Year zero

[kenny_79]

Well I think a few home truths need looking at, now I know I'm stating the bleeding obvious here but this squad of so called Liverpool Football club players are not good enough. Full stop.

And I think the next question is where do we do from here, well we are currently entering uncharted waters at the moment, after the euphoria of both the new owners and the recent appointment of Kenny, we as supporters of Liverpool Football Club have really got to get behind the club in its hour of desperation.

Now, like many people on this site I have been lucky enough to have witnessed some of the highest highs and some of the lowest lows imaginable involving our beloved team.

Something struck me the other night at the Blackpool Game, it was this and boy did it hurt. We are currently miles behind a team such as Blackpool, I thoght ‘god I wish we could play like that’.

Now for me, we need to invest in youth, and yes lets sacrifice 4th place whatever that may be because there is only one place this club belongs to and that is first. For quite some time 4th has been perceived as 1st, and I'm sorry but some of us have been quite used to it.

I think we are not as good as we think we are, yes Hodgson was awful in so many ways but as a club we were sliding in that direction anyway. There is only one player at the moment that I would keep at the moment and that would be Pepe Riena because I really don't think anyone else in the club has the stomach for the fight ahead.

Now I like many people don't know what the answers are but we need to get behind this club like never before. Lets build from the bottom and move on up eh, because thats where we really are. Get rid of the dross and invest in youth, yep that’s easier said than done but thats what we have to do

This may appear as my first post, but I have posted before under a different name. YNWA lads and lasses, because whatever your argument, right or wrong, its because you care and don't forget that

[Fernandinho]

Who were you/are you?

[SB]

Well Kenny , we have been building form the bottom up for a while now. The problem with that is not knowing how the youngsters will develop. You can't only buy youth and hope they'll make it. That's what teams in the bottom half of the competition may do but not a Club looking to win things. While we can't stop investing in young players we certainly can't just invest in youth either.

Comoli's youth strategy will be tested soon enough and I can't wait to see the results on that !

[Rudo]

Well I think a few home truths need looking at, now I know I'm stating the bleeding obvious here but this squad of so called Liverpool Football club players are not good enough. Full stop.

And I think the next question is where do we do from here, well we are currently entering uncharted waters at the moment, after the euphoria of both the new owners and the recent appointment of Kenny, we as supporters of Liverpool Football Club have really got to get behind the club in its hour of desperation.

Now, like many people on this site I have been lucky enough to have witnessed some of the highest highs and some of the lowest lows imaginable involving our beloved team.

Something struck me the other night at the Blackpool Game, it was this and boy did it hurt. We are currently miles behind a team such as Blackpool, I thoght ‘god I wish we could play like that’.

Now for me, we need to invest in youth, and yes lets sacrifice 4th place whatever that may be because there is only one place this club belongs to and that is first. For quite some time 4th has been perceived as 1st, and I'm sorry but some of us have been quite used to it.

I think we are not as good as we think we are, yes Hodgson was awful in so many ways but as a club we were sliding in that direction anyway. There is only one player at the moment that I would keep at the moment and that would be Pepe Riena because I really don't think anyone else in the club has the stomach for the fight ahead.

Now I like many people don't know what the answers are but we need to get behind this club like never before. Lets build from the bottom and move on up eh, because thats where we really are. Get rid of the dross and invest in youth, yep that’s easier said than done but thats what we have to do

This may appear as my first post, but I have posted before under a different name. YNWA lads and lasses, because whatever your argument, right or wrong, its because you care and don't forget that

Oh i think we'll have no problems sacrificing 4th place pal, no problems whatsoever

[Armchairkopite]

The problem is changing our players mechanical style of play. The good news is that is can be done but it takes time. Look at Chelsea under Mourinho they where very mechanial similar to the way Liverpool where under Rafa and they changed their style. Our major issue is a lack of natural width on the pitch because without this the pitch is smaller.
A couple of half decent wingers and full backs would have a major impact on our football.

[dww]

The problem is changing our players mechanical style of play. The good news is that is can be done but it takes time. Look at Chelsea under Mourinho they where very mechanial similar to the way Liverpool where under Rafa and they changed their style. Our major issue is a lack of natural width on the pitch because without this the pitch is smaller.
A couple of half decent wingers and full backs would have a major impact on our football.

Why was this so called mechanical style a bad idea? I seem to remember Chelsea being pretty successful under Mourinho for example.

[Shanks]

We just need to get some confidence and belief back into the players heads..

Owner Issue, Rafa leaving, Roy changing things again, new players coming in etc, can't be good..

Kenny will hopefully settle things down a bit and bring some temporary stability..

Once we get Carra and Gerrard back in, things will start to turn again. Get Joe Cole firing and some confidence back with Torres.. Happy Days..

Add in a couple of new players and ship out some of the dross..


Easy isn't it!

[Drago]

Opening post is spot on. Loads of people don't want to see it though & would rather claim this squad is good enough to challenge for 4th.

[Armchairkopite]

Why was this so called mechanical style a bad idea? I seem to remember Chelsea being pretty successful under Mourinho for example.

It wasn't a bad idea but that is a management style that we had for a long period of time and its going to take some time for Liverpool develop a new style of play.

[Vermilion]

Makes no real differece what WE do while we are short on cash, other clubs will always attract the better players.

Maybe going with youth is the only realistic way left to us.

[DannyMan2006]

Well Kenny , we have been building form the bottom up for a while now. The problem with that is not knowing how the youngsters will develop. You can't only buy youth and hope they'll make it. That's what teams in the bottom half of the competition may do but not a Club looking to win things. While we can't stop investing in young players we certainly can't just invest in youth either.

Comoli's youth strategy will be tested soon enough and I can't wait to see the results on that !

Why wait? Just look at Arsenal. The nearly men who never step up.

[DannyMan2006]

There is only one player at the moment that I would keep at the moment and that would be Pepe Riena because I really don't think anyone else in the club has the stomach for the fight ahead.

Seriously?

Reina will not last at LFC if they don't look capable of challenging for top honours. That's why Purslow (foolishley) negotiated a £25m release clause for this summer coming summer. To keep him happy and on board.

The problem with top players is that they are ambitious. That's how they got to become top players. They want to play with players of similar ability and they want to win the top prizes. That's the reason people like Fernando Torres leave their boyhood clubs, and why Gerrard so very nearly did.

Our top players keep getting sold the same line. There will be investment soon. There will be world class players arriving soon. We will be competing for honours soon. I'm delighted they gave it one more season after last. But I have no doubt in my mind they would have bolted had they forseen how bad we'd be this season.

I just hope NESV are the sort of people who could sell snow to the eskimos because that is the sort of selling we'll need if we fail to deliver in this transfer market.

[Vermilion]

Seriously?

Reina will not last at LFC if they don't look capable of challenging for top honours. That's why Purslow (foolishley) negotiated a £25m release clause for this summer coming summer. To keep him happy and on board.

The problem with top players is that they are ambitious. That's how they got to become top players. They want to play with players of similar ability and they want to win the top prizes. That's the reason people like Fernando Torres leave their boyhood clubs, and why Gerrard so very nearly did.

Our top players keep getting sold the same line. There will be investment soon. There will be world class players arriving soon. We will be competing for honours soon. I'm delighted they gave it one more season after last. But I have no doubt in my mind they would have bolted had they forseen how bad we'd be this season.

I just hope NESV are the sort of people who could sell snow to the eskimos because that is the sort of selling we'll need if we fail to deliver in this transfer market.

Spot on.

[Paul12]

I think we need to accept that there are no god given rights in sport. We also need to recognise that every weekend, the football pitches of England are littered with teams that had a glorious period but are now nothings. We are in danger of being added to that list.

In my view Rafa was in some ways building the Club back towards our previous glory days, but at the same time something was being destroyed. And around him G&H were demolishing things. The wheels came off the team in 2009/2010, and suddenly we are facing a major disaster. To argue that this is essentailly the same team, minus a couple of mifielders, who should have won the league in 2008/2009 is to miss the point. To proclaim with pride that We are Liverpool is worthy, but is not a solution. A total rebuild is necessary.

The first step on that rode had to be to replace owners who were destroying the Club with owners who, at the very least, will help the Club to rebuild. That meant selling the Club, and so that the money men could present numbers that were stable and suject to considerable uncertainty, that meant getting rid of Rafa. Personally, I thought Rafa was also becoming part of the problem - another reason why he had to be removed. Anyway, he is gone now and we need to stop pretending he will back anytime soon. Such thoughts are divisive and stop us moving forward.

We needed a manager who would not need to spend money and could get more out of the existing players. Hodgson fitted that description, so another tick. But turned out not to be the man. Getting rid of him quickly was therefore essential. Tick.

Purslow was a menace; a football fan left in charge of buying and selling. He had to go. Done.

I love Kenny, but have no idea whether he can manage this Club back to success. However, unless he was given the chance he would hang over the club like a ghost. So he had to be given a chance. And what the players need is to be uplifted and he can do that quickly. So he was the obvious candidate to take over from Hodgson. By bringing him to the end of the season we have the chance to find out whether he still has what it takes. So that's what has been done.

The focus now shifts to the pitch. Although most of the first 11 are the players who took us to second place just a few years ago, that first 11 is now the envy of no-one. And the rest of the first team sqaud is weak. My guess is that we need probably to change about 70% of that squad. That is a job for a permanent manager. Nevertheless, things are still so tight in the league that a bit of strengthening would not only save us from relegation but could grab us a Europa Cup place. So that is what we need to do now. I hope I will soon be putting a tick here as well.

So what does that mean? Well, in this transfer window it means strenthening the first team and not selling any of the players who lose their place. We need to be better offensively, we need a bit of steel in midfield, and we need a left back who can stay fit.

[SB]

Why wait? Just look at Arsenal. The nearly men who never step up.

Still rather be in their shoes than ours danny