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    #76
    Originally posted by JHP View Post
    Your incessant agenda against Purslow is unhealthy.

    He's not that important to the club going forward.

    There's good news today, try and focus on that and put your vendetta behind you.
    It looks like sections of the press are coming around too

    This from the Times tomorrow

    “If the fans don’t want it then it’s a non starter,” John W Henry, Monday 12 December 2010.

    John W Henry was distancing himself from talk of a ground share with Everton when he made the above comment but he may as well have been commenting on the ill fated six month reign of Roy Hodgson as manager.

    Hodgson wasn’t wanted by the overwhelming majority of Liverpool fans from the day when it was first mooted that he could be the successor to Rafael Benitez.

    They saw a decent man who had taken Fulham from the relegation zone to mid-table mediocrity but they saw nothing in his curriculum vitae to fill them with any great hope that he could lead mighty Liverpool.

    Unfortunately for them, and unfortunately for Hodgson who was forced to carry the can for the club’s chronic lack of ambition at the time of his appointment, one man did view the 63-year-old as a logical choice to follow in the footsteps of Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish.

    That man was Christian Purslow, who will forever be remembered as the kingmaker who failed to appoint the king.

    One of Purslow’s many mistakes was belatedly put right today but there are still countless others still to be rectified as Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool’s owners, are discovering to their cost since their takeover in October. Chief among them are the release clauses that Purslow inserted in the contracts of Pepe Reina and Fernando Torres which will allow the star duo to leave this summer should rival clubs match the conditions inserted in their current deals.

    It has been suggested by Purslow’s allies, a steadily dwindling group at Anfield, that the clauses were inserted to protect the club. Such logic bears no scrutiny, not when the decisive manner that Arsenal dealt with serious interest in Cesc Fabregas following the World Cup. “Not for sale at any price” was Arsenal’s reaction to interest in their best player from Barcelona. No fee was suggested, no price placed on his head and no weakness shown.

    Liverpool, by contrast, watered down the contracts of two of their best players to such an extent that it would be no surprise if both left this summer. That is Purslow’s legacy and it is one that FSG are now struggling to deal with. The time bomb is ticking and they are yet to find a way of defusing it.

    At least they have now found the fuse, though. Removing Hodgson from a post that he should never have been offered in the first place is a crucial step in the right direction. It sends out a message that mediocrity will no longer be tolerated and it gives hope to players and supporters alike that the club’s owners are willing and able to make the big decisions that Liverpool have cowered away from for far too long as a result of endemic dysfunctionality in the boardroom.

    Dalglish’s appointment is a populist choice, of that there is no question. His name has been chanted by the Liverpool fans on more than enough occasions for his status as Kop Idol to be established in the eyes of Henry and his colleagues at FSG.

    But the most important element of Dalglish’s return to the Anfield throne he occupied between 1985-91 is his potential to act as the unifying force that Liverpool have been crying out for ever since Tom Hicks and George Gillett spread division like a plague through sheer mismanagement.

    Hodgson had united the supporters, but only in the most negative sense imaginable as even the small number who had initially welcomed his arrival eventually accepted that he was not the right man for the job. Dalglish will immediately bring everyone together in the most positive fashion imaginable, something that will become audibly clear when the 9,000 Liverpool fans who will pack into the away end at Old Trafford tomorrow chant his name, this time in joy at his return rather than in protest at his exclusion.

    There are still those at Anfield who maintain that Dalglish is out of touch with the modern game with the Scot having been away from management for more than a decade. That was the reasoning that was made public last summer when his hopes of replacing Benitez were dashed. The joke doing the rounds on Merseyside today was that Dalglish had dismissed suggestions that he was out of touch by insisting that Liverpool could topple Nottingham Forest but while the humour may have been cutting the logic did not add up.

    Dalglish may not have been in the dugout wearing his trademark Adidas manager’s coat for quite some time but nor has he been in hibernation. His knowledge of the game he served with distinction as both player and manager remains as extensive as ever and his eye for a player has not diminished, as anyone who has enjoyed his company can readily testify. For all the talk of tactical innovation and advancement, football remains a basic game in which the team that can sign the best players and provide them with sufficient motivation tends to be the most successful.

    It was the same in the mid to late 1980s when Dalglish put together arguably the finest Liverpool team ever seen. Three league titles and two FA Cups bear testimony to his genius, a trophy haul in six seasons that Hodgson could not even come close to matching in 36 years. In many ways it was fitting that Hodgson’s reign came to an end following defeat to Blackburn Rovers because the unfashionable Lancashire club will always serve as a reminder that Dalglish, who guided them to the league title in 1995, has an uncanny knack of turning water into wine.

    Whenever Liverpool were in trouble on the pitch during Dalglish’s playing days the shout would go up from the terraces “Give it to Kenny”. A generation of decline later and FSG have done exactly that. It is a romantic move but coming on FA Cup third round day there is no better time for romance and Dalglish is once again the man that Liverpool have turned to in a time of crisis.

    He has been here before, of course. In 1985, he took the player manager’s job in the wake of the Heysel Stadium disaster, a time when the club’s image was at an all time low. Within a year he had guided Liverpool to their first ever double. In 1989 he was the man that an entire city looked to for spiritual leadership following the Hillsborough tragedy. He somehow provided it and still managed to guide his team to glory in the FA Cup in that same season and the league championship 12 months later.

    Success is unlikely to be on the horizon this time, Liverpool have fallen too far for trophies to be a particularly realistic proposition, but through his unequalled understanding of the club and its fans, Dalglish can guide them away from the troubled waters that have threatened to engulf them before making way for his successor at the end of the season. A wrong has been righted and the only shame is that Liverpool, through Purslow’s inexplicable blunder, have wasted six months before finally appointing the right man for the job

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      #77
      you keep repeating the bad things he has done which eveyone has accepted and acknowledged

      it doesnt change that you seem to have an agenda against him

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        #78
        Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
        Do you doubt him? Honestly? Do you honestly think he will walk into that dressing room/Melwood and not have a clue what to do? Put it this way:

        Do you think he has been having a clear idea of what he would have done, over the past few months, had he been in the position of doing so, considering the fact that he put himself forward for the position in the summer?

        In light of this, do you think he would have - should he have not come to the conclusion that he had a clear idea - accepted the offer of (temporary) manager, in light of the fact he would never want to disappoint the fans, has never done and would never do, ever?
        i do doubt him yes. i hope he will do everything you say. There are a few realities though. that squad didnt do well last season with Rafa who in my opinion is a top top manager.

        Kenny has been out of management for a long time. of course he is a winner and hopefully he will do a great job, i cant help having doubts but it doesnt mean i will be any less glad if he proves to be all we hope .

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          #79
          Originally posted by Marsh View Post
          i do doubt him yes. i hope he will do everything you say. There are a few realities though. that squad didnt do well last season with Rafa who in my opinion is a top top manager.

          Kenny has been out of management for a long time. of course he is a winner and hopefully he will do a great job, i cant help having doubts but it doesnt mean i will be any less glad if he proves to be all we hope .
          I don't believe we'll win every game until the end of the season. However I do believe King Kenneth Mathieson Junior Kop King Dalglish will make sure every ****ing game we play will be done with the former in mind, which is enough for now.

          And I'm sure, and I guarantee it, yet I cannot prove it, that if Rafa had had the backing (not just the money, but THE LOVE!!!), he'd have done the same last season. We don't know the ins and outs, and as I had mentioned previously in **** knows which thread, consciousness, confidence, love, affection, emotions and all those humanoid things play a BIG ****ing part in football. If a penis is erectile but it ain't gonna cum, someone might've spiked someone's drinks! **** YEA LOL

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            #80
            Originally posted by Marsh View Post
            you keep repeating the bad things he has done which eveyone has accepted and acknowledged

            it doesnt change that you seem to have an agenda against him
            Just stating some home truths mate

            Anyway I'm sorry in some ways i've been roped into revisiting this tonight

            Good night y'all

            I'm like a kid on Xmas Eve here , better go and get some shuteye for the big day tomorra'

            [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZgpqKSyQRs&feature=related"]YouTube - King Kenny Dalglish[/ame]

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              #81
              I am dissapointed in CP I think its disgusting what he has done to our club. RAFA YNWA.
              CP should never have been given the power. Roy should never have been given the job ever.

              Nuff said

              I am not expecting miracles from the king just a steady ship anything else would be a bonus.

              Good luck Kenny
              Last edited by Riche; 09-01-11, 12:58 AM.

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                #82
                Tony Barrett:
                Hello Ryan, thanks very much for the compliment. Purslow is still at the club in a non-executive role, ie in title only. He has no influence on the owners or their decisions. Make of that what you will.

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                  #83
                  Genuine question:

                  What does someone in a non-executive role do then? Get free tickets to go to the match and/or the directors box and receive free hospitality?

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
                    Genuine question:

                    What does someone in a non-executive role do then? Get free tickets to go to the match and/or the directors box and receive free hospitality?
                    In a word yes
                    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                      #85
                      In my experience a non exec director is normally someone such as a past owner of a business who has been offered a position on the board to offer some sort of continuity. They are available to be called on for advice and strategy, but not day to day management. They usually have to attend board meetings.

                      In Purslows case I would imagine they have 'parked' him as a non exec, and will be binned when a new chief exec is hired and the new board is then formalised. I am guessing the non exec role was offered in this instance to protect Purslow ego as he would otherwise have been binned as soon as the take over was completed. He is not still required (like Ayre) and didn't walk having completed his duties (like Broughton).

                      Would be interesting to know what package Purslow is on as a non exec as it is a far from full time role.
                      Last edited by Buzzo; 10-01-11, 02:47 PM.
                      Modifying post.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        In a word yes
                        Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                        In my experience a non exec director is normally someone such as a past owner of a business who has been offered a position on the board to offer some sort of continuity. They are available to be called on for advice and strategy, but not day to day management. They usually have to attend board meetings.

                        In Purslows case I would imagine they have 'parked' him as a non exec, and will be binned when a new chief exec is hired and the new board is then formalised. I am guessing the non exec role was offered in this instance to protect Purslow ego as he would otherwise have been binned as soon as the take over was completed. He is not still required (like Ayre) and didn't walk having completed his duties (like Broughton).

                        Would be interesting to know what package Purslow is on as a non exec as it is a far from full time role.
                        Cheers lads, that makes sense. The parking analogy helps my understanding

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                          #87
                          Tony Barrett of The Times today ( Podcast or whatever you call them ! )


                          SiClancy Simon Clancy
                          TB: "Purslow told Pep he could choose his own GK coach after Valero left only for Pep to have 68-year-old Mike Kelly foisted upon him."

                          SiClancy Simon Clancy
                          TB: "Roy Hodgson was Purslow's appointment. Joe Cole was pursued by Purslow from early in the year even though Benitez didn't want him

                          JimBoardman Jim Boardman
                          Tony B says Insua shouldn't have been allowed to leave on loan, "but he was on Purslow's list and didn't survive the cull."

                          SiClancy Simon Clancy
                          Tony Barrett Web Chat details: " Purslow is going to take his share of the credit for the role he played in removing Hicks and Gillett....

                          SiClancy Simon Clancy
                          TB: ".....then he must also take his share of the blame for the state that Liverpool got themselves in on the pitch last summer."


                          ** edit , sorry guys , just seen this in the other TB thread **
                          Last edited by merlboo; 10-01-11, 10:40 PM.

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                            #88
                            climate change - purslows fault

                            tory government - purslows fault

                            trains not running on time - purslows fault

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
                              Genuine question:

                              What does someone in a non-executive role do then? Get free tickets to go to the match and/or the directors box and receive free hospitality?
                              Hope this isn't too heavy, the UK Corporate Governance Code says:

                              As part of their role as members of a unitary board, non-executive directors should constructively challenge and help develop proposals on strategy. Non-executive directors should scrutinise the performance of management in meeting agreed goals and objectives and monitor the reporting of performance. They should satisfy themselves on the integrity of financial information and that financial controls and systems of risk management are robust and defensible. They are responsible for determining appropriate levels of remuneration of executive directors and have a prime role in appointing, and where necessary removing, executive directors, and in succession planning.

                              Means roughly that they provide independent challenge, guidance and advice to Executives (fellow Board members who have responsibility for an area of the business).

                              .

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by JHP View Post
                                Hope this isn't too heavy, the UK Corporate Governance Code says:

                                As part of their role as members of a unitary board, non-executive directors should constructively challenge and help develop proposals on strategy. Non-executive directors should scrutinise the performance of management in meeting agreed goals and objectives and monitor the reporting of performance. They should satisfy themselves on the integrity of financial information and that financial controls and systems of risk management are robust and defensible. They are responsible for determining appropriate levels of remuneration of executive directors and have a prime role in appointing, and where necessary removing, executive directors, and in succession planning.

                                Means roughly that they provide independent challenge, guidance and advice to Executives (fellow Board members who have responsibility for an area of the business).

                                .
                                I think we've had enough of Purslow's 'independent challanges'.

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