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  • Sarb
    Doomed, we're all doomed!
    • Jun 2007
    • 11302

    #7111
    Originally posted by RedReet
    Not sure, but Barclay was on SSN saying he fully supports the Mails campaign to make an example of Suarez and he hopes they get the justice they deserve.
    Patrick Barclay you mean...who got ditched by the Times and compared Suarez to a drug dealer selling drugs to kids outside school gates on radio yesterday?

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    • G
      Paisley
      • Aug 2006
      • 16686

      #7112
      Originally posted by dom9
      Of all the articles posted above, I thought his was the weakest.

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      • dom9
        Ant Pisser
        • Aug 2006
        • 69011

        #7113
        Originally posted by G
        I don't think he's a particularly good journalist.

        When he was at the Echo, people liked him because he was perceived to be a reliable source of information and he stuck up the for the club.

        When he was at the NOTW, people disliked him because he was perceived to be an unreliable source of information and he got stuck into the club, plus he worked for the Sunday Sun.

        Now he is at the Telegraph, people are more ambivalent towards him.

        I guess people often judge football journos by how often they agree with their own opinions, rather than the quality of writing, investigation, interpretation, analysis and all the other stuff you should judge journalists by.
        Oh I don't know.

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        • Muddled
          Meat Shield
          • Jul 2010
          • 25665

          #7114
          It's all very odd this apparent u-turn in the media.

          Ian Herbert is - as usual - spot on, but I'm sure The Mirror has fickled itself into knots.

          Carragher's article is decent but surprised it's in there after the headline the Daily Mail parped t'other day.

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          • Neil Young
            Prosecco Socialist
            • Aug 2006
            • 62564

            #7115
            Originally posted by dom9
            I guess people often judge football journos by how often they agree with their own opinions, rather than the quality of writing, investigation, interpretation, analysis and all the other stuff you should judge journalists by.
            It's how a lot of people judge many things. It's certainly how George Osborne chose his experts on economic policy.

            It's good to be aware of the tendency, we're none of us immune.
            .
            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



            May the Lord bless this post.

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            • Shaggy
              Unidentified Rascal
              • Jul 2006
              • 135533

              #7116
              All I'll say is he has a better reputation with the journos I got to know, both as a writer and a source of reliable info, than another Liverpudlian journo who is held in much higher esteem by most fans.
              Thanks very much for being

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              • G
                Paisley
                • Aug 2006
                • 16686

                #7117
                Originally posted by dom9
                I don't think he's a particularly good journalist.

                When he was at the Echo, people liked him because he was perceived to be a reliable source of information and he stuck up the for the club.

                When he was at the NOTW, people disliked him because he was perceived to be an unreliable source of information and he got stuck into the club, plus he worked for the Sunday Sun.

                Now he is at the Telegraph, people are more ambivalent towards him.

                I guess people often judge football journos by how often they agree with their own opinions, rather than the quality of writing, investigation, interpretation, analysis and all the other stuff you should judge journalists by.
                Yeah I'd go along with that. Your assessment of his article was spot on too.

                Good work Dom

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                • dom9
                  Ant Pisser
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 69011

                  #7118
                  Originally posted by Neil Young
                  It's how a lot of people judge many things. It's certainly how George Osborne chose his experts on economic policy.

                  It's good to be aware of the tendency, we're none of us immune.
                  True, true.
                  Oh I don't know.

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                  • dom9
                    Ant Pisser
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 69011

                    #7119
                    Originally posted by Shaggy
                    All I'll say is he has a better reputation with the journos I got to know, both as a writer and a source of reliable info, than another Liverpudlian journo who is held in much higher esteem by most fans.
                    That's interesting.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                    • Neil Young
                      Prosecco Socialist
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 62564

                      #7120
                      Originally posted by Muddled
                      It's all very odd this apparent u-turn in the media.

                      Ian Herbert is - as usual - spot on, but I'm sure The Mirror has fickled itself into knots.

                      Carragher's article is decent but surprised it's in there after the headline the Daily Mail parped t'other day.
                      Yes, it's interesting but difficult to know why it's happened. Perhaps the club really has got its PR act together. Or maybe commonsense has broken out like measles. Or maybe it's just a useful way to keep the story going, stoke the controversy by switching angles, talking up one side, then the other. Maybe there's an influence of social media.

                      I imagine they all play a part.

                      But look - the Mail ran with the "dirty scum" line, Carragher had a piece published and now it seems to have changed line. Coincidence?

                      Does Carra 'write' regularly for the Mail or was it a one-off?
                      .
                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                      May the Lord bless this post.

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                      • Neil Young
                        Prosecco Socialist
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 62564

                        #7121
                        Originally posted by Shaggy
                        All I'll say is he has a better reputation with the journos I got to know, both as a writer and a source of reliable info, than another Liverpudlian journo who is held in much higher esteem by most fans.
                        Who? Jenkins?
                        .
                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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                        • Alex
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 37058

                          #7122
                          Originally posted by Neil Young
                          Yes, it's interesting but difficult to know why it's happened. Perhaps the club really has got its PR act together. Or maybe commonsense has broken out like measles. Or maybe it's just a useful way to keep the story going, stoke the controversy by switching angles, talking up one side, then the other. Maybe there's an influence of social media.

                          I imagine they all play a part.

                          But look - the Mail ran with the "dirty scum" line, Carragher had a piece published and now it seems to have changed line. Coincidence?

                          Does Carra 'write' regularly for the Mail or was it a one-off?
                          It certainly would be beneficial to the club to offer up Carra to write something for them.
                          *Except Michael, who died.

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                          • Pablo
                            Anti-Antipodeanite
                            • May 2007
                            • 25808

                            #7123
                            Originally posted by dom9
                            That's interesting.
                            Are we talking about Bascombe and Barrett here?

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                            • dom9
                              Ant Pisser
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 69011

                              #7124
                              Originally posted by Pablo1981
                              Are we talking about Bascombe and Barrett here?
                              Bascombe + (Barrett or Evans)
                              Oh I don't know.

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                              • G
                                Paisley
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 16686

                                #7125
                                Originally posted by Pablo1981
                                Are we talking about Bascombe and Barrett here?
                                I hope it's Evans but I took it as Barrett.

                                Interesting.

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