Luis Suárez

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Marina
    Marooned
    • Aug 2012
    • 3068

    #9856
    Originally posted by Shaggy
    Fingers crossed
    ahhhhhhhhh I hope the sign Bale and Cavani and leave us alone!

    closest thing to a praying smiley haha

    Comment

    • Norbs
      Big Girl's Blouse
      • Jun 2007
      • 42637

      #9857
      Originally posted by Marina
      If all the speculation is to be believed, then all I have to say is this:

      It might be unrealistic and therefore moot, but I just wish that Suarez would give us another season so we know our chances of pushing on are high. Obviously, there are no guarantees in football (or anything in life), and him staying doesn't mean we'll do any better next season. The likelihood, however, is quite high, as opposed to the almost certain stagnation we will encounter if he leaves. I understand that he is in the prime of his career and that it would be much more cushy and nice living in Spain, competing for top honours with a team like Real Madrid, but isn't there just as much honour in helping a former great back to its best? Honestly, I ask myself that sometimes: if all of these footballers were retired and I were reading about their careers, I would respect the ones who stayed with an "average" team in spite of their world-class talent and helped it go on to achieve bigger and better things more than the ones who ****ed off to "better" teams and perhaps achieved success, but were less important to their team in the process.

      Yes, I'm aware, there are holes in this logic. It just doesn't hold up, given the way football works and how players/agents/etc think. And obviously I have a deep personal bias, but I never lived during Liverpool's greatest years and I still think it's one of the biggest clubs on the planet. If Real Madrid comes in and tables a bid, offers Suarez higher wages and a starting berth in a title-challenging, Champions League-competing team, then for all intents and purposes, he will go. But there is so much more than material value for him in staying at Liverpool. I can't be objective, but I think I would think this regardless of my sporting loyalties (unless I were a Madrid fan... a Madridista *gag*), if I were him and I were lying on my death bed, I would be a lot more content with having stayed at Liverpool in the 2013/14 season and helping them qualify for the Champions League again than going to a money-flushed, cuntish Spanish team before I had the chance.

      Again there is obviously nothing guaranteeing that we would qualify for the Champions League even if he stayed sooo this argument is probably incoherent but whatever! I just wanted to get it off my chest.
      That's by no means a fact, Marina. We have forever (recent history) been a team reliant on one or two star players and it's clear to me that BR has made great strides to get us away from that tag. Without Luis in the side we've coped well and haven't struggled to score. He scores such a high percentage of the goals in games he plays because he is so focused on getting in to a goal scoring position but this can have a negative affect on the team when he's eased out of the game.

      Without Suarez 2012/13 W 5 D 0 L 1 Win percentage 83%

      Let's say for a moment that our squad is valued at £240m, that means Suarez is the equivalent of 1/6th of the value of the entire squad. Anyone in finance would say that our exposure is too high and then we'd need to spread our stock more evenly. I'm almost certain that the club has weighed up the risk and decided that should he wish to go then they wont stand in his way. Provided BR gets all the money on top of his transfer pot then I think we can strengthen the squad in many places and give ourselves a better chance to improve.

      Having said that, I know what you mean that if our star players had the commitment that Stevie has showed that we'd have seen Torres and Suarez playing together and could now be looking forward to CL football. Sadly though, the players don't look at it this way. Their careers end when they stop playing and they're not really bothered about legacies

      Comment

      • McDermotX
        Paisley
        • Aug 2006
        • 35360

        #9858
        Still....they're big boys, and well able to be responsible for what comes out of their mouth.


        We should probably still sacrifice him to our god to be on the safe side.
        "I will make the boys feel your support"
        Jurgen Klopp June 2020

        Comment

        • Kenneth
          Pond Scum
          • May 2007
          • 65633

          #9859
          Originally posted by Norbs
          I wake up every day and think, 'Susannah, I'd never get bored of waking up next to you' and then a few minutes later Carol Kirkland comes on doing the weather and I think, 'wowsers, she's got a great chest for an old bird'
          Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

          Comment

          • Shackanory
            Shirty
            • Dec 2012
            • 467

            #9860
            My translation of the interview is the one that's gone viral. Just seen this.
            @sidlowe 13m
            Suarez interview hasn't been lost in translation, no. Translations I've seen accurate.
            Rome wasn't built in a day, but it wasn't built by the apprentice either.

            Comment

            • Marina
              Marooned
              • Aug 2012
              • 3068

              #9861
              Originally posted by Norbs
              That's by no means a fact, Marina. We have forever (recent history) been a team reliant on one or two star players and it's clear to me that BR has made great strides to get us away from that tag. Without Luis in the side we've coped well and haven't struggled to score. He scores such a high percentage of the goals in games he plays because he is so focused on getting in to a goal scoring position but this can have a negative affect on the team when he's eased out of the game.

              Without Suarez 2012/13 W 5 D 0 L 1 Win percentage 83%

              Let's say for a moment that our squad is valued at £240m, that means Suarez is the equivalent of 1/6th of the value of the entire squad. Anyone in finance would say that our exposure is too high and then we'd need to spread our stock more evenly. I'm almost certain that the club has weighed up the risk and decided that should he wish to go then they wont stand in his way. Provided BR gets all the money on top of his transfer pot then I think we can strengthen the squad in many places and give ourselves a better chance to improve.

              Having said that, I know what you mean that if our star players had the commitment that Stevie has showed that we'd have seen Torres and Suarez playing together and could now be looking forward to CL football. Sadly though, the players don't look at it this way. Their careers end when they stop playing and they're not really bothered about legacies
              I suppose you're right. I'm still conditioned to being sort of hysterical and expecting only bad things to happen when it comes to Liverpool

              Comment

              • danperkins
                Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                • May 2010
                • 50408

                #9862
                Originally posted by Norbs
                That's by no means a fact, Marina. We have forever (recent history) been a team reliant on one or two star players and it's clear to me that BR has made great strides to get us away from that tag. Without Luis in the side we've coped well and haven't struggled to score. He scores such a high percentage of the goals in games he plays because he is so focused on getting in to a goal scoring position but this can have a negative affect on the team when he's eased out of the game.

                Without Suarez 2012/13 W 5 D 0 L 1 Win percentage 83%

                Let's say for a moment that our squad is valued at £240m, that means Suarez is the equivalent of 1/6th of the value of the entire squad. Anyone in finance would say that our exposure is too high and then we'd need to spread our stock more evenly. I'm almost certain that the club has weighed up the risk and decided that should he wish to go then they wont stand in his way. Provided BR gets all the money on top of his transfer pot then I think we can strengthen the squad in many places and give ourselves a better chance to improve.

                Having said that, I know what you mean that if our star players had the commitment that Stevie has showed that we'd have seen Torres and Suarez playing together and could now be looking forward to CL football. Sadly though, the players don't look at it this way. Their careers end when they stop playing and they're not really bothered about legacies
                gutted if we lose him but not end of the world.

                Comment

                • Mostar
                  Chief Scout
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 23194

                  #9863
                  Originally posted by danperkins
                  If he goes we have to get maximum money for him, can't be getting screwed over !
                  Aye.

                  We don't sell unless we get what we think is his fair value.

                  My concerns are about what we will do with the money as we've been incredibly poor in trying to replace top players over last few years.
                  Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

                  Comment

                  • danperkins
                    Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                    • May 2010
                    • 50408

                    #9864
                    Originally posted by Mostar
                    Aye.

                    We don't sell unless we get what we think is his fair value.

                    My concerns are about what we will do with the money as we've been incredibly poor in trying to replace top players over last few years.
                    Yeh i hear ya mate.

                    Hopefully we can be shrewd in our signings this season god knows we need to be.... especially if Suarez goes.

                    Comment

                    • Fosterbloke
                      Run the Jewels
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 39095

                      #9865
                      I don't know anything about Dimao but Soldado looks really good and Sturridge can lead the line very effectively like he did at Bolton.
                      Was mu

                      Comment

                      • Norbs
                        Big Girl's Blouse
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 42637

                        #9866
                        We wont get a penny over £40m which still represents a fair profit and will do wonders for Brendan's rebuild program.

                        I love Luis but Suarez has become a circus that maybe we could do without.

                        Comment

                        • Shaggy
                          Unidentified Rascal
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 135533

                          #9867
                          Suárez has a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave in the event of a club making a substantial offer - Tony Barrett
                          Thanks very much for being

                          Comment

                          • chadrtc
                            Dalglish
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4063

                            #9868
                            I hope the contract isn't that vague!
                            Cult Member. Nazi puncher.

                            Comment

                            • Arn
                              Alway confused
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 7129

                              #9869
                              Originally posted by Mostar
                              Aye.

                              We don't sell unless we get what we think is his fair value.

                              My concerns are about what we will do with the money as we've been incredibly poor in trying to replace top players over last few years.
                              We should let Rodgers sign the players he want and build the squad to fit his tactics and playing style.

                              Kenny spent a lot of money on players like Carroll, Downing and Henderson but FSG simply must continue to back the manager and let him build the squad.

                              If the owners don't trust him enough then sack him and get in a manager they trust to build the squad.

                              They simply must trust the manager.

                              If Rodgers want to sign a 28 year old player for £30m and we can afford it then FSG should do all they can to sign him.

                              If the manager fails then you replace him but you have given him a fair chance.

                              We the fans could accept that Kenny got sacked because he got a fair chance.
                              Stop the cyberhate


                              from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                              Susan Black

                              Comment

                              • Shaggy
                                Unidentified Rascal
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 135533

                                #9870
                                Barrett also apparently reporting the clause is in excess of £40m.
                                Thanks very much for being

                                Comment

                                Working...