Luis Suárez

[Arn]

You seem to be under the impression that racism comes from using racially stigmatised words alone, whereas this is compete nonsense. He made repeated references to Evra's race while arguing with him.

You're also contradicting yourself by suggesting you know the term he used a couple of posts after saying you don't know what he said.

No evidence that he did it more than one time and the only evidence out there is that he used a word that isn't racist.

Evra changed his story many times, Suarez didn't.

Poyet thinks, as others have suggested, that Suarez might have used the word "negrito", and that it was misinterpreted by Evra. "In Uruguay it is a nickname for someone whose skin is darker than the rest," he explains. "It is not offensive. Such people are part of our society. We will defend them, go to war with them, share everything with them, and at the same time use that word. But I do understand that in England the word is used differently, so we have to pay attention how we use it. We need to adapt. Do we as foreigners need to adapt more to England than England to us? Yes, of course. That's common sense. I know things Luis Suarez does not know because I have been here 14 years. So let's use common sense and give the kid a chance."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/gus-poyet-negrito-isnt-offensive-such-people-are-part-of-our-society-we-go-to-war-with-them-and-at-the-same-time-use-that-word-6267587.html

[Sarb]

No evidence that he did it more than one time and the only evidence out there is that he used a word that isn't racist.

Evra changed his story many times, Suarez didn't.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...d-6267587.html

Arn, it's a racist word. End of.

[danperkins]

Arn, it's a racist word. End of.

[Kenneth]

No evidence that he did it more than one time and the only evidence out there is that he used a word that isn't racist.

Evra changed his story many times, Suarez didn't.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...d-6267587.html

It's a reference to skin colour. Suarez knew it was a sensitive term and his defence was based on it being a jovial and friendly term. Only he wasn't using it an jovial and friendly situation, he was using it in an argument. The whole 'nigrito' defence is is bollocks, and it also assumes that it was the term used.

It was out of order and he was rightfully punished. Excessively? Maybe, maybe not.

[James P]

So.

- He's an idiot
- He's a racist
- He's a cannibal
- He's a cheat
- He's a rodent
- He's a foreigner
- He's ugly
- He's a mercenary
- He's a liar
- He hates Ayre
- Ayre loves him
- He hates Brendan
- Brendan loves him

Anything else?

You've got to stop talking about yourself in the third person, Nigey.

[Rowan]

No evidence that he did it more than one time and the only evidence out there is that he used a word that isn't racist.

Evra changed his story many times, Suarez didn't.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...d-6267587.html

I agree on the Evra point. No evidence he used it 8 times. However, my friend, he did admit to making reference to Evra's ethnicity or colour once and that is enough for me to agree that his punishment was fair. My issue that followed that is that Terry's wasn't the same length and on that point you are right. There was disproportionate treatment of two identical cases. Terry should have got 8 matches.

And Poyet "think" Suarez "may have" are the key words in that article.

Look Arn. What are you saying here. Are you saying that having admitted that he used certain racially offensive words he should have been let off?

[Norbs]

No evidence that he did it more than one time and the only evidence out there is that he used a word that isn't racist.

Evra changed his story many times, Suarez didn't.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...d-6267587.html

The first line says 'we go to war with them' so by their own admission they are defining a race by it's colour. Isn't this racism?

[Paddy]

Negro isn't a racist word. Anyone with any grasp of the English language will tell you that.

[Tee]

It is all about context but the word negro can easily be deemed racist in this country. Naïve and offensive to think otherwise.

[kev776]

**** me, reinventing the wheel again.

[Paddy]

Well people's stupidity offends me then. It's all gone too pc.

Ill be careful the next time I say Caucasian, Pakistani etc, just in case someone thinks its racist.

[dom9]

Is it me, or are some of you changing your tune iro the Suarez racism thing? The generally accepted view on here at least was that he was naive to use the language he did due to cultural differences, and that we was harshly persecuted by all and sundry as a result.

Today, the general consensus apart from Arn is that his behaviour was indeed unacceptable, and he was being racist.

[Tee]

Ill be careful the next time I say Caucasian, Pakistani etc, just in case someone thinks its racist.

Very prudent thinking.

[Tee]

Is it me, or are some of you changing your tune iro the Suarez racism thing? The generally accepted view on here at least was that he was naive to use the language he did due to cultural differences, and that we was harshly persecuted by all and sundry as a result.

Today, the general consensus apart from Arn is that his behaviour was indeed unacceptable, and he was being racist.

He wants to leave now - perceptions immediately change.

[kev776]

It is all about context but the word negro can easily be deemed racist in this country. Naïve and offensive to think otherwise.