Relegation - A real prospect?

[Neil Young]

It's the only cure for Hodgsonitis.

[badpiggy]

Sorry to hear your Hodgson is inflamed.

[Djimi Cruyff]

Yes.

The Face rubbing **** managed to get Blackburn relegated just 3 years after they won the league so he's well ****ing capable of sending us down.

[Darth Marty]

Of course its a real possibility. We are ****ing terrible away from home, mediocre at home and playing like a Div 2 team. We are 3 points away from the drop zone coming into 2011 and that alone makes us real relegation candidates. Do not kid yourselves that we are too god, there have been far too many teams thinking that whilst on the slippery slope to relegation.
We are in deep **** and whilst I personally think we will be ok that is by no means guaranteed, especially if Hodgson gets to keep his job much longer.

[Darth Marty]

p.s - even if we somehow stave off relegation the best we can expect to finish is between 10th-15th.

How ****ing bad does that make us?

[RichC]

relegation is unlikely in all honesty but it certainly isn't something that couldn't happen.

I should imagine we'll finish a very Roy Hodgson respectable 9th- 13th this season which will be lauded as a triumph with only a smattering of abover average talent available to him.

[sean_lfc]

Of course its a real possibility. We are ****ing terrible away from home, mediocre at home and playing like a Div 2 team. We are 3 points away from the drop zone coming into 2011 and that alone makes us real relegation candidates. Do not kid yourselves that we are too god, there have been far too many teams thinking that whilst on the slippery slope to relegation.
We are in deep **** and whilst I personally think we will be ok that is by no means guaranteed, especially if Hodgson gets to keep his job much longer.

p.s - even if we somehow stave off relegation the best we can expect to finish is between 10th-15th.

How ****ing bad does that make us?

relegation is unlikely in all honesty but it certainly isn't something that couldn't happen.

I should imagine we'll finish a very Roy Hodgson respectable 9th- 13th this season which will be lauded as a triumph with only a smattering of abover average talent available to him.

Couldn't agree more, sickening, absolutely sickening. What's most sickening is he might actually be here all the way til the summer.

[alunevans]

37/1 on betfair. which i think is decent value to be honest.

[alunevans]

Blimey we're just 8/5 to finish top 6. Anyone who likes to lay on betfair can tuck in to that one!

[el matador]

p.s - even if we somehow stave off relegation the best we can expect to finish is between 10th-15th.

How ****ing bad does that make us?

worse is that how appealing is finishing bottom half of the table to a new manager ?

Someone like deschamps comes in knowing full well he's got a dressing room full of international players who are unhappy and not motivated to play. It makes his job twice as hard trying to convince senior players like gerrard, torres and reina that this is the best place for them and that they can trust him to take us back to the top.

Any decent players we were interested in will think twice about joining a team that obviously on the way down because this will have been 2 seasons on the trot that the team has under-performed.

This is not a short term hiccup, this is a long term malaise that needs to ripped out of anfield. We need a revolution.

[little dave hedgehog]

if we need a revolution, then who really gives a **** if some players leave?

[el matador]

if we need a revolution, then who really gives a **** if some players leave?

if the likes of jovanovic, babel, maxi, kuyt and co bugger off then thats fair does.

However, the new manager would want to build the team around a spine of players like reina, johnson, gerrard, meireles and torres.

If you were manager, wouldnt you prefer torres to stay if he were firing on all cylinders ?

[little dave hedgehog]

yeah, i would.

but if he left i would be relatively sure he wasn't bigger than the club, and that fsg would stump up the money to replace him. it would suck for everyone emotionally, but we would move on.

[sean_lfc]

yeah, i would.

but if he left i would be relatively sure he wasn't bigger than the club, and that fsg would stump up the money to replace him. it would suck for everyone emotionally, but we would move on.

Pile of ****ing non-sense. I get your point, but it ain't going to happen. We're not a selling club and Torres loves the city, he loves the fans and he loves Liverpool, so does his missus. Seeing the affection he built up with the Athletico fans, the dignified and illustrious career he started there, captaining the club from 19 onwards, speaking far more maturely as a captain in press conferences and beyond (in comparison to our Stevie for instance) and how he's handled himself ever since he came here, in the press, with the fans in the city etc. , I doubt he would just say 'Aw **** this ****, I'm off to Real/Inter/blablabla where I'll just be another number'. He's torn and he will weather the storm, he knows the Bodge is so ****ing inept and **** that he will be gone soon and whoever comes after will see that Torres has *that* much to give to the world of football and Liverpool and won't regard Torres as a target man to receive 60-yard hoofed passes from the goalie or the defence, that he'll happily wait until that day comes to bring his love for football and his love for the fans and the city back into the fields of Anfield Road.

And you best believe it - he's a ****ing legend and he knows it and he knows this turd just needs shat out, all his team-mates know it too. End of.

[sean_lfc]

I just want to add, to amplify my point:

Do you think Torres will 'just leave' in light of the fact he spent all those years as the 'lone man' at Athletico, taking all the **** of never having the chance to win anything, never having his head turned by the big guns in Spain/Europe whatever, to find the next big club, a club he's adamant he wants to stay at and has reiterated his unconditional love for, and then just say 'Oh well, it didn't work out this season and the last after my lengthy injuries, all those injuries for Spain, to then trot back to some ****e club he couldn't give less a **** about (Barca/Real et al) 'just to win things, because I need to win things now or never'? And I repeat, in light of the fact, he could've done it with Athletico for all those years and yet never did?

I think there are some rare gems of players who actually have a lot of love to give, regardless of the fact they play football, they want to play football the right way, at the right club, and not just journey-travel around like some 21st century fox. Some players might actually care more about their employer than money and a fat cabinet full of trophies to wank over when they retire...they want the love as well. And the love is right here, at our club - one of the most deeply entrenched dynasties of football, world-wide. Passion. Unique fans. Magic.