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    #16
    Originally posted by Rudo View Post
    I'll not argue with you but i've been watching Liverpool for about 16 years and i can't recall as bad a string of performance from another player.

    Not talking about one or two matches, i mean like 5 or 6 when Johnson was absolutely shocking. - out of position, slow, weak, giving ball away cheaply at nearly every opportunity, giving away the most needless of free-kicks, getting skinned by players of average ability to say the least. Woeful.
    good lord, that is way OTT - most of the side this season have been dire, in fact probably only 2 or 3 would be exempt from that prior to Kenny coming back, yes Johnson wasn't great but to say that is a massive over reaction and well, quite frankly wrong - obviously your opinion mate and usually I don't say flat out wrong for opinions here.

    Djimi Traore for one springs to mind, poor bloke had to hold the ball at left back while Stevie came to collect it from him if I remember rightly.

    Johnson had been poor this season but a lot of that was a knock on from the tactics, everyone else being rubbish and his confidence being shot.

    He's a decent player, maybe not to standards of some of the top fullbacks from world football but still a decent player all the same.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Mostar View Post
      Interesting you said that as lately I have been thinking about both of them.

      Glen is extremely uncomfortable in LB position and it almost feels like disaster waiting to happen. He is also predominantly right footed player so he cannot give us much on the left neither defensively nor offensively, which was ultimately his biggest strenght.

      Kelly, on the other hand, is very strong defensively but gives us absolutely nothing going forward, which is a big problem as we have no wingers.

      I totally agree that GL needs to play on the right either as RB or converted winger and Kelly, who at the moment is pretty solid, should over time being phased into his natural role as CB.
      Originally posted by saj View Post
      Spot on uncompfortable is the right word. He's not neglecting his defensive duties but when coming forward he looks so uncomfortable. He actually struggles to dribble on the left side - not many right footers can without cutting in and as a full back thats a complete NO - he has to go on the on the outside. I think he will be devasting when played on the right in that position.
      Move over. Room for one more on this bandwagon. Totally agree. I was one who was saying only a short while ago that if we got a good offer for GJ we should take it. Kenny seems to believe in him and he's been better but we still need a new LB IMO.
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        #18
        Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
        good lord, that is way OTT - most of the side this season have been dire, in fact probably only 2 or 3 would be exempt from that prior to Kenny coming back, yes Johnson wasn't great but to say that is a massive over reaction and well, quite frankly wrong - obviously your opinion mate and usually I don't say flat out wrong for opinions here.

        Djimi Traore for one springs to mind, poor bloke had to hold the ball at left back while Stevie came to collect it from him if I remember rightly.

        Johnson had been poor this season but a lot of that was a knock on from the tactics, everyone else being rubbish and his confidence being shot.

        He's a decent player, maybe not to standards of some of the top fullbacks from world football but still a decent player all the same.
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          #19
          Originally posted by SB View Post
          NEWS FLASH

          Rudo is not the Good Lord, repeat Rudo is not the Good Lord
          May the Good Lord bless this clarification.
          .
          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



          May the Lord bless this post.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            May the Good Lord bless this clarification.
            Amen and Hallelujah to that brother
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              #21
              Originally posted by SB View Post
              Amen and Hallelujah to that brother
              Testify!

              Last edited by Neil Young; 04-02-11, 10:22 PM.
              .
              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                Testify!
                I feel redeemed
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                  #23
                  If we're going to play three CBs, Glen needs to be playing on the right without a doubt.
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                    #24
                    Having Agger helping you out in defence instead of Carra is the biggest reason to why Johnson now play better defensive football IMO.

                    You only need to look at how big difference it was last season when Agger played and not Skrtel, Kyrgiakos or Carra on the left of the central defence.

                    Insua looked a lot better when Agger played.

                    Agger is simply our best central defender by a mile.
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                      #25
                      Plenty of people moping on about past performances. I started this thread to look at thf present and where people see us going on from here.

                      On Glen at LB, no doubt he'd rather be on the right as that's his natural side. But he is very much a two footed player and can pass, cross and shoot with either foot. I always say ghat if you are s good footballer you should be at least decent on your weaker foot and should therefore be able to play on either side of the pitch if needed. Glen is better than decent with his left foot. Anyone whose played football at any level will know it can be awkward switching sides at the drop of a hat, but he's had a few weeks there now and looks good.

                      In an ideal world Id sign Cissokho or Contreao and have Glen back at RB, but my main point was that Glen and Martin are doing well as a pair and I don't think it's as big a priority as it was initially feared.
                      Forwards.......

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                        Plenty of people moping on about past performances. I started this thread to look at thf present and where people see us going on from here.

                        On Glen at LB, no doubt he'd rather be on the right as that's his natural side. But he is very much a two footed player and can pass, cross and shoot with either foot. I always say ghat if you are s good footballer you should be at least decent on your weaker foot and should therefore be able to play on either side of the pitch if needed. Glen is better than decent with his left foot. Anyone whose played football at any level will know it can be awkward switching sides at the drop of a hat, but he's had a few weeks there now and looks good.

                        In an ideal world Id sign Cissokho or Contreao and have Glen back at RB, but my main point was that Glen and Martin are doing well as a pair and I don't think it's as big a priority as it was initially feared.
                        That is exactly what we should do. Both of those would be outstanding signings.

                        GJ should be either RB or tested and tried as a converted right winger.

                        If not, we may be better off selling him in summer cause he won't cut it as LB.
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                          #27
                          Contreao will likely cost £20m +. do you not think we'd be best off spending that money on wingers and other positions first of do you see LB as the main priority?
                          Forwards.......

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                            #28
                            A winger is for me the position that needs to be addressed first as we have no width and no crossing ability and without that Carroll will be like fish out of water.

                            That said, it really depends how Kenny sees us. If he wants his fullbacks to provide width and they supply crosses then the investment will be in offensive minded LB and Coentrao would be an excellent choice especially as he can serve as both LB and winger. If that is what Kenny wants to see then he'll possibly need to shift GJ back to RB to provide alternative on the right and stretch the defense even further.

                            Tough to say but I think we will be buying natural winger but you never know.

                            What are your thoughts?
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                              #29
                              For me right now, Kelly has the RB spot on merit. Glen is only playing LB through lack of lack of other options. Although he's done ok there, we still need a proper LB. Maybe even two.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                                Plenty of people moping on about past performances. I started this thread to look at thf present and where people see us going on from here.
                                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post

                                On Glen at LB, no doubt he'd rather be on the right as that's his natural side. But he is very much a two footed player and can pass, cross and shoot with either foot. I always say ghat if you are s good footballer you should be at least decent on your weaker foot and should therefore be able to play on either side of the pitch if needed. Glen is better than decent with his left foot. Anyone whose played football at any level will know it can be awkward switching sides at the drop of a hat, but he's had a few weeks there now and looks good.

                                In an ideal world Id sign Cissokho or Contreao and have Glen back at RB, but my main point was that Glen and Martin are doing well as a pair and I don't think it's as big a priority as it was initially feared.
                                Lol, i said Johnson's performances have been much improved from a month or so to praise him - as he's showed a bit of charcater to bounce back with a few solid displays in recent weeks.
                                Think you're misinterpreted that one tbh

                                I also don't agree that Johnson is very much a two footed player.

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