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    #46
    I can't believe there's still even a debate about Crouch.


    The people who continue to go, "Rubbish in the air, doesn't score, not good enough.... etc etc,"..... the fact is they've been proven wrong and they just haven't got the bottle or decency to double back and admit they made a mistake. :whatever:

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      #47
      Originally posted by Redlife
      I can't believe there's still even a debate about Crouch.

      There is no debate about Crouch.
      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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        #48
        Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
        There is no debate about Crouch.
        Damn right, there is but one Crouchinho and the man rocks
        VIVA LA CROUCHINHO
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          #49
          Originally posted by Mattshark
          Damn right, there is but one Crouchinho and the man rocks
          VIVA LA CROUCHINHO

          Damn straight.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Red Chilli
            A classic case in point. Did you really have to put the highlighted section in? All it does it perfectly illustrate your constant negative attitude towards Crouch. Why don't you expect it to stay there. What are you basing this pearl of wisdom on? For all you know (yes, even you) Crouch may improve on that ratio.
            A simple grasp of statistics and some common sense should show why I have a realistic (rather than negative) view of things.

            In his best ever season he scored 12 league goals, converting 16% of his chances. Last season he scored 8 converting 8% if his chances.

            There are often exceptions to the rule, but the general rule is that things will deviate towards the mean rather than further away from it.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Tom
              Brenden, esteemed founder of 6CM on crouch:
              Right Tom, you obviously don't have much of a clue about a few things either (or your unwilling to actually read what I've typed previously).

              The founders of 6CM are myself Ryan, Foxforcefive and Irlstu. Piedro is now an equal partner too.

              Do you see Brendan's name there ? No ? Thought not.

              As for Crouch, he's improving but we will NEVER win the league with him up front. (and you can quote me on that as much as you like )

              A few of you really need to open your eyes rather than give the "Everythings fine :insert****esmileyhere:" replies.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Rosco
                As for Crouch, he's improving but we will NEVER win the league with him up front. (and you can quote me on that as much as you like )
                Why? What reasons do you have to lead you to this conclusion, because him and Kuyt up front looks rather good.
                Thomas Hicks Senior

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Morphorino
                  Why? What reasons do you have to lead you to this conclusion, because him and Kuyt up front looks rather good.
                  Just call it a hunch.

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                    #54
                    reckon your hunch is a bit off
                    Thomas Hicks Senior

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Morphorino
                      reckon your hunch is a bit off
                      He is just anti crouch, some people always will be.
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Mattshark
                        He is just anti crouch, some people always will be.
                        You see that's just complete and utter bollox.

                        If you take the time to read my previous comments you'll see I've given him credit, I've also said he should be in the team as well at the moment. How anti- Crouch is that ?

                        What I really am is pro- Liverpool winning the league. We will not do that with Crouch as a regular starter up front.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Rosco
                          As for Crouch, he's improving but we will NEVER win the league with him up front. (and you can quote me on that as much as you like )
                          We didn't win the League with Robbie Fowler in his prime so what's your point then?

                          That we won't win the league with Crouch up front, because he isn't good enough, and by proxy Rafa isn't good enough as a manager to win us the league because he bought and picked Crouch?

                          Or am I wrong?
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                            #58
                            I think there is a debate about Crouch. It's not whether he is any good, he clearly is. The statistics for the second half of last season and the beginning of this prove he is.

                            Unfortunately he has not at any point in his career had a sustained one season plus run of this level of form. I think he is a late bloomer and is now coming to his true level - a very good one. Still it is a level below the really top players (such as Henry) and we have to question wether we are a good enough team to win the league without players of true world class up front
                            I would err to the side of the fact that Rafa has proved at Valencia that it can be done, but that is not the PL. So there does remain room for debate.
                            Last edited by dww; 29-10-06, 08:27 PM.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint
                              We didn't win the League with Robbie Fowler in his prime so what's your point then?

                              That we won't win the league with Crouch up front, because he isn't good enough, and by proxy Rafa isn't good enough as a manager to win us the league because he bought and picked Crouch?

                              Or am I wrong?
                              You're reading a bit more into it than is actually there, just take the words at face value.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by dww
                                I think there is a debate about Crouch. It's not whether he is any good, he clearly is. The statistics for the second half of last season and the beginning of this prove he is.

                                Unfortunately he has not at any point in his career had a sustained one season plus run of this level of form. I think he is a late bloomer and is now coming to his true level - a very good one. Still it is a level below the really top players (such as Henry) and we have to question wether we are a good enough team to win the league without players of true world class up front we can win the league.

                                I would err to the side of the fact that Rafa has proved at Valencia that it can be done, but that is not the PL. So there does remain room for debate.
                                You'll be judged as being anti- Crouch now too. But at least you know what you're talking about.

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