        It's not just his poor technical ability that is a problem; his abject lack of pace forces the whole team back toward our own penalty box, making the game harder for us and easier for the opposition. Also, because he is so slow, he can't cover for an attacking right back, thus limiting us even more.

                        Soto is also slow but he can compensate with at least having some aerial dominance - an important attribute for a centreback. What can Carragher compensate with? Shouting and pointing? The mythical 'organisational skills'?

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                          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                          Daily Post have compiled all the Hodgson-isms and given their comments below



                          http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-new...578-27926316/?
                          Holy Mother of God.

                          FSG please get rid of this utter clown with his flaky face like a plate of dried anchovies.

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                            Originally posted by GorbyPeacePrize View Post
                            It's not just his poor technical ability that is a problem; his abject lack of pace forces the whole team back toward our own penalty box, making the game harder for us and easier for the opposition. Also, because he is so slow, he can't cover for an attacking right back, thus limiting us even more.

                            Soto is also slow but he can compensate with at least having some aerial dominance - an important attribute for a centreback. What can Carragher compensate with? Shouting and pointing? The mythical 'organisational skills'?
                            maybe, just maybe the tactics and formation also contribute to this as well?

                            Not sure why there seem to be agenda's against our players

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                              Originally posted by GorbyPeacePrize View Post
                              It's not just his poor technical ability that is a problem; his abject lack of pace forces the whole team back toward our own penalty box, making the game harder for us and easier for the opposition. Also, because he is so slow, he can't cover for an attacking right back, thus limiting us even more.

                              Soto is also slow but he can compensate with at least having some aerial dominance - an important attribute for a centreback. What can Carragher compensate with? Shouting and pointing? The mythical 'organisational skills'?
                              why dont you give it a rest gimp boy. Im sick to ****ing death of your childish and clueless ramblings about a player who a lot of people still highly rate. He is still regarded as one of the best defenders in the country.
                              That's my new book. 'Shut the **** Up, by Dr. Denis Leary'. Patients come in. 'Doctor I-' Shut the **** up! NEXT!! 'Doctor, I've got this-' SHUT THE **** UP!! NEXT! 'He made me feel so much better. He just told me to shut the **** up. Nobody ever told me that before!'
                              Denis Leary - 1992


                              Formally known as Carras_boot on ****talk.

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                                [QUOTE=murder_inc;1830588]why dont you give it a rest gimp boy.QUOTE]

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