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    #76
    Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
    I think we need a Legend-o-meter to see who has more of a right to say what over who.


    I'm tired of all the ex players that think that they are some kind of gods and think that they can get away with everything.

    One of the main reasons to why Rafa is so respected is that he really is one of us fans. He won't talk **** about someone if he isn't forced to do it.

    He know when he should shut it and when to talk and what he should talk about.

    Some of our ex players now see Roy struggle and must blame someone and that someone is Rafa. They can't blame an English manager can they. So they will come out with made up stories just to back Roy and blame the foreigner.
    Stop the cyberhate


    from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

    Susan Black

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      #77
      Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
      You earn respect but it easily can be undone, it's not irreversible.
      Yesssss...and the Legend-o-meter would take all this into account.

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        #78
        Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post


        tiresome. how dare someone have an opionion different to you.

        IMO rush is a legend and im not gonna call him all the names under the sun for having his own opinion.
        Well, Rushies's wasn't a very valid 'opinion' was it?
        Are we winning?

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          #79
          Originally posted by Arn View Post
          Bull****.

          Legends don't have the right to lie just because they are legends. Maybe Rafa then would come out and say that Rush is a Scum or something like that and just because he is a legend he is allowed to do it.

          As I said. BULL****.


          Depends if you believe Rafa is a LFC legend, I don't. Rush has a lot more to back up his status.

          "I can guarantee we will finish fourth" no. BULL****.

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            #80
            Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
            Depends if you believe Rafa is a LFC legend, I don't. Rush has a lot more to back up his status.

            "I can guarantee we will finish fourth" no. BULL****.
            Well, Rush tried himself at football management and it was a disaster if my memory serves me right, so things have to be compared with the proper context.

            Yes Rush is a legend, but as I said, it doesn't absolve him of the necessity to think before uttering anything that comes through his mind, more so when it's factually incorrect.
            Are we winning?

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              #81
              Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
              Well, Rush tried himself at football management and it was a disaster if my memory serves me right, so things have to be compared with the proper context.

              Yes Rush is a legend, but as I said, it doesn't absolve him of the necessity to think before uttering anything that comes through his mind, more so when it's factually incorrect.
              Exactly..why does being an ex player/legend make them above being told they're talking crap if that what's we think.

              Obviously it should be done correctly, but not doing it just because someone is Ian Rush is plain stupid. imo.

              It's like saying..'ive formed an opinion..but because Rushie says different...i'll suddenly alter it, no...not unless it's backed up with facts, and Rushie does'nt do that..he rarely does.
              Last edited by Vermilion; 09-11-10, 11:41 AM.

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                #82
                Actually thought this was the same interview as the OP when I read it in the paper. Found the bits in bold ammusing...


                Ian Rush hopes that Roy Hodgson does not become the latest victim of the takeover curse.

                With new owners now in situ at Liverpool, the *pressure is on Hodgson to deliver results that will prompt New England Sports Ventures to hand over the transfer cash he needs to strengthen his squad in the January transfer market.

                Three successive victories have bought Hodgson some valuable time after a torrid start to his Anfield reign.

                But champions Chelsea are on Merseyside today – and history suggests that boardroom revolutions are quickly followed by a change of manager. Rush said: “If you look at what has happened when other clubs have been taken over, it is the manager who always pays the price.


                ''Sir Alex Ferguson is the only manager I can think of who’s survived the *upheaval of a takeover, and the fact is he had been so successful at Manchester United, it’d have been madness to sack him.

                “New owners always bring with them new ideas about how to achieve success, but Roy Hodgson is a top manager and a top person and it would be unfair to judge him on just three months at the club. He hasn’t been able to bring in many new players because of the *financial situation Liverpool were in and he’s still getting to know the players that were already here.

                “This is a results business – that is always the bottom line in football – and Roy has had a difficult start to his time at Anfield. But the Liverpool way has always been to give *people a chance.

                “I’d hope that Roy is given this season and next season as well to make his mark on the team and the club.

                “They must back him 100 per cent – and that means giving him as much money as possible to spend in the transfer market as he sees fit. A lot has been made about Liverpool’s bad start to the season, but they’ve produced three good results on the bounce now and are only a few wins away from fourth place.”

                Some Liverpool fans feel Hodgson’s solid but unspectacular record as a manager doesn’t fit the profile of a man they want to lead their club.

                Questions have also been asked whether he has the kudos to attract top players to Anfield.

                But Rush said: “I know things have changed in terms of the amount of media coverage football gets these days, but Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan were not what you would call high-profile managers, yet they both won the European Cup for Liverpool.

                “Roy is an old-fashioned football man in that respect.

                “He is very knowledgeable about the game and seems to think that his team should do his talking for him. He won’t be on TV or in the newspapers telling everyone what Liverpool are going to do.

                “He thinks deeply about what he is going to say – and again that is the way I was brought up at Liverpool.”

                Rush added: “In the wins against Blackburn and *Bolton you could see the confidence gradually *returning to the team

                “Chelsea will be a much bigger test. They are the champions, the best team in the country, and anyone who doesn’t think they will win the title again is crazy.

                “But Liverpool have a good record against Chelsea, *especially at Anfield.

                “I’d like to see them get on the front foot again.

                “If they can get another positive result it would go a long way in showing the new owners that they’ve already got the right man.”
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  #83
                  Oh what a car crash that was Rushie.
                  Are we winning?

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
                    I think we need a Legend-o-meter to see who has more of a right to say what over who.
                    Yeah.

                    In my experience though you need to be careful where posts like this lead. A similar one of mine on this subject recently backfired. Hoist on me own petard I was.
                    .
                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                      #85
                      Lots of arguing about Rafa still! Let's remember where he is now, great manager for us but he's somewhere else now.




                      Arn, People like Rushie etc.... have their opinions much as what we do, somethings you can think fair enough to others you can say what a crock of ****e!

                      At the end of the day though it's their opinions!

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        Yes, I was aware of the possible irony but thanks for drawing my attention to it. I guess that's the trouble - if someone is being negative and repetitive then pointing it out every time tends to be negative and repetitive. So if you stop, then I won't have anything to say.

                        Self-awareness - it's a real b*tch.
                        a so called win-win situation then I stop saying itøs repetitive and you stop all together

                        and aweareness in general, much easier being at a lower stage of evolution

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Darkon View Post
                          a so called win-win situation then!
                          Yeah.

                          .
                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Arn View Post
                            The only times he talk about us is when he is forced to do it because Hodgson told the media a lied up story. You simply can't let him get away with that and when Hodgson attacked him earlier.

                            He simply isn't talking about us if he isn't forced to defend himself from all the lies.

                            It's much classier if our current manager would have kept quiet in the first place and don't lied about Dalglish or of crap the squad is.

                            If Rafa would have talked about us without being forced to defend himself then it would be a different situation.
                            I don't remember Hodgson being the one who made him have a pop at Purslow and the Liverpool board saying there's not one who knows anything about football.

                            The Hodgson thing was episode two of Rafa talking about LFC and he's only been gone two minutes.

                            He should just move on and stop looking backwards in my humble opinion.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by alunevans View Post
                              I don't remember Hodgson being the one who made him have a pop at Purslow and the Liverpool board saying there's not one who knows anything about football.

                              The Hodgson thing was episode two of Rafa talking about LFC and he's only been gone two minutes.

                              He should just move on and stop looking backwards in my humble opinion.
                              You mean this?

                              He says this himself here: "I prefer not to talk too much about Liverpool," he said. "I prefer not to talk about this because I feel really sorry for the fans. "

                              It's a direct reply to Tom Hicks' vicious comments, nothing more. He's entitled to defend himself and Ian Rush should know more.
                              Are we winning?

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                                #90
                                Yes that. He had no need to say it. He's a legend but it was needless and he'd have been classier if he'd stopped after the opening sentence of "I prefer not to talk too much about Liverpool".

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