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  • ChesterDave
    Paisley
    • Oct 2010
    • 32224

    #6631
    Originally posted by Philgas
    But despite all the goals and the assists, Brendan Rodgers’ side have still had a mediocre season with Suarez a virtual ever-present.
    In fact, Liverpool’s win percentage in all competitions WITH Suarez is just 37 per cent — that's just 16 wins in 43 games.
    When their Uruguayan talisman has not played this year, the Reds have actually fared very well — winning five out of their six fixtures without Suarez.
    With Suarez
    W
    D
    L
    Win percentage
    2012-13
    16
    14
    13
    37
    2011-12
    17
    10
    12
    44
    2010-11
    7
    2
    4
    54
    Overall
    40
    26
    29
    42
    This win percentage of 83 would be more impressive if the opposition had been stronger — with the majority of those wins against minnows in the Europa League, although a 3-2 win at West Ham in the Prem is nothing to be sniffed at.
    In 2012-13, Liverpool’s offered up a 44 win percentage WITH Suarez.
    But when the Reds had to make do without the striker during his eight-match ban for racially abusing Manchester United’s Patrice Evra, their form actually IMPROVED.
    Liverpool managed to win seven of their 12 matches without Suarez that season — including a victory over Manchester United in the FA Cup, League Cup wins against Chelsea and Manchester City and Premier League wins over Newcastle, Wolves and Blackburn.
    Without Suarez
    W
    D
    L
    Win percentage
    2012-13
    5
    0
    1
    83
    2011-12
    7
    2
    3
    58
    2010-11
    1
    0
    0
    100
    Overall
    13
    2
    4
    68
    The season before, Suarez joined the Reds in January and could only play in the Premier League games — missing just the impressive win away to Chelsea.
    These stats may suggest Liverpool CAN cope without their talisman.
    I tried to find the source for your post. Either you are Albanian or shouldn't by copying that.
    Football without Origi is nothing

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    • little dave hedgehog
      Token Yank
      • Mar 2009
      • 29963

      #6632
      Originally posted by Imy
      Most of us at the game didn't see it, certainly not the ref's fault (he had an otherwise **** game officiating though )
      dave of mutilation

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      • Baracus
        Roggy
        • Jan 2009
        • 7307

        #6633
        I can't believe some are advocating selling him if he misses games at the start of next season.

        We've signed plenty of players who have either been injured or just been completely crap at the start of the season. Selling the star player because he may miss games at the start of next season, no chance.

        Also Arns very long winded post on Suarez having an affect on our marketing revenues. Have you seen the affect Cantona had on Utd after the event? You don't market Suarez or types of players like him to Parents. He sleeps football, eats football, he is football. A marketing dream. Passion you can't buy that. If you want a dullard to Market go see Micheal Owen.

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        • McDermotX
          Paisley
          • Aug 2006
          • 35360

          #6634
          Originally posted by dom9
          A bit harsh on Shacka if I'm completely honest.
          "I will make the boys feel your support"
          Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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          • red g
            • Jul 2006
            • 29964

            #6635
            Originally posted by Baracus
            I can't believe some are advocating selling him if he misses games at the start of next season.

            We've signed plenty of players who have either been injured or just been completely crap at the start of the season. Selling the star player because he may miss games at the start of next season, no chance.

            Also Arns very long winded post on Suarez having an affect on our marketing revenues. Have you seen the affect Cantona had on Utd after the event? You don't market Suarez or types of players like him to Parents. He sleeps football, eats football, he is football. A marketing dream. Passion you can't buy that. If you want a dullard to Market go see Micheal Owen.
            thats his next trick
            _____________________________________

            Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

            Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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            • Aj34
              Benitez
              • Mar 2013
              • 933

              #6636
              Gary Neville sticking up for Louis. Not for what he's done but for what's happened since. Hated him when he played for united but he's turned into a top pundit

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              • Imy
                Jalebi Cook
                • Apr 2007
                • 15883

                #6637
                Originally posted by Baracus
                I can't believe some are advocating selling him if he misses games at the start of next season.

                We've signed plenty of players who have either been injured or just been completely crap at the start of the season. Selling the star player because he may miss games at the start of next season, no chance.

                Also Arns very long winded post on Suarez having an affect on our marketing revenues. Have you seen the affect Cantona had on Utd after the event? You don't market Suarez or types of players like him to Parents. He sleeps football, eats football, he is football. A marketing dream. Passion you can't buy that. If you want a dullard to Market go see Micheal Owen.
                We come not to play.

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                • red g
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 29964

                  #6638
                  Originally posted by Aj34
                  Gary Neville sticking up for Louis. Not for what he's done but for what's happened since. Hated him when he played for united but he's turned into a top pundit
                  Didnt have much to beat, but he really is excellentl
                  _____________________________________

                  Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                  Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                  • G
                    Paisley
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 16686

                    #6639
                    Cantona came back and drove that team on to win the double.

                    That was the effect he had!

                    Selling Suarez for making a mistake is ****ing ludicrous and I can't take anybody seriously who thinks we should do it.

                    Cantona, Suarez, Maradona,Zidane.

                    All geniuses, all a bit ****ing mental too.

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                    • Baracus
                      Roggy
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 7307

                      #6640
                      Adidas come across as a bunch of pussy's in the marketing world

                      Nike Stuck with Cantona and Tiger Woods, maybe Kobe too [not sure if he was with Nike] they were the last ones to ditch Lance Armstrong.

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                      • Aj34
                        Benitez
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 933

                        #6641
                        Originally posted by red g
                        Didnt have much to beat, but he really is excellentl
                        Agree. Thought andy Gray would take some beating. His analysis of matches was second to none

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                        • dom9
                          Ant Pisser
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 69011

                          #6642
                          Originally posted by Aj34
                          Agree. Thought andy Gray would take some beating. His analysis of matches was second to none
                          Andy Gray could do with a beating.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                          • Mattshark
                            Still Blames Thatcher
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 24691

                            #6643
                            Originally posted by Philgas
                            But despite all the goals and the assists, Brendan Rodgers’ side have still had a mediocre season with Suarez a virtual ever-present.
                            In fact, Liverpool’s win percentage in all competitions WITH Suarez is just 37 per cent — that's just 16 wins in 43 games.
                            When their Uruguayan talisman has not played this year, the Reds have actually fared very well — winning five out of their six fixtures without Suarez.
                            With Suarez
                            W
                            D
                            L
                            Win percentage
                            2012-13
                            16
                            14
                            13
                            37
                            2011-12
                            17
                            10
                            12
                            44
                            2010-11
                            7
                            2
                            4
                            54
                            Overall
                            40
                            26
                            29
                            42
                            This win percentage of 83 would be more impressive if the opposition had been stronger — with the majority of those wins against minnows in the Europa League, although a 3-2 win at West Ham in the Prem is nothing to be sniffed at.
                            In 2012-13, Liverpool’s offered up a 44 win percentage WITH Suarez.
                            But when the Reds had to make do without the striker during his eight-match ban for racially abusing Manchester United’s Patrice Evra, their form actually IMPROVED.
                            Liverpool managed to win seven of their 12 matches without Suarez that season — including a victory over Manchester United in the FA Cup, League Cup wins against Chelsea and Manchester City and Premier League wins over Newcastle, Wolves and Blackburn.
                            Without Suarez
                            W
                            D
                            L
                            Win percentage
                            2012-13
                            5
                            0
                            1
                            83
                            2011-12
                            7
                            2
                            3
                            58
                            2010-11
                            1
                            0
                            0
                            100
                            Overall
                            13
                            2
                            4
                            68
                            The season before, Suarez joined the Reds in January and could only play in the Premier League games — missing just the impressive win away to Chelsea.
                            These stats may suggest Liverpool CAN cope without their talisman.
                            Plagiarism! Well done.

                            So, how many games has Suarez actually missed for us? Just one league game so this season I believe? So that is a worthless comparison.

                            How many games did he miss last season? I think it was just the 8 wasn't it? Not sure of the exact amount in the league.

                            And just one in the first half season here so that is not a worthwhile comparison either.

                            So he has missed under 10 league games in near two and a half seasons? I feel your sample size is too small.
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                            • Alex
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 37058

                              #6644
                              Not this again
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                              • Muddled
                                Meat Shield
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 25665

                                #6645
                                Originally posted by G
                                They've already decided.

                                The wording of the statement says they reckon 3 games is "clearly not sufficient".

                                So they've already judged him and decided how long he should get.

                                Wednesday is just a sideshow. Independent panel my arse.
                                Indeed.

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