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    A tale of two footballers

    There once was a Liverpool player, let's just call him... eh.. Steven Gerrard,. He was one of the best players in the world, but he felt he was stuck in a team going nowhere.
    He feared that his ambitions could not be fulfilled if he stayed with the team he grew up in. The team closest to his heart, his favorite team, his hometown.
    He made the decision to join Chelsea because he could see himself winning stuff there.
    I wanted him to go swim with the fishes, I wanted him to catch some really horrible disease.
    Then he changed his mind. He stayed with us, and his trophy cabinet has not excactly been filled up since.


    There once was another player, let's just call him... eh.. Fernando Torres,. He was one of the best players in the world, but he felt he was stuck in a team going nowhere.
    He feared that his ambitions could not be fulfilled if he stayed with the team he grew up in.
    The team closest to his heart, his favorite team, his hometown. He made the decision to join Liverpool because he could see himself winning stuff there. However things did not play out like he hoped they would. He just joined the English version of his beloved Atletico. He would look to his teammate Gerrard and see a player approaching the twilight of his career with nothing much to show for his exceptional ability. Oh well, at least he was playing for the club in his heart in his hometown.
    Fernando Torres knew he needed a change.

    The reactions since Torres transfer request are just pathetic and unworthy of our club. We know nothing about how Torres is seeing things from the inside
    I love Kenny, and I'm thrilled to see the change in the side since he took over, but have you ever considered that he might be just an average manager now?
    Torres has worked with Benitez who is a modern manager on top of his game, making a team punch above it's weight most seasons. Maybe he just don't see that happening under Kenny? And no one really knows what's gonna happen in the summer... We might be starting all over again. He might be thinking this gonna take at least 3 years to fix, by then he'll be pushing 30.
    He came here to win, not for sentimental reasons.

    We dont know all the facts here, he might well be doing us a favour, even playing along with a game the manager and the owners has designed for the benefit of the club.
    He might have made his mind up that he's leaving this summer no matter what, and told the club about this. Then he might actually be doing us a favour by leaving now;
    If it's true that there's a 50m release clause that activates this summer then selling him now would be the only way to get MORE than that. When the club make his request public they're really just saying
    "the table is set, but this is gonna be one expensive meal"
    There's no way Chelsea will be the only bidder if Torres is leaving by Monday, Citeh and maybe even Barca (real's a no go) and Inter (united?) will be in the hunt. The price will go up.
    £50m is peanuts for a player of Torres quality, we should get 70m. If there's a clause activated in the summer we could loose a lot of money.
    And also by handing in a request he will forego his share of the fee which might even be somewhere between 10-20% (at least £5-10m!!!)
    So his request might actually, best case scenario give the club £30+ more cash than a summer transfer!!!

    This season is a write off anyway, We'll never get 4th and who really gives a flying fcuk if we make the Europa League anyway. It makes no difference to our season if he leaves now.

    Do I want him to leave? Hell no!
    Do I want to see him playing for ANY other english club (especially the chavs or the scum)? It'll be like losing a limb.


    But COME ON!!! He's no Owen, he's no McMoneyman. I have no reason to believe that he's not genuinely fond of the club and the fans here, but he left his dream club to join us for christ sake!
    TO COMPETE AT THE ABSOLUTE TOP LEVEL OF THE GAME
    ... are we there now? will we be there next season?
    In the last year he's also witnessed 3 worldclass, fellow spanish speaking players and a world class manager, with whom he had a special relationship, leave the club.

    Fernando Torres does not owe Liverpool Football Club or the fans anything.
    I'd love him to stay, and I'd be fully behind him if he does, but I support LFC not Torres, that will never change.
    We sold Rushie, we sold the Mighty Mouse. We came back stronger. We will be back on our perch, with or without him.

    Get over it. Move on.

    #2
    “More than ever, we need to stick together,” he said. “We must live in the present, from match to match.We need to add more points, win matches and improve our stan
    Last edited by Icon; 29-01-11, 06:09 AM.

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      #3
      What a load of bollocks.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Icon View Post
        “More than ever, we need to stick together,” he said. “We must live in the present, from match to match.We need to add more points, win matches and improve our standing in the table. That is our challenge and I demand the total help of our supporters in doing that."

        "By the way, can I get a transfer?"
        If it wasn't so painful I'd laugh. The best I can do is this smiley
        Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Icon View Post
          “More than ever, we need to stick together,” he said. “We must live in the present, from match to match.We need to add more points, win matches and improve our stan
          Why the quick edit chief?
          Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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            #6
            Bold bits...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Icon View Post
              Bold bits...
              I got that but you lost this
              "By the way, can I get a transfer?"
              I'm watching you
              Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                #8
                Players lie all the time depending on the situation.

                Can we blame Torres for leaving? No, not really. I'd rather he gave FSG next season to deliver but I'm sure he has spoken to them, and may well be left unconvinced.

                FSG themselves said that though the players want a quick fix, the goal is a long term fix and they only want players who can buy into that theory. It's a good business model for them, but it's not great for Torres.

                In all fairness, if I was a world class player and was a die hard Liverpool fan (as I am) and played for Liverpool I would be delighted. But if Liverpool were an average club (such as Atletico) I may think about moving on to win things and compete at the highest level.

                Let's say I joined Barcelona. And lets say I really enjoyed my time at Barca, but they were going through a difficult period. The fans loved me and I had some good times, but the best players kept leaving and owners never lived up to their promises. Let's also say that in that time I won nothing at Barca, whilst Liverpool won the Europa League.

                That's right, I left Liverpool to win something and yet whilst I'd won **** all at club level they had won a European Trophy.

                I'd be getting cold feet, no doubt about that. In fact you could say, the owners would have to do some major buys to make me want to stay if Real Madrid came calling who were serious about winning things.
                Forwards.......

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  Players lie all the time depending on the situation.

                  Can we blame Torres for leaving? No, not really. I'd rather he gave FSG next season to deliver but I'm sure he has spoken to them, and may well be left unconvinced.

                  FSG themselves said that though the players want a quick fix, the goal is a long term fix and they only want players who can buy into that theory. It's a good business model for them, but it's not great for Torres.

                  In all fairness, if I was a world class player and was a die hard Liverpool fan (as I am) and played for Liverpool I would be delighted. But if Liverpool were an average club (such as Atletico) I may think about moving on to win things and compete at the highest level.

                  Let's say I joined Barcelona. And lets say I really enjoyed my time at Barca, but they were going through a difficult period. The fans loved me and I had some good times, but the best players kept leaving and owners never lived up to their promises. Let's also say that in that time I won nothing at Barca, whilst Liverpool won the Europa League.

                  That's right, I left Liverpool to win something and yet whilst I'd won **** all at club level they had won a European Trophy.

                  I'd be getting cold feet, no doubt about that. In fact you could say, the owners would have to do some major buys to make me want to stay if Real Madrid came calling who were serious about winning things.
                  I understand his reasons but it's the timing that I'm questioning. We've just broke our record to strengthen and with 3 days left till the TW shuts he says I'm off ?
                  Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SB View Post
                    I got that but you lost this

                    I'm watching you
                    BIG oops!

                    Life in the way - tidy, mourn, make tea, make angel wings for daughter, mourn, make pla doh food for angels, post, mourn, tidy pla doh, spill more...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Icon View Post
                      BIG oops!

                      Life in the way - tidy, mourn, make tea, make angel wings for daughter, mourn, make pla doh food for angels, post, mourn, tidy pla doh, spill more...
                      That makes my morning of
                      1 Netball with the daughter followed by
                      2 sign up day for the lads soccer look like a walk in the park.

                      Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                        #12
                        Gotta clock off for a bit, starting to hallucinate...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Icon View Post
                          Gotta clock off for a bit, starting to hallucinate...
                          I'll do the same with my lad soon. I should be able to catch a local match and half of the reserves game with him if I play my cards right ( and I will)
                          Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Icon View Post
                            BIG oops!

                            Life in the way - tidy, mourn, make tea, make angel wings for daughter, mourn, make pla doh food for angels, post, mourn, tidy pla doh, spill more...
                            This may help and if you drop a few hints you could have them for fathers day

                            Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                              #15
                              It's not what you want. It's what you get. Torres may be worth 70m but there's no takers for that amount.

                              His fair price is prolly around 50m euros which is about 42m pounds. And we'd be lucky to get that. There's not many clubs who need top strikers and have that kind of money.

                              All I can see is Bayern and Chelsea who can spend and need a good CF
                              Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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