Luis Suárez

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What the actual ****? Van Persie has failed to score in four games for United in the league this season too. Is he **** as well? Carlos Tevez has failed to score in five too. Is he ****?

His goal return this season is fantastic. Some people are outrageously harsh on him.

Where did I say he was ****

He's inconsistent but he's still brilliant, as I said in the post. The chances he's had in the other games he should be scored more then he has to be fair.

He needs help that's all.

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What the actual ****? Van Persie has failed to score in four games for United in the league this season too. Is he **** as well? Carlos Tevez has failed to score in five too. Is he ****?

His goal return this season is fantastic. Some people are outrageously harsh on him.

Very probable he will go onto get around 20 goals this season, i bet at least half of them he will create himself of which there will be some world class goals in there too, But plenty of people will be complaining of the 20 sitters he missed.

[Pablo]

Where did I say he was ****

He's inconsistent but he's still great, as I said in the post.

He needs help that's all.

You made out that him not scoring in 5 matches was somehow poor. It's ludicrous to expect strikers to score virtually every game as I pointed out.

He needs hep yes, no one would deny that, but he's doing outstandingly well on his own as it is

[wiw]

Very probable he will go onto get around 20 goals this season, i bet at least half of them he will create himself of which there will be some world class goals in there too, But plenty of people will be complaining of the 20 sitters he missed.

I was thinking about this yesterday....does he have to create his own because nobody else is on his wavelength? Or is he not on everyone elses wavelength. I know there's a wavelength problem somewhere anyway. He is fantastic at what he does but I'm not sure how great for the team he is as a whole.

[Pablo]

I was thinking about this yesterday....does he have to create his own because nobody else is on his wavelength? Or is he not on everyone elses wavelength. I know there's a wavelength problem somewhere anyway. He is fantastic at what he does but I'm not sure how great for the team he is as a whole.

The answer's in here somewhere but I'll be ****ed if I can find it:

[Tee]

I was thinking about this yesterday....does he have to create his own because nobody else is on his wavelength? Or is he not on everyone elses wavelength. I know there's a wavelength problem somewhere anyway. He is fantastic at what he does but I'm not sure how great for the team he is as a whole.

Come on mate, he is fantastic for the team, no doubts at all. He just needs a bit of support in and around the box and he will be even more devastating and hopefully become clinical.

[Lents]

I love him, and 6 goals in 9 games is a good return, but it still means in 5 of our 9 league games he's failed to score at all.

He's brilliant but he needs someone up there with him to share the burden of scoring. He shouldn't be the focal point of our attack and after January I hope he won't be.

Are you on glue? 6/9 league games is a brilliant return for anyone and only Ba and Van Persie have more. (7)

The burden shouldn't all be on Suarez, but calling a rate of 0.67/1 good is underselling it badly.

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You made out that him not scoring in 5 matches was somehow poor. It's ludicrous to expect strikers to score virtually every game as I pointed out.

He needs hep yes, no one would deny that, but he's doing outstandingly well on his own as it is

I didn't make out anything mate, I stated facts. What you drew from it is down to yourself.

Fact is he's on his own and is doing great but he's still managed to be extremely wasteful in some games.

All I'm advocating is he's not a number 9, he needs to be playing off someone a bit more clinical.

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I was thinking about this yesterday....does he have to create his own because nobody else is on his wavelength? Or is he not on everyone elses wavelength. I know there's a wavelength problem somewhere anyway. He is fantastic at what he does but I'm not sure how great for the team he is as a whole.

Look at the number of assists he has this season.

[Pablo]

I didn't make out anything mate, I stated facts. What you drew from it is down to yourself.

Fact is he's on his own and is doing great but he's still managed to be extremely wasteful in some games.

All I'm advocating is he's not a number 9, he needs to be playing off someone a bit more clinical.

You manipulated the stats to suit your agenda. When have you ever heard stats about the games players haven't scored in?

The fact is he's got 6 goals in 9 games (should be 7), and that's a brilliant start as far as I'm concerned.

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Are you on glue? 6/9 league games is a brilliant return for anyone and only Ba and Van Persie have more. (7)

The burden shouldn't all be on Suarez, but calling a rate of 0.67/1 good is underselling it badly.

Dividing goals scored by games played doesn't give an accurate picture of a strikers goalscoring habits does it

Would we rather one who scores a goal a game or thereabouts or one who scores in spells and then none at all for a while. I'd rather both.

I'll say it again for you all that seem to be missing the point. He's great but he needs help, he's not a lead the line kind of guy and we'll never win leagues relying on him alone to score goals.

[kris90210]

You manipulated the stats to suit your agenda. When have you ever heard stats about the games players haven't scored in?

The fact is he's got 6 goals in 9 games (should be 7), and that's a brilliant start as far as I'm concerned.

Every striker misses good chances. 20 in a season is the benchmark for a top premiership striker and he's well on his way to achieving that. This 'he's not a goal scorer' is becoming a bit like the old zonal marking argument the media used to peddle - it doesn't stand up under scrutiny.

We need more goals from the other players in the team. We play with 3 forwards, and only 1 is scoring. We could do with a few more goals from midfield as well - Gerrard especially, as he's the one given most freedom to get forward.

[wiw]

Come on mate, he is fantastic for the team, no doubts at all. He just needs a bit of support in and around the box and he will be even more devastating and hopefully become clinical.

Look at the number of assists he has this season.

Don't get me wrong you can't knock his numbers..not entirely sure what my point was to be honest Perhaps he just needs some quicker thinkers in and around him, which is why i'm frothing at the gash thinking about Allen pushed further up the pitch

[wiw]

The answer's in here somewhere but I'll be ****ed if I can find it:

[Pablo]

Dividing goals scored by games played doesn't give an accurate picture of a strikers goalscoring habits does it

Would we rather one who scores a goal a game or thereabouts or one who scores in spells and then none at all for a while. I'd rather both.

I'll say it again for you all that seem to be missing the point. He's great but he needs help, he's not a lead the line kind of guy and we'll never win leagues relying on him alone to score goals.

If he carries on at this ratio (6 goals in 9 games), he will end up with approximately 25 Premier League goals this season. I'd say that's more than enough for him to be contributing.