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  • Sarb
    Doomed, we're all doomed!
    • Jun 2007
    • 11302

    #6721
    I think if we did challenge the FA punishment system, which is a farce, we would have an ally in Chelsea. Suarez deserves a ban but anything more than 5/6 games is wrong. They let plenty violent incidents go. No one saw Rio on Torres. They let Rio off. We do need to stand up for Suarez too if they proper shaft him. Personally never known a statement like that by the FA

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    • Imy
      Jalebi Cook
      • Apr 2007
      • 15883

      #6722
      Originally posted by Phoenix07
      FIFA haven't cleared Suarez of that punch during the Uruguay game yet either.
      Have Uruguay go any games in the summer?

      In an ideal world 5/6 game domestic ban and summer international ban means a nicely refreshed Suarez for us next season.
      We come not to play.

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      • Chazza
        Des Lynam
        • Jan 2007
        • 31141

        #6723
        Originally posted by Sarb
        I think if we did challenge the FA punishment system, which is a farce, we would have an ally in Chelsea. Suarez deserves a ban but anything more than 5/6 games is wrong. They let plenty violent incidents go. No one saw Rio on Torres. They let Rio off. We do need to stand up for Suarez too if they proper shaft him. Personally never known a statement like that by the FA

        No chance of us challenging the ban.

        We will accept it, hope to draw a line under it and move on.

        Challenging it would be a huge PR disaster.

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        • G
          Paisley
          • Aug 2006
          • 16686

          #6724
          Originally posted by Phoenix07
          FIFA haven't cleared Suarez of that punch during the Uruguay game yet either.
          With any luck they'll ban him and he'll have a football free summer for the first time in years.

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          • Baracus
            Roggy
            • Jan 2009
            • 7307

            #6725
            Originally posted by Alex
            Agree on that system. I like the Rugby way of doing things.
            I took the idea from Rugby

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            • Phoenix07
              The Normal One
              • Sep 2008
              • 10405

              #6726
              Originally posted by Imy
              Have Uruguay go any games in the summer?

              In an ideal world 5/6 game domestic ban and summer international ban means a nicely refreshed Suarez for us next season.
              They've got the Confederations Cup.

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              • Sarb
                Doomed, we're all doomed!
                • Jun 2007
                • 11302

                #6727
                Originally posted by Chazza
                No chance of us challenging the ban.

                We will accept it, hope to draw a line under it and move on.

                Challenging it would be a huge PR disaster.
                Yeah. I agree with what you say. It would be bad PR. But I really fear for Luis with size of ban

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                • Ams12
                  Dalglish
                  • May 2012
                  • 2703

                  #6728
                  Bloody van panzy scored a hatrick 2nite too

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                  • Alex
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 37058

                    #6729
                    Originally posted by Sarb
                    Yeah. I agree with what you say. It would be bad PR. But I really fear for Luis with size of ban
                    Shouldn't have bit the bloke then.
                    *Except Michael, who died.

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                    • Exiled_red
                      Paisley
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 55256

                      #6730
                      I hate the whole, if it was dealt with at the time the FA can't take further action, I understand why it's there (so as not to undermine the referees) but it creates a two tier system, recently players McManaman and Aguero have got away with some truly awful tackles.

                      I mention this because I was reading the report from Defoe-Mascherano incident and found this:

                      The Football Association will take no action against Tottenham striker Jermain Defoe over the biting incident in Sunday's game with West Ham.
                      Defoe seemed to bite the arm of Javier Mascherano after he was fouled by the midfielder, with both players booked by referee Steve Bennett.

                      An FA spokesman said: "We are unable to take any action because the referee has already dealt with the incident.

                      "Fifa regulations prevent us from taking retrospective action."

                      Manchester City defender Ben Thatcher was punished by the FA after the event earlier this season when his forearm smash left Portsmouth midfielder Pedro Mendes in hospital.

                      However, that incident was deemed as exceptional because Mendes suffered serious injury but in most cases, the FA's hands are tied because of Fifa's stance on the issue of retrospective punishment.

                      Defoe felt his actions had been "blown out of all proportion".


                      From the Suarez-Ivanovic incident
                      The FA said the match officials had not seen it during the game at Anfield and it had been "retrospectively reviewed".

                      It added that, while the standard punishment for violent conduct was a three-match ban, that was "clearly insufficient in these circumstances".
                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22250458

                      So in Defoe's case the bite was not exceptional enough to want the FA to bring punishment against Defoe, but in the Suarez case a 3 match ban would be insufficient which presumably make it an exceptional circumstance. Where is the consistency?

                      Given the negative publicity we got last time I think we just need to quietly accept whatever punishment is handed out, rather than kick up a huge fuss about it for PR reasons, but for me this shows the inconsistency of the FA.
                      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                      • Muddled
                        Meat Shield
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 25665

                        #6731
                        Originally posted by Sarb
                        I think if we did challenge the FA punishment system, which is a farce, we would have an ally in Chelsea. Suarez deserves a ban but anything more than 5/6 games is wrong. They let plenty violent incidents go. No one saw Rio on Torres. They let Rio off. We do need to stand up for Suarez too if they proper shaft him. Personally never known a statement like that by the FA
                        I think it can be dangerous to draw similarities between previous bans handed out by the FA; they treat each case on its own merits and go along with the media backlash ... all the while ignoring any previous bans as a benchmark.

                        The comment about three not being enough, makes me think doubling it would be adequate.

                        Originally posted by Chazza
                        No chance of us challenging the ban.

                        We will accept it, hope to draw a line under it and move on.

                        Challenging it would be a huge PR disaster.
                        Yup.

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                        • Exiled_red
                          Paisley
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 55256

                          #6732
                          Originally posted by Chazza
                          No chance of us challenging the ban.

                          We will accept it, hope to draw a line under it and move on.

                          Challenging it would be a huge PR disaster.


                          The best thing we could do is just submit a strong defence, and hope to minimize the ban that way, I don't think an appeal is sensible for PR reasons and secondly because it would push any ban further into next season.
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          • Sarb
                            Doomed, we're all doomed!
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 11302

                            #6733
                            Could they go more than the ban for racism? They have no consistency in punishment they dish out. It's borderline discriminatory.

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                            • Neil Young
                              Prosecco Socialist
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 62564

                              #6734
                              Suárez is in the wrong. No one is going to challenge any sanction he gets.
                              .
                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                              May the Lord bless this post.

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                              • Sarb
                                Doomed, we're all doomed!
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 11302

                                #6735
                                Originally posted by Neil Young
                                Suárez is in the wrong. No one is going to challenge any sanction he gets.
                                Even if they went say 12 games?

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