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Originally posted by the rev leeroy brownView Post
i have been one of the most staunch supporters of roy so far this season as i beleive he should have been given adequate time to get it right . . . . . but after yet another woefull performance and his comments "we dominated" and "i was happy" with yet another spineless and passionless performance ( the second half we dominated cause they had a 2 goal lead and were never really trouble by our attacks - cole/maxi/stye/lucas/raul - all 5 players wanted to play central and at one point you could have trown a beach towel over them all!!!!!!!! ) has me changing my mind. he cannot get the players fired up and with NESV having no problems with sacking managers ( done it in past i hear ) ROY MUST GO NOW!!!
For what it's worth I did always admire how much you were willing to support him
Found this- I know its a dodgy source but im praying...
Liverpool are reportedly preparing the ground for a move to bring in Galatasaray Manager Frank Rijkaard to replace under fire Anfield boss Roy Hodgson. The club’s new owners are ready to give the current Liverpool boss until January to turn things around but will then look to bring in the former Barcelona boss ahead of the re-opening of the transfer window.
The 48 year old former Ajax and AC Milan playing legend has not had the best of times in Turkey and after taking his side to a disappointing third placed finish last term has seen his Istanbul outfit slump to an even worse start this time around.
The signs are that the Dutchman is ready to leave Galatasaray and would jump at a high profile job and a move to Liverpool would be a useful way to reignite a managerial career that already has some notable achievements. During his five year reign at the Nou Camp he led the Catalan giants to two La Liga titles and the 2006 Champions League title.
The attack minded manager would be a marked contrast to the more defensive pragmatic approach employed by Roy Hodgson who has presided over a truly woeful start to the Premier League campaign which leaves Liverpool second from bottom in the Premier League table.
It seems that the new owner John W.Henry is willing to take the financial hit that would come from the termination of Hodgson’s contract which is believed would set the club back £3m.
I've seen cole stick to the left for Chelsea and I've seen maxi stick to the right for Liverpool in the past. The fact they come inside is clearly Hodgsons idea.
The problem is that when they get it inside you know their next pass is going inside again because hodgson likes his full backs to sit deep. On the odd occasion they did get forward yesterday they were of course useless with their delivery.
Martin kelly is a good defender and has a good delivery on him - why the hell was he on the bench yesterday instead of starting at rb?
Would be happy with Rijkaard who would look to play attacking football. He was the one who built up the Barca team for Pep and I'd be delighted if he came in.
Personally, I'd be delighted if we appointed Kenny on a short term basis until January, and if he did well then I'd keep him on. If he fails at least we know and there would be no ex manager in the background putting pressure on a new man.
I wouldn't mind Rijkaard, think I would rather Kenny in the interim though...
Even Roy could have managed Barcelona to the title in those years, unstoppable and lovely to watch they were, don't know how much of that was down to Rijkaard though...
I think getting Kenny in would be a kick up the arse to the players. He is one of us, he knows the club inside out and will have the full and utmost respect of the players. I think that is exactly what we need at the moment.
I don't buy the notion that our squad is not good enough. We have a good first XI, not a bad second XI either. Sure we need some new players, but we can be extremely competitive against any team with what we have now.
I think Raul Meireles has added some quality to our midfield, even though he is a bit lightweight at the moment, he looked the only one that gave a **** that we were losing yesterday... With a good manager employing the right tactics, we could easily be in the top 4...
what is promising is that the owners are already suggesting much is wrong with the club, and that no committment to how much "time" Roy H will get also indiciative that he probably only has a handful of games to turn this around.
By next Sunday we could quite easily be bottom of the league and Christmas is not that far away...
Jacques Brel is alive and well and playing at Anfield
Barcelona flattered Rijkaard, he's not LFC material IMO. Besides caughtoffside talks utter balls.
How is he doing in Turkey? Does anyone on here know?
The thing is that in the short term at least we need a pragmatic manager. One of the big flaws in Roy's reign so far has seemed to be his insistence on fitting the players we have into the system he uses without adapting his policies at all. Even when he relents and plays Torres and Gerrard as the furthest forward players it feels like something forced rather than something he has thought about and integrated into the team. Someone like Rijkaard, albeit with a very different style, would seem to be similarly dogmatic in approach. It isn't immediately obvious that we have the players to play his way to me.
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
How is he doing in Turkey? Does anyone on here know?
The thing is that in the short term at least we need a pragmatic manager. One of the big flaws in Roy's reign so far has seemed to be his insistence on fitting the players we have into the system he uses without adapting his policies at all. Even when he relents and plays Torres and Gerrard as the furthest forward players it feels like something forced rather than something he has thought about and integrated into the team. Someone like Rijkaard, albeit with a very different style, would seem to be similarly dogmatic in approach. It isn't immediately obvious that we have the players to play his way to me.
He's not doing well.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
One thing on Meireles. At one point yesterday he got barged to the floor by Yakubu. After that challenge he seemed to keep a slight distance between himself and Yakubu. He would jog alongside him, but would leave it to others to put a challenge in.
I think Meireles will prove a good player for us, but I think he bottled it then.
According to Roy, yesterday's 2nd half performance was the best he'd seen since he took over. That says it all really. The man's clearly delusional. Do the honourable thing Roy and go now.
I'm one of the lucky ones I started supporting Liverpool under Shanks so I've been part of the glory times, this current team is the worst I have ever had the misfortune to watch, even Souey's reign wasn't this bad and that was pretty grim( he was one helluva player though ) I just want us to get back to playing with some style and passion and pride in Liverpool Football Club. These are what the manager should be hammering into the players, and should have some pride and passion himself and above all honesty, we as fans deserve that at the very least.
Shanks said something like to be a Liverpool player they had to have the skill and the will to run through a brick wall for the club. That's the attitude we need now.
YNWA
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