Luis Suárez

[Neil Young]

I still have very little time for Suarez as a person - I think he's pretty obnoxious, immature, a bit of a bellend. But he's our player, and very good one at that, so of course I'm behind him.

I think that's a pretty harsh judgment on him "as a person" but I don't know how representative his on-pitch behaviour is of his character. Maybe you do.

[MrMichael]

Lol. I think you should dig the posts up, my memory of that exchange is a touch different from yours it seems...

[Assassin]

I still have very little time for Suarez as a person - I think he's pretty obnoxious, immature, a bit of a bellend. But he's our player, and very good one at that, so of course I'm behind him.

Unless you know him personally, this is a little unjust. Those who know him personally in the team speak very highly and favourably about him

[dom9]

I think that's a pretty harsh judgment on him "as a person" but I don't know how representative his on-pitch behaviour is of his character. Maybe you do.

Fair enough, but his behaviour on the pitch and in press conferences this summer means that I have very little time for him. That's all I have to go on, so I'm happy to sit in my ivory tower and cast judegments.

[Venton]

I think that's a pretty harsh judgment on him "as a person" but I don't know how representative his on-pitch behaviour is of his character. Maybe you do.

Surely you can only judge people on the actions that you know about?

[Shaggy]

Surely you can only judge people on the actions that you know about?

Well, we know he puts a lot of money and a fair bit of time into his charity work in Africa. No-one seems arsed about that though.

[Tee]

Well, we know he puts a lot of money and a fair bit of time into his charity work in Africa. No-one seems arsed about that though.

Genuinely never knew that. Not sure what kind of welcome he would get in Ghana though.

[dom9]

Well, we know he puts a lot of money and a fair bit of time into his charity work in Africa. No-one seems arsed about that though.

I didn't know that.

Lots of footballers do the same. I guess lots of footballers also don't.

Either way, it's not swayed me.

[Pablo]

Lol. I think you should dig the posts up, my memory of that exchange is a touch different from yours it seems...

I might try at some point, although I'm not sure of the quickest way to do it.

Essentially I was saying we should be careful not to abuse him too much (people were saying some disgusting personal things about him) as there was a good chance he might well still be a Liverpool player come the end of the window.

You obviously thought the mere notion of him staying was so laughable you decided to mock me for it.

Now I'm, with a typical lack of grace, stuffing it right back in your face dude, and I'm loving it!

[Tee]

I might try at some point, although I'm not sure of the quickest way to do it.

Essentially I was saying we should be careful not to abuse him too much (people were saying some disgusting personal things about him) as there was a good chance he might well still be a Liverpool player come the end of the window.

You obviously thought the mere notion of him staying was so laughable you decided to mock me for it.

Now I'm, with a typical lack of grace, stuffing it right back in your face dude, and I'm loving it!

Sarb called him a goofy rat, which almost started WW3 on here.

[Shaggy]

Less well publicised is Suarez's charity work which took up much of his spare time in South Africa.

“I care about social inequality,” he said. “Whenever I can I love being active part of organisations that promote solidarity projects.

“Football has got this tremendous power of joining people, without any skin, religion and social discrimination.”

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlLt5sMc4wU"]Luis Suarez: South Africa Documentary (2010) - YouTube[/ame]

[Venton]

Well, we know he puts a lot of money and a fair bit of time into his charity work in Africa. No-one seems arsed about that though.

That would be a point in his favour although my cousin Barry does that too and he's a swine of a man

[Neil Young]

Surely you can only judge people on the actions that you know about?

I'd say more an awareness that there's probably loads of stuff you don't know about means withholding judgment is a better course of action.

It's really easy to be judgmental and I think it's often a trap.

And there's also loads of stuff he doesn't do, that others have done. To my knowledge, he hasn't chinned anyone in a club, he hasn't been arrested, he hasn't got drunk at the Christmas party and shagged a stripper on stage... Of course that's not especially noteworthy, most of us haven't done any of them, but then most of us aren't in the public eye like all these gazillionaire footballers.

I doubt many of us would find ourselves blemish-free if put under the media gaze these guys endure (and are richly compensated for). We'd all probably all look like bellends to some extent, especially if the media were hostile to us for some reason.

That's not to excuse the worst examples of his behaviour on the pitch, just to contextualise them.

[MrMichael]

I might try at some point, although I'm not sure of the quickest way to do it.

Essentially I was saying we should be careful not to abuse him too much (people were saying some disgusting personal things about him) as there was a good chance he might well still be a Liverpool player come the end of the window.

You obviously thought the mere notion of him staying was so laughable you decided to mock me for it.

Now I'm, with a typical lack of grace, stuffing it right back in your face dude, and I'm loving it!

Hmmm. I'm thinking it might have been a touch more nuanced than that, but whatever because I definitely can't be arsed proving it, I defer to your graceful triumphalism.

I should also point out that having been an almost lone voice in favour of Sturridge pre-signing, having been right behind Rodgers from day one, and having been telling everyone going overboard about net spend and FSG to chill out for the last month, I really should be allowed just a touch of leeway on this one

[Pablo]

I'd say more an awareness that there's probably loads of stuff you don't know about means withholding judgment is a better course of action.

It's really easy to be judgmental and I think it's often a trap.

And there's also loads of stuff he doesn't do, that others have done. To my knowledge, he hasn't chinned anyone in a club, he hasn't been arrested, he hasn't got drunk at the Christmas party and shagged a stripper on stage... Of course that's not especially noteworthy, most of us haven't done any of them, but then most of us aren't in the public eye like all these gazillionaire footballers.

I doubt many of us would find ourselves blemish-free if put under the media gaze these guys endure (and are richly compensated for).

Never. I have tried many, many times though