No doubting he was an absolute beast of a player. It's more the time he spent as manager that soured people to him.
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Difficult to know where to start, he said so much about it. It'd be best to wait for a transcript or a YouTube clip or something. In a nutshell he held his hands up to making a balls of the situation but also explained how events transpired against him. His apology was totally heartfelt...he said he's Liverpool through and through and it hurts him, still hurts him. Like I said it was stirring stuff.Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View PostWhat did he say about that interview?Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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I saw the interview this morning and actually felt quite sorry for him, it wasn't necassarily what he was saying - but how he was saying.
Considering his hardman no-nonsense reputation on the pitch, he looked like he was going to burst into tears. When he spoke of the interview / pics that he gave to the paper in question, he realises the grave error he made.
I know he has made apologies for this before, but this one just seemed so much more emotional and heartfelt.
One other interesting thing he said was that the chief exec at the time Peter Robinson said to Souy when he was about to take the job 'are you sure you want this and do you know what you are letting yourself in for, as this is a poor team and only 1 of the current players is any good?'
Do you guys reckon this is true, and if so which player was he referring to? Because i'd certainley disagree with that, we had a core of good players - with only 2 or 3 quality additions required. Certainley not the mass overhaul that Souness did. Maybe he was just trying to justify his rash rebuilding.
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Yeah but wasn't it Robinson who supposedly said to Souness there was only one good player at the club?Originally posted by magicalbarnes View PostI dont think it was Barnes as Souness never really rated him, and Barnsey didn't like his management style either. Infact in Barnes's autobiography, Digger is quite scathing of him.
Either way I disagreed with it and as Lec mentioned earlier he talked some rubbish about us going two years without winning anything.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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I do feel that he gets alot of stick that is over the top, yes his managerial spell was poor, but he was a great player. Also when I've seen him as a pundit IMO his views are usually quite accurate, he doesn't spout some of the crap some of our other former players do.
My views on him have softened considerably over recent years.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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Yes it was Robinson, but the way Souness said it - it sounded like they were in agreement.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostYeah but wasn't it Robinson who supposedly said to Souness there was only one good player at the club?
Either way I disagreed with it and as Lec mentioned earlier he talked some rubbish about us going two years without winning anything.
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As I recall, when he took over we were top of the league. We were in decline at that point anyway in my opinion. Some of KD signings weren't that great and, similarly to the Man U of today, we were top of the pile whilst being a shadow of our former selves. He also arrived just as the super rich footballer of the Sky era arrived. That caused it's own problems as player power kicked in. Add to that he splashed the cash on a number of really good players who, for one reason or another, just didn't play for us as they had for their previous clubs. I remember GS referring to a player (Houghton) coming up to him and saying his wife wanted to return to London on family reasons and could he leave. Souness relented. The player went to Villa. My memory may be clouded but I remember a change in the attitude of certain players, McMahon for one, who just didn't fancy the fight and left. The Liverpool Souness returned to 5 or 6 years after he left was not one he recognised. He tried major surgery and it backfired. I still maintain that he was not solely responsible for Liverpool's decline in the 90s. That started under Dalglish(maybe not as a result of Dalglish). David Moores part in our downfall has to be addressed aswell. I believe we stood still as a club off the pitch in the belief it would all last forever. It didn't.Originally posted by magicalbarnes View PostI saw the interview this morning and actually felt quite sorry for him, it wasn't necassarily what he was saying - but how he was saying.
Considering his hardman no-nonsense reputation on the pitch, he looked like he was going to burst into tears. When he spoke of the interview / pics that he gave to the paper in question, he realises the grave error he made.
I know he has made apologies for this before, but this one just seemed so much more emotional and heartfelt.
One other interesting thing he said was that the chief exec at the time Peter Robinson said to Souy when he was about to take the job 'are you sure you want this and do you know what you are letting yourself in for, as this is a poor team and only 1 of the current players is any good?'
Do you guys reckon this is true, and if so which player was he referring to? Because i'd certainley disagree with that, we had a core of good players - with only 2 or 3 quality additions required. Certainley not the mass overhaul that Souness did. Maybe he was just trying to justify his rash rebuilding.I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.
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