Daniel Agger

[dww]

IF Agger leaving meant we bought:
Williams (replace with any defender who is a clear downgrade but well suited to Rodgers system as a direct replacement)
Sahin
Tello
would that change anyone's mind as to the sense of the transfer?

[Vermilion]

Agger is well suited though, so why downgrade ?

[Fredo]

IF Agger leaving meant we bought:
Williams (replace with any defender who is a clear downgrade but well suited to Rodgers system as a direct replacement)
Sahin
Tello
would that change anyone's mind as to the sense of the transfer?

Hmmm maybe. We seem to cope when Agger is not playing but I would be worried if he isn't playing on a regular basis. Agger's a completely different player and perfectly suits Rodgers' system and I'd guess he would do anything to keep him. IMO.

[RedReet]

It does make you wonder how all these quotes from Agger would be perceived by Mancini and the City management team.

I mean, how would we react if Sahin came out and blatantly said 'Well I would go to Liverpool if I had no choice but I'd rather go to Arsenal' or if Dempsey said 'My priority is to stay at Fulham, but if the club want to sell me then I don't want to stay where I'm not wanted'. To blatantly say that you'd only go to City if you were unwanted at your current club must surely make City think twice - the fans on Blue Moon are all pretty annoyed and the reaction seems to be if he wants to stay there then good luck to him (to put it mildly).

[dww]

Agger is well suited though, so why downgrade ?

My point is that we get the others as compensation for that downgrade in one position - would the names mentioned make enough of an overall upgrade to the team to compensate for the loss of Agger?

[Muddled]

thats my point though, ive added 6 more words of what is realistically what he meant just as 90% of people on here are adding their own words to make the doomsday scenario they crave.

I don't understand why it's ok for you to stick some words on the end 'because that is what he realistically meant', yet if somebody interprets those exact words, they are craving armageddon?

[Muddled]

IF Agger leaving meant we bought:
Williams (replace with any defender who is a clear downgrade but well suited to Rodgers system as a direct replacement)
Sahin
Tello
would that change anyone's mind as to the sense of the transfer?

No.

Maybe because I think Sahin and Tello are achievable without the need to sell Agger. On paper, that looks like we've cashed in on Agger and not adequately replaced him.

I think our (potential) transfer activity is looking good because it's being built on solid defensive foundations. Start taking that apart and I think it could set the team back further.

[dww]

No.

Maybe because I think Sahin and Tello are achievable without the need to sell Agger. On paper, that looks like we've cashed in on Agger and not adequately replaced him.

I think our (potential) transfer activity is looking good because it's being built on solid defensive foundations. Start taking that apart and I think it could set the team back further.

Based on what?

[the rev leeroy brown]

once again my works computer wont allow me to quote (apparent sexual content and violence this time?!?!?!)

but Muddled, what i mean is that i interpret gerrards comment to mean nothing sinister. ive added 6 little words on that i think fits what he was saying. on here though people are taking those 6 words and making no end of accusations from "these words show the owners are forcing agger out" to "these words show gerrard believes the owners are over ruling rodgers already". There is no basis at all for those types of scenarios whereas its much more likely to be to do with a contract as i belive.

[Muddled]

Based on what?

Nothing factual, just my gut. I just think that Sahin and Tello could be signed on loan with their wages subsidised by an existing transfer budget.

I don't think they go hand-in-hand with Agger being sold - I'm of the opinion that FSG have a price for each asset and if that price is reached before that asset starts depreciating, they'll accept that offer and give a percentage back to the manager to replace him.

[Muddled]

once again my works computer wont allow me to quote (apparent sexual content and violence this time?!?!?!)

but Muddled, what i mean is that i interpret gerrards comment to mean nothing sinister. ive added 6 little words on that i think fits what he was saying. on here though people are taking those 6 words and making no end of accusations from "these words show the owners are forcing agger out" to "these words show gerrard believes the owners are over ruling rodgers already". There is no basis at all for those types of scenarios whereas its much more likely to be to do with a contract as i belive.

I understand that people will interpret Gerrard's quote differently, but it will mainly be the context, not second guessing what else Gerrard wanted to say - if anything - adding words is just as speculative as posters interpreting the exact words.

You believe it was to do with Agger's contract, I don't think it's as complex as that - I think Gerrard meant what he said, no hidden agenda, no extra words, just if Agger goes, it's the decision of the owners - not the club.

But that's what forums are for - different opinions and different takes on various situations.

[baronvonskidmark]

Hopefully this whole Agger situation will be resolved one way or the other by the start of the season. If we are to sell him (and I hope we don't) we need time to actually sign a replacement.

I just hope that LFC have given City a deadline to give us what we want or **** off. Not 31st August.

[Mr Kipling]

Just can't see him going now. Brendan wants him to stay, so do the fans, so do the players and he wants to stay as he loves the club.

FSG won't sell him now as the backlash will be unreal.

[Gibbo]

IF Agger leaving meant we bought:
Williams (replace with any defender who is a clear downgrade but well suited to Rodgers system as a direct replacement)
Sahin
Tello
would that change anyone's mind as to the sense of the transfer?

I wouldn't, based on the Williams signing alone.

As much as I like Skrtel he can't reproduce his better form without Agger besides him IMO, Agger and Skrtel are a brilliant partnership and keep out defence solid, I honestly think Skrtel and Williams would make us very weak at the back.

You can have Messi and Ronaldo up front but if your defence is ****e your still going to lose games.

[Ams12]

Just can't see him going now. Brendan wants him to stay, so do the fans, so do the players and he wants to stay as he loves the club.

FSG won't sell him now as the backlash will be unreal.

You would have thought so! So why drag it out? Why not just say he's not for sale at any price and get on with things. I would really hate to break up a solid defensive foundation less than a week before the new season!!