Luis Suárez

[danperkins]

That celebration was absolutely hilarious.

[RedReet]

I didn't say performed, I said scored. Of his 31 goals 5 were against Norwich, 5 against Cardiff, and 2 against Fulham, the three relegated teams. Add on 3 against West Brom, and 2 against West Ham, Stoke, Sunderland and Palace, and that's 23 of 31 goals against teams nowhere near the top of the table (and I didn't even include Spurs in that) and often part of comfortable victories.

I'm not saying that 31 in 33 games isn't phenomenal, but the facts are that a third of those came against just two teams, and none against City, Chelsea or Arsenal (even in the 5-1 win).

Performed, scored, I was alluding to the same thing.

I find it odd that you are using last years form as a stick to beat him with, especially as it was just a statistical anomaly IMO. If his previous form reflected this trend then maybe I would see your point, but in previous seasons he was just as likely to score against Chelsea or United than any other team, bar Norwich. IIRC in his first 18 months here, all his goals were single goals in different matches, bar 2 games (Norwich and West Ham I think), so the only difference I see is he added more goals to his game, just coincidentally fewer were against the big sides. And similar to what Shaggy said, if he went missing in these games, then there might be an argument to be had, but more often than not he was still the best player on the park.

The thing is, I actually agree with your point that some people play down how good Torres was for us in his prime as he was phenomenal. But equally, I think you are doing the exact same thing here with Suarez and clutching at straws to prove your point.

[greenbloodred]

One of my favourite memories

Scamp!

[RedReet]

That's probably the best way to put it goalscorer vs footballer

2 completely different types of player.

IMO, if somebody offered us Suarez in exchange for Torres in his peak, we'd have told them to f*ck off, Torres was perfect for us in that system, playing on the shoulder of the last defender. Equally, there is no way we'd swap Suarez last year for a peak Torres, he'd have been nowhere near as effective in Rodgers system.

[Cormack74]

dupe

[Cormack74]

Scamp!

It's that "yeah I'm just moving him away so he doesn't get into trouble:

(but at the same time I'm going to scalp the ****er").

[Shaggy]

It's even funnier that they're matey in real life and have hung out together in the north-west's South American gang. Haha. Luis doesn't give a ****.

[Leyton388]

I meant best player I've ever seen in the flesh, best player I've ever seen at Anfield etc.

Definitely the best player I've seen in the flesh.

It was an absolute privilege to see him at Anfield. The one goal that sticks in my mind was the free kick against Zenit in the Europa League. I was right behind that and the bend on that ball was outrageous.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPyW1BeBFEo"]Luis Suarez Amazing Freekick Liverpool vs Zenit 3-1 (3-3) 21/02/13 - YouTube[/ame]

[Harv]

The almost goal against Arsenal. Still annoys me it didn't fly in. Incredible strike.

Was an utterly ridiculous strike.

[Gibbo]

Definitely the best player I've seen in the flesh.

It was an absolute privilege to see him at Anfield. The one goal that sticks in my mind was the free kick against Zenit in the Europa League. I was right behind that and the bend on that ball was outrageous.

Luis Suarez Amazing Freekick Liverpool vs Zenit 3-1 (3-3) 21/02/13 - YouTube

Look at the ****ing passion after he scored that.

****s sake don't wanna sell him.

[Leyton388]

I don't want him to go either Gibbo. We don't have to sell him but I think the club are not taking any chances now. He's fantastic but he is 1 more transgression away from a long ban. We can't afford to take the chance of him doing something stupid again.

I still don't want him to go but I can see where the clubs coming from.

[Fosterbloke]

Here's a question, do you think Rodgers improved Suarez and if so, could he regress at Barca?

[Chris]

Definitely the best player I've seen in the flesh.

It was an absolute privilege to see him at Anfield. The one goal that sticks in my mind was the free kick against Zenit in the Europa League. I was right behind that and the bend on that ball was outrageous.

Was a great night that, atmosphere was epic. Shame we couldnt quite turn it around but he loved it all. Annoying he's ****ing off to play for them cunts who dont even make any noise in CL semi's apart from when they're asking for penalties and red cards.

[Leyton388]

He won't be the main man at Barca that's for sure. However with Naymar now ****ed he will get his chance as the main striker. I think he will be brilliant in La liga as apart from a couple of teams the rest of it is crap and he'll run riot.

He'll run Messi and Ronaldo close for World player of the year IMO.

[Leyton388]

Was a great night that, atmosphere was epic. Shame we couldnt quite turn it around but he loved it all. Annoying he's ****ing off to play for them cunts who dont even make any noise in CL semi's apart from when they're asking for penalties and red cards.