Chelsea vs Liverpool Post Match Thread

[Arn]

Interview with Gerard Houllier during the Autumn of 1999...



"But, here, you cannot reach places or win trophies without a certain way of doing it. Because of the tradition, because of the culture of the football that was on the field here for years and years, with the good teams, with Keegan and Dalglish and all those players, it was different from the other football of other clubs. Here, you have got to play a certain type of football. I knew that when I came as a supporter, but even more as a manager in France and as a technical director I would watch Liverpool and the way they would play. I don't think you could play the Wimbledon type of football here. Suppose I would come here and say: 'Well, this is the quickest way to get from box to box, let's do that.' Well, it wouldn't work. And that's not just because of the players. Football is more than just eleven players; it's an environment, it's a context and they have had so much of the good football practice in the successful years that you could not break away from that.

Even now I am trying to break away from the passing: well, not from the passing, because I like passing. But I want to pass forward, God, yeah. They like to pass the ball. Two years ago Liverpool made more passes than any other team, they were the best passing team in the Premiership. But to me that doesn't mean anything. you can be the best passing team and win nothing. You have to verticalize, and to go deeper with passes. The passing, like a bond, was more, 'Let's keep our hands like that', but I think we have to be more provocative than that, and go forward.

These fans have been to matches for 20 or 35 years. They have been to many games. They know the type of football that was developed here. They've kept that in mind. They know more when the team is playing well. You cannot win without a bit of 'the manner' here. You can't win without entertaining here. It's my philosophy, but I think it's even more here. They like winning, but they like winning in the way they want to win. It's got to be a good, entertaining and fascinating way of playing it. That's important. We can win one-nil and play **** and they would not like that."

Source: "Passing Rythms: Liverpool FC and the Transformation of Football." John Williams, Stephen Hopkins, Cathy Long, 2001.

and then he changed us to playing long balls to Heskey and/or Owen.

Entertaining, yeah, his style was really entertaining wasn't it?

[RichC]

and then he changed us to playing long balls to Heskey and/or Owen.

Entertaining, yeah, his style was really entertaining wasn't it?

dreadful to watch, I remember a game against Southampton in his last season, god it was tourture to watch!

[Craig_H]

[Mostar]

and then he changed us to playing long balls to Heskey and/or Owen.

Entertaining, yeah, his style was really entertaining wasn't it?

Is that Suso? Your avatar I mean?

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

Had to post this,lovely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3YKU...ature=youtu.be
I'm on page 6, is it worth reading the rest of the thread?

[Arn]

Is that Suso? Your avatar I mean?

Yes. The best young player we had the last decade or so IMO. Will be fantastic the day he make his first league appearance.

[Pablo]

So that was David Moore's master plan afterwards!

Well it didn't work out for you did it fella, and your **** grey sweater looks like a Fruits of the Loom!

[Robbie-fowler999]

Yes. The best young player we had the last decade or so IMO. Will be fantastic the day he make his first league appearance.

big statement there mate

[Arn]

big statement there mate

A reason is of course the lack of competition the last decade but I believe Suso will be a key player in just two three years time for us. I expect that he will make his first league start next season and would be very surprised if he didn't.

I think that he is already good enough to play in the league but it is better to wait until his body is ready. Let him play 10-15 games next season and then take it from there. I don't want another young player end up injured because he played to much to early.

[Robbie-fowler999]

A reason is of course the lack of competition the last decade but I believe Suso will be a key player in just two three years time for us. I expect that he will make his first league start next season and would be very surprised if he didn't.

I think that he is already good enough to play in the league but it is better to wait until his body is ready. Let him play 10-15 games next season and then take it from there. I don't want another young player end up injured because he played to much to early.

fair enough mate but lets just wait and see

[Mostar]

Yes. The best young player we had the last decade or so IMO. Will be fantastic the day he make his first league appearance.

I haven't seen him much but what I saw it was impressive.

[el matador]

Interview with Gerard Houllier during the Autumn of 1999...



"But, here, you cannot reach places or win trophies without a certain way of doing it. Because of the tradition, because of the culture of the football that was on the field here for years and years, with the good teams, with Keegan and Dalglish and all those players, it was different from the other football of other clubs. Here, you have got to play a certain type of football. I knew that when I came as a supporter, but even more as a manager in France and as a technical director I would watch Liverpool and the way they would play. I don't think you could play the Wimbledon type of football here. Suppose I would come here and say: 'Well, this is the quickest way to get from box to box, let's do that.' Well, it wouldn't work. And that's not just because of the players. Football is more than just eleven players; it's an environment, it's a context and they have had so much of the good football practice in the successful years that you could not break away from that.

Even now I am trying to break away from the passing: well, not from the passing, because I like passing. But I want to pass forward, God, yeah. They like to pass the ball. Two years ago Liverpool made more passes than any other team, they were the best passing team in the Premiership. But to me that doesn't mean anything. you can be the best passing team and win nothing. You have to verticalize, and to go deeper with passes. The passing, like a bond, was more, 'Let's keep our hands like that', but I think we have to be more provocative than that, and go forward.

These fans have been to matches for 20 or 35 years. They have been to many games. They know the type of football that was developed here. They've kept that in mind. They know more when the team is playing well. You cannot win without a bit of 'the manner' here. You can't win without entertaining here. It's my philosophy, but I think it's even more here. They like winning, but they like winning in the way they want to win. It's got to be a good, entertaining and fascinating way of playing it. That's important. We can win one-nil and play **** and they would not like that."

Source: "Passing Rythms: Liverpool FC and the Transformation of Football." John Williams, Stephen Hopkins, Cathy Long, 2001.

with all due respect lads its not rocket science.

he's talking about making forward passes quickly from the back. In our country the more direct style of football means long ball from back to front, but he's talking about playing forward passes not long balls which are hit and hope.

Most teams which retain possession well play a lot of lateral passes and few vertical ones. He just wanted more penetration.

[dom9]

Yes. The best young player we had the last decade or so IMO. Will be fantastic the day he make his first league appearance.

Surely not better than Insua? Is that even possible?

[Arn]

Surely not better than Insua? Is that even possible?

He will be our Iniesta.

[Drago]

No pressure on the the kid then.