Jon Flanagan

[baitman]

im sure i remember reading about him signing a new short term deal to help him through his injury period when he would have been out of contract.
i am sure it mentioned something like 10k a week just to help keep him ticking over while he came back and proved his fitness.

[The Birdman]

im sure i remember reading about him signing a new short term deal to help him through his injury period when he would have been out of contract.
i am sure it mentioned something like 10k a week just to help keep him ticking over while he came back and proved his fitness.

Couldn't have been.
The extra year had to be on the same money (or more) or Flanagan could leave on a free with minimal compensation because we offered less.

The extra year was just that, 1 more year with the same terms.

[calvoboy]

I think you are reading to much into the situation. I reckon they'll eventually offer him a 3 year contract weighted with fitness clauses.

He's been out for a long time and he's nowhere near full fitness yet. I don't believe that they are taking liberties because of his affinity to the club and he's a local lad. It looks like Teixeira will leave the club who i think is as promising but they obviously think they can do better. Even with kids you're probably talking about a £10m contract over three years so economically it sometimes is worth letting youngsters go. Mignolet was protected but that's an international.

I just don't see why there's a fuss now, with James Pearce and others writing articles in the Echo about how we "must offer him a contract"....seems odd timing given he's only just got himself fit again, that's all.

[calvoboy]

I posted this pages and pages ago.
Flanagan is on 50k a week, the contract Kenny gave him in 2011, he signed an extra year last year to get him through his injuries.
Made his debut at 18, hes 23 and has played 50 games.
50% of those games were in half a season under Rodgers.

Otherwise you're looking at 25 games in 4 years/seasons - 6 a year/season.
His agent is also playing the scouser card.

Yes we should offer him a new deal but 50k a week is too much for him based on what he has achieved to date let alone an increase.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Same terms would be reasonable, but he shouldn't be getting an increase yet. Maybe a renegotiation clause or incentives clauses for a rise next year if he proves his worth (and fitness)?

[labourRed]

I just don't see why there's a fuss now, with James Pearce and others writing articles in the Echo about how we "must offer him a contract"....seems odd timing given he's only just got himself fit again, that's all.

Parochial press nonsense. Probably just feeding off Hendo quotes as well.

[baitman]

Couldn't have been.
The extra year had to be on the same money (or more) or Flanagan could leave on a free with minimal compensation because we offered less.

The extra year was just that, 1 more year with the same terms.

im not saying im 100% on this, but i do remember some mention of a token amout as he was going to be out of contract unless we offered something, and due to the nature of the injury he was unlikely to make a full recovery anytime soon, so the year contract was just a paltry 10k per week to stop him having to eat his own wallpaper due to starvation.

[Fierce]

I posted this pages and pages ago.
Flanagan is on 50k a week, the contract Kenny gave him in 2011, he signed an extra year last year to get him through his injuries.
Made his debut at 18, hes 23 and has played 50 games.
50% of those games were in half a season under Rodgers.

Otherwise you're looking at 25 games in 4 years/seasons - 6 a year/season.
His agent is also playing the scouser card.

Yes we should offer him a new deal but 50k a week is too much for him based on what he has achieved to date let alone an increase.

Where have you read £50k per week? That seems like far too much

Everything I can find suggests £25k a week, and that was his new contract

[Cormack74]

I thought he did quite well last night but only quite. I worry that he only has one level which is full on and this is going to get him into trouble when it really matters. Next couple of weeks we play the scummers, presumably with foreign officials in charge who aren't necessarily going to appreciate his blood and guts approach.

If he can rein things in a bit and play with his head as well as his heart then IMO he could develop into a top player.

[wongers]

I posted this pages and pages ago.
Flanagan is on 50k a week, the contract Kenny gave him in 2011, he signed an extra year last year to get him through his injuries.
Made his debut at 18, hes 23 and has played 50 games.
50% of those games were in half a season under Rodgers.

Otherwise you're looking at 25 games in 4 years/seasons - 6 a year/season.
His agent is also playing the scouser card.

Yes we should offer him a new deal but 50k a week is too much for him based on what he has achieved to date let alone an increase.

Flanno's on 25k

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/liverpool-player-salaries/

[BobTheCharmer]

I thought he did quite well last night but only quite. I worry that he only has one level which is full on and this is going to get him into trouble when it really matters. Next couple of weeks we play the scummers, presumably with foreign officials in charge who aren't necessarily going to appreciate his blood and guts approach.

If he can rein things in a bit and play with his head as well as his heart then IMO he could develop into a top player.

He did very well. He did lose the ball a couple of times but then who doesn't? He nearly always makes up for his mistakes. The one level, the full power is what makes him a must to play, the guts raises his and others game. Yes he will get bookings and the occasional red. I don't see a problem with this, you accept it and hope it's kept to a minimum. Most players these days get a few red cards in their careers.

If you get a chance, watch the game again. His passing is very incisive, he's always looking forward and he never panics under pressure. He played one slide rule pass that was immense. He wants the ball. He doesn't hide. He gets the crowd and teammates going with his challenges. We need more of this. He's not perfect but by god you can't buy some of what this lad has.


Edit _ he's not in the Europa squad as he's not able to play twice a week at present.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

If its true he is on £50k a week the club have every right to want him to prove his fitness, even offer him something less or incentivised because he's played very little. Problem is his last contract was too much.

[BobTheCharmer]

If its true he is on £50k a week the club have every right to want him to prove his fitness, even offer him something less or incentivised because he's played very little. Problem is his last contract was too much.

He's worth every penny.

[MrMichael]

Where have you read £50k per week? That seems like far too much

Everything I can find suggests £25k a week, and that was his new contract

Flanno's on 25k
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/li...ayer-salaries/

Yup, clearly some shenanigans going on, there is no way Flanno was given a £50k/week contract in 2011, he would have been what, 18 then and played a tiny handful of times?

[Cormack74]

He did very well. He did lose the ball a couple of times but then who doesn't? He nearly always makes up for his mistakes. The one level, the full power is what makes him a must to play, the guts raises his and others game. Yes he will get bookings and the occasional red. I don't see a problem with this, you accept it and hope it's kept to a minimum. Most players these days get a few red cards in their careers.

If you get a chance, watch the game again. His passing is very incisive, he's always looking forward and he never panics under pressure. He played one slide rule pass that was immense. He wants the ball. He doesn't hide. He gets the crowd and teammates going with his challenges. We need more of this. He's not perfect but by god you can't buy some of what this lad has.


Edit _ he's not in the Europa squad as he's not able to play twice a week at present.

I didn't think he played badly - quite well I put and I agree with most of what you said. I just want him to control his rashness whether it's (occasionally) positional or whether it's when he comes up against the Raheem's of this world. Actually that's a bit unfair on Raheem; he doesn't tend to dive, so when he comes up against certain types of continental player in the future.

Didn't know about him not being in the EL squad: probably a good thing this year.

[G]

im sure i remember reading about him signing a new short term deal to help him through his injury period when he would have been out of contract.
i am sure it mentioned something like 10k a week just to help keep him ticking over while he came back and proved his fitness.

That's what I thought too.

Couldn't have been.
The extra year had to be on the same money (or more) or Flanagan could leave on a free with minimal compensation because we offered less.

The extra year was just that, 1 more year with the same terms.

He was out of contract so of course he could leave for free. We had no obligation to match his current wage cos the contract guaranteeing him that wage expired that summer. Nobody would take him even if he wanted to go because he was injured so being the nice folk we are we gave him a few quid like Dave suggests to sort him out while he got back to fitness.