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  • Mattshark
    Still Blames Thatcher
    • Aug 2006
    • 24691

    #2206
    Originally posted by Suarez
    what I mean is, if we had to make way for a new striker by selling Carroll, we'd probably lose somewhere in the region of £20m (getting say £15m for him) so purchasing another striker for £25m would've really cost of £45m.
    No, that would just mean we made a loss on a player we massively overpaid for. That is not a sensible way to do things.
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    • Suarez
      Hodgsoned
      • Apr 2010
      • 2758

      #2207
      Originally posted by Mattshark
      Predominantly revolving around Suarez's play for us.

      Well they invested plenty in the summer.
      They haven't really, its about £40m net since they've been here, not nearly enough.

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      • Suarez
        Hodgsoned
        • Apr 2010
        • 2758

        #2208
        Originally posted by Mattshark
        No, that would just mean we made a loss on a player we massively overpaid for. That is not a sensible way to do things.
        When you replace one directly for another, it has to be included. Try telling the accountants otherwise.

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        • Mattshark
          Still Blames Thatcher
          • Aug 2006
          • 24691

          #2209
          Originally posted by Suarez
          They haven't really, its about £40m net since they've been here, not nearly enough.
          Are you taking the piss? Just because we used the money badly doesn't mean we haven't had any.
          Last edited by Mattshark; 24-04-12, 09:30 AM.
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          • Mattshark
            Still Blames Thatcher
            • Aug 2006
            • 24691

            #2210
            Originally posted by Suarez
            When you replace one directly for another, it has to be included. Try telling the accountants that.
            No, it doesn't, if you are going to use that logic we technically spent -15m on Carroll so we could make a profit on him.
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            • Suarez
              Hodgsoned
              • Apr 2010
              • 2758

              #2211
              Originally posted by Mattshark
              Are you taking the piss?
              £40m net is nowhere near enough to get a struggling side back fighting for the top. As an ongoing transfer kitty for a team already at the top it would be more than sufficient, but for a side that needs rebuilding, it simply isn't enough.

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              • Mattshark
                Still Blames Thatcher
                • Aug 2006
                • 24691

                #2212
                Originally posted by Suarez
                £40m net is nowhere near enough to get a struggling side back fighting for the top. As an ongoing transfer kitty for a team already at the top it would be more than sufficient, but for a side that needs rebuilding, it simply isn't enough.
                Bollocks quite frankly, we took plenty of points with the players we had last season. We had plenty to spend, more than Newcastle and look where they are, sorry but you are talking rubbish. We were 10 points of 4th last season, 40m is enough to bridge such a gap.
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                • yamiedo
                  Dalglish
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3155

                  #2213
                  I think FSG will now be very cautious with their money and only sanction transfers below the 15m mark. As long as the players represent value for money. They and others are probably looking at Newcastle and feeling that is the sort of thing they should be aiming for. Easier said than done though obviously.

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                  • baitman
                    Dad's Cabs
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 27735

                    #2214
                    Originally posted by acdmackay
                    I think FSG will now be very cautious with their money and only sanction transfers below the 15m mark. As long as the players represent value for money. They and others are probably looking at Newcastle and feeling that is the sort of thing they should be aiming for. Easier said than done though obviously.
                    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                    • Suarez
                      Hodgsoned
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2758

                      #2215
                      Originally posted by Mattshark
                      Bollocks quite frankly, we took plenty of points with the players we had last season. We had plenty to spend, more than Newcastle and look where they are, sorry but you are talking rubbish. We were 10 points of 4th last season, 40m is enough to bridge such a gap.
                      We took plenty of points with the players we had last season and finished 10 points off 4th?

                      You can't just compare everyone to Newcastle, we may as well compare it to Arsenal and say we should be able to do it with a negative net spend over a 5 year period. These are one offs, the majority of teams that are successful do so with huge initial investment and a running net spend allowing the purchase of one or 2 top players a season.

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                      • Mattshark
                        Still Blames Thatcher
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 24691

                        #2216
                        Originally posted by Suarez
                        We took plenty of points with the players we had last season and finished 10 points off 4th?

                        You can't just compare everyone to Newcastle, we may as well compare it to Arsenal and say we should be able to do it with a negative net spend over a 5 year period. These are one offs, the majority of teams that are successful do so with huge initial investment and a running net spend allowing the purchase of one or 2 top players a season.
                        Yes, did you see the start we had to last season?

                        We had money, we spent badly.
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                        • magicalbarnes
                          Dalglish
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2442

                          #2217
                          Any talk of selling Suarez is absurd. He's our best player, and the team needs to be built around him.

                          We could buy another forward for £50m and chances are he wouldnt be as effective or settle as quickly as Suarez.

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                          • Lecter
                            Nicked from elsewhere
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 18261

                            #2218
                            Originally posted by acdmackay
                            I think FSG will now be very cautious with their money and only sanction transfers below the 15m mark. As long as the players represent value for money. They and others are probably looking at Newcastle and feeling that is the sort of thing they should be aiming for. Easier said than done though obviously.
                            I think they will be cautious

                            They will research the players far more than they have

                            Whoever the manager is will have to fully justify who he wants and possibly even the reasons why

                            I dont think there will be a £15 million ceiling set on transfers

                            It will depend on the player they are looking at
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                            • Pablo
                              Anti-Antipodeanite
                              • May 2007
                              • 25808

                              #2219
                              Originally posted by magicalbarnes
                              Any talk of selling Suarez is absurd. He's our best player, and the team needs to be built around him.

                              We could buy another forward for £50m and chances are he wouldnt be as effective or settle as quickly as Suarez.
                              I said this before, but I think if Rafa was here, that's exactly what we would do (as we did with Torres).

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                              • dom9
                                Ant Pisser
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 69011

                                #2220
                                Originally posted by Suarez
                                £40m net is nowhere near enough to get a struggling side back fighting for the top. As an ongoing transfer kitty for a team already at the top it would be more than sufficient, but for a side that needs rebuilding, it simply isn't enough.
                                This time last year we were not struggling. We were flying. There was so much optimism in the air. We playing great attacking football for the most part.
                                Oh I don't know.

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