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    #16
    Originally posted by dww View Post
    I'm not sure about this universal call for a winger. I really think it depends on how we plan to set up. If we go for a combination of the 4-3-3 and 3-5-2 formations we have been using then a genuine winger would be a bit wasted. There are examples either way as to whether one is really needed (i.e. Barcelona and Arsenal don't use them but Man U and Tottenham have had successes that seem largely dependent upon them).

    I think a leftback is an absolute necessity.

    Another CM would be good.

    Another attacking player whether that be a wide forward/winger or creative midfielder.

    I'd also like us to make some changes to the CBs in the squad. I don't think we have any really good partnerships there at the minute. I would hold off judgement on that until we have seen what KD and Clarke make of what we have in the rest of the season.
    I agree with that but I think we could do with a winger in the squad, even if it's just to mix things up and give us a different option. At the moment the majority of our attacking players prefer to play through the middle, another option as a plan B would be useful IMO especially as we have Carroll, who could benefit from such a player.

    Obviously the way we are planning to play would have a bearing on how much we are prepared to pay...
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      #17
      Originally posted by anfieldanfield View Post
      ...for September.

      LB = Top quality left back for 10m or so, no idea who!!

      -------- Carroll
      Suarez-----------Young
      ---Miereles--Gerrard
      -------- Lucas
      LB--Agger--Carra--Kelly
      --------Reina

      ---------N'gog
      Maxi----Patcheco--Kuyt
      ------Adam--Shevley
      Aurelio-Skrtel-Wilson-Johnson
      ----------GK

      Pretty solid, young, hungry squad that. Obviously could adapt to various formations.

      Wouldn't win the league with those 22 footballers, but under Kenny or another top manager it should get us back into the top four without breaking the bank.

      Overall though, I'd personally be a little disappointed with it.
      We need better than Carra to be a regular first teamer next year. Johnson also won't play second fiddle to Kelly, I don't even think he'll be happy continuing as LB, so could be off if Kenny prefers Kelly.

      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      Why do we need a new LB. IMO Johnson will continue there. He is doing pretty well cutting in and getting forward.

      Also, for what its worth, I think the long term plan will be to move him forward. He is playing as a wing back at the moment. So its the logical progession.
      Where do people get this notion from, I still don't understand it? I don't mean why do they think he'd make a good winger, but why do they think we'll play him there when no manager so far has shown any inclination that they would. I know you said it's because he's playing WB, but so is Kelly, it's to suit the formation.
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        #18
        Originally posted by RedReet View Post
        We need better than Carra to be a regular first teamer next year. Johnson also won't play second fiddle to Kelly, I don't even think he'll be happy continuing as LB, so could be off if Kenny prefers Kelly.


        Where do people get this notion from, I still don't understand it? I don't mean why do they think he'd make a good winger, but why do they think we'll play him there when no manager so far has shown any inclination that they would. I know you said it's because he's playing WB, but so is Kelly, it's to suit the formation.
        I'm not sure if Kenny prefers Kelly to Johnson at right back, it could just be that he sees a small difference between them, but thinks Johnson as a better option than anyone else at left back.
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          #19
          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          I'm not sure if Kenny prefers Kelly to Johnson at right back, it could just be that he sees a small difference between them, but thinks Johnson as a better option than anyone else at left back.
          I working off the assumption that Anfielddanfield has Kelly as first choice. As well as Kelly has done, I doubt Kenny would see him as a better player than Johnson at this early stage in his career.
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            #20
            We certainly need a few positions coming in this summer - left back, centre back and I'd like to see an attacking creative player come in, be that an out and out winger or someone to play off the front in a 3, depending on what formation KK is looking to play really.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Rudo View Post
              Of course he's not, very few players are(if any) but he's a damn good player.

              Not saying we should sign him, personally i hate the cunt and would never want us to sign him. It's a shame because he's a quality player. Imo.
              And only 2 years younger than Gerrard. What would be the point in that?
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                #22
                Though we have signed 2 strikers and have instantly more depth in this position it is a part of the field where I wouldn't mind us being even stronger. Personally I can't see N'gog staying beyond this season and Pacheco, though full of potential, is massively unproven at the top level and potentially too light weight. It is all about competition so either another top CF or better quality back up.

                Other than that, I agree we obviously need width, a DM, and a left back.

                It will be interesting to see who wants out at the end of the season also, once Kenny has been in a few months players will quickly work out whether they are needed or not. Joe Cole must be looking at his position for example, it is a player of his sort that we lack, and missing out on Van Der Vaart and taking Cole is not looking like brilliant business as things stand.
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                  #23
                  Santon would be a great signing and most probably available at a fair price. Can play left or right back.

                  Aguero will almost certainly move in the summer. Kuyt out Aguero in?

                  I don't think that we need a new central midfielder. Suso can play there. Give him a chance instead of buying a new CM.

                  Canales isn't getting any games at Real. Could be available at a fair price.

                  Give Wilson a chance instead of buying a new central defender.
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                    #24
                    We aint gonna get Aguero sadly. I'd keep Kuyt as a utility attacker squaddie. He can be relied on for that at least.

                    I think we need a LB, CB, winger/wide player & a new CM. Would also be looking at a ressie goalie.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                      Leftback, attacking wide player and a dedicated holding/defensive midfielder is a must for me


                      Not sure if we have money but I would also look for a new CB. With Agger's injury problems and Carra and Soto getting older (33 and 32 this year) we will need to search for a new replacement very soon.
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                        #26
                        A wide attacking player who can play both sides
                        Yan M'vila
                        Fabio Coentrau
                        A centre-back

                        About £70m outlay.
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                          #27
                          Taiwo will be on a free this summer. Surely we will be having a very long look at him. I have never seen him play but have seen youtube vids of his thunderous left foot. Can anyone do up a little scout report? Is Zapater around maybe? Because he could save us some money if he is good enough, which we can spend on strengthening other areas, or focusing more money on 1 position.
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                            #28
                            Coentreo looked fantastic at the World Cup at LB. Not sure if he's playing well at club level.

                            What about Defour as our new CM? Is he a Gerrard type player?
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                              Taiwo will be on a free this summer. Surely we will be having a very long look at him. I have never seen him play but have seen youtube vids of his thunderous left foot. Can anyone do up a little scout report? Is Zapater around maybe? Because he could save us some money if he is good enough, which we can spend on strengthening other areas, or focusing more money on 1 position.
                              to be honest i'm not sure Zapater can play left back
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                                #30
                                Take it in context PTP
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