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    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
    Spearing is better on the ball than off it

    Which considering we are using him as our holding player is a worry

    None of our fit midfielders are suited to that holding role imo


    Lucas is our only holding midfielder, we need real cover for him.
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      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
      Spearing is better on the ball than off it

      Which considering we are using him as our holding player is a worry

      None of our fit midfielders are suited to that holding role imo
      Lucas is the only player with both the mindset and the ability to play well in that position.

      Spearing has the mindset but unfortunately, he's completely useless.

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        Spearing needs to play alongside a disciplined defensive midfielder with great positioning.

        When we had Xabi Alonso, he was the midfielder with great positioning and awareness. We partnered him with terriers first in Sissoko and then Mascherano.

        Now we have Lucas as the positioning style midfielder and Spearing compliments him.

        Spearing cannot play a holding role on his own IMO. He needs someone with positional awareness next to him.

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          Originally posted by Phoenix06 View Post
          Spearing needs to play alongside a disciplined defensive midfielder with great positioning.

          When we had Xabi Alonso, he was the midfielder with great positioning and awareness. We partnered him with terriers first in Sissoko and then Mascherano.

          Now we have Lucas as the positioning style midfielder and Spearing compliments him.

          Spearing cannot play a holding role on his own IMO. He needs someone with positional awareness next to him.
          Spearing isn't a terrier though, he may run around a lot, but he doesn't harry opposition players. We need far better than him because Lucas can pass better, tackle better and harry better than Spearing can.
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            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
            Spearing isn't a terrier though, he may run around a lot, but he doesn't harry opposition players. We need far better than him because Lucas can pass better, tackle better and harry better than Spearing can.
            He may not be effective in terms of pressing, but he does it.

            It worked alright last season having Lucas alongside him.

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              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
              Spearing isn't a terrier though, he may run around a lot, but he doesn't harry opposition players. We need far better than him because Lucas can pass better, tackle better and harry better than Spearing can.
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                Originally posted by Phoenix06 View Post
                He may not be effective in terms of pressing, but he does it.

                It worked alright last season having Lucas alongside him.
                I worked alright because of Lucas, Spearing was nothing but average.
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                  Originally posted by Phoenix06 View Post
                  He may not be effective in terms of pressing, but he does it.

                  It worked alright last season having Lucas alongside him.
                  It worked alright last season because Lucas carried him.

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                    I agree that we need better than Spearing. I'm just trying to explain why he's been on and off in the games he's played this season.

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                      Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                      Jay Spearing is without a doubt in my mind, the worst player in our squad getting games, and he's only "rated" due to perception. The things he supposedly does; tackle, close people down and break up play, he actually does very very poorly.

                      Yes, he's worse than Henderson, who has some patches of confidence where he looks a player. Spearing is just ****, a championship level player at best.
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                        Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                        It worked alright last season because Lucas carried him.


                        Lucas was **** last year according to you (probably the worst player without a doubt in your mind getting games).

                        Oh how 'perception' changes. maybe Jay should get injured too...
                        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                          Lucas isn't my cup of tea, though he had two spectacular games that impressed me just before getting injured.

                          But he's miles above Spearing in every single way. He's a defensive midfielder who can actually defend, whereas Spearing is not.

                          If we had another capable defensive midfielder, Lucas wouldn't have been missed as much, but since Spearing is his replacement, we miss him big time.

                          Not very hard to understand.

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                            Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                            Lucas isn't my cup of tea, though he had two spectacular games that impressed me just before getting injured.

                            But he's miles above Spearing in every single way. He's a defensive midfielder who can actually defend, whereas Spearing is not.

                            If we had another capable defensive midfielder, Lucas wouldn't have been missed as much, but since Spearing is his replacement, we miss him big time.

                            Not very hard to understand.
                            Yes, perhaps we should pick one from that long list of players you often suggested were infinitely better than Lucas. I’m also pretty sure you used to go on and on about no need for a DM, probably accused people of being brainwashed by Rafa etc.

                            I could be wrong, but even still there is absolutely no way I could even continue a conversation with you on this subject as I would find it impossible to take you serious after pervious posts.

                            Ha ha, I even have a meaningful use for new smilies…



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                              Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                              Jay Spearing is without a doubt in my mind, the worst player in our squad getting games, and he's only "rated" due to perception. The things he supposedly does; tackle, close people down and break up play, he actually does very very poorly.

                              Yes, he's worse than Henderson, who has some patches of confidence where he looks a player. Spearing is just ****, a championship level player at best.
                              Bump - how **** was he yesterday??!! Christ on a bike, he makes Istvan Kozma look world class!!!

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                                Originally posted by cled the red View Post
                                Bump - how **** was he yesterday??!! Christ on a bike, he makes Istvan Kozma look world class!!!
                                first half he was one of our better players, apart from the error that led to their first goal. constantly wanting the ball and moving it on quickly. second half like most of them he disappeared. he had a better game than gerrard who assist apart was woeful.
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