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  • Mostar
    Chief Scout
    • Jun 2009
    • 23194

    #12691
    Originally posted by Sarb
    Benteke said he isn't interested in joining us. We aren't interested in paying £25m for him either. When he signed for Villa, he thought it was in London. He wants to go to Spurs
    That cannot be true, can it?
    Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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    • Lecter
      Nicked from elsewhere
      • Jul 2006
      • 18261

      #12692
      Originally posted by Arn
      Well, you know that I think that we should have said no comments every day until we got the verdict. We didn't.

      I don't blame Suarez saying what he said to Evra because I don't know what he said. I don't believe what Evra said about it because he changed his version many times. Suarez didn't.

      IMO Evra and United saw a chance to unsettle our best player. We also know that Suarez never got a fair chance in the case because we messed his defense up and we was up against DBF and United. You can't blame the player for the way the club handled the defense.

      We made a mess when we defended him and we made a mess trying to protect him.
      We do know what Suarez said because he presented evidence to the FA panel to confirm what he said

      We may well have made a mess of the situation but there is no escaping the fact that Suarez was culpable
      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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      • Rowan
        Shankly
        • Aug 2006
        • 9223

        #12693
        Originally posted by Arn
        You can use the word he said without any problem in Netherlands but not in the UK.

        If you had lived in say Brazil for a year and before you moved there didn't had a clue what words isn't offending, racist etc would you in that year learn almost every word that is offending, racist etc, and I mean in portuguese.

        I think he used that word many times when he played in the Dutch league. No problem doing that there.

        He works against racism and would never IMO never use racist words that he know is racist.

        The way he said it of course also tells you if he knew that it was racist or not.

        Would he admitted it in an interview if he know that it was racist? I doubt that very much. He isn't that stupid.

        He could have got away with it if he had said nothing because the only evidence that exist is the words of the players but he didn't.
        Well if you want to advocate racism then that's your bag. Personally I think it's abhorant and indefensible but each to their own.
        A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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        • Sarb
          Doomed, we're all doomed!
          • Jun 2007
          • 11302

          #12694
          Originally posted by Mostar
          That cannot be true, can it?
          Oh it's true.

          Kristof Terreur ‏@HLNinEngeland 14h Christian #Benteke only wants to join Spurs. Liverpool made an enquiry, but he told them he wasn't interested. #LFC #AVFC #CFCDetails

          Billy Campbell ‏@BillyCampbell11 14h @HLNinEngeland is it true that he thought Aston Villa was in London ?

          Kristof Terreur ‏@HLNinEngeland 14h @BillyCampbell11 Yes.

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          • Arn
            Alway confused
            • Sep 2010
            • 7129

            #12695
            Originally posted by Rowan
            Well if you want to advocate racism then that's your bag. Personally I think it's abhorant and indefensible but each to their own.
            I don't advocate racism.

            The word he said isn't a racist word in the language he said it and that is what counts. Nothing else.

            If he wanted to use a racist word then IMO he would have used one. He didn't.
            Stop the cyberhate


            from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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            • Rowan
              Shankly
              • Aug 2006
              • 9223

              #12696
              Originally posted by Arn
              I don't advocate racism.

              The word he said isn't a racist word in the language he said it and that is what counts. Nothing else.

              If he wanted to use a racist word then IMO he would have used one. He didn't.
              He wasn't in Kansas anymore it was racist!

              Furthermore he'd been in England for close to a year at the time. It's not like he'd fallen off a plane from some uncivilised backwater and been thrust in the first team a second later. To say that he was unaware that the cultural issue existed is a bit far fetched.

              I love Suarez. He's a great player but I'm not defending that! He was completely, totally and utterly in the wrong and I'm staggered that you think it's acceptable to have said what he said.
              A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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              • Mostar
                Chief Scout
                • Jun 2009
                • 23194

                #12697
                Originally posted by Sarb
                Oh it's true.
                Wow
                Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                • Arn
                  Alway confused
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 7129

                  #12698
                  Originally posted by Rowan
                  He wasn't in Kansas anymore it was racist!

                  Furthermore he'd been in England for close to a year at the time. It's not like he'd fallen off a plane from some uncivilised backwater and been thrust in the first team a second later. To say that he was unaware that the cultural issue existed is a bit far fetched.

                  I love Suarez. He's a great player but I'm not defending that! He was completely, totally and utterly in the wrong and I'm staggered that you think it's acceptable to have said what he said.
                  Almost every Uruguayan would disagree with you. The word he said isn't racist. It doesn't become a racist word because he speaks it another country.

                  So the real experts out there would back me up, the Uruguayan people.
                  Stop the cyberhate


                  from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                  Susan Black

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                  • Pablo
                    Anti-Antipodeanite
                    • May 2007
                    • 25808

                    #12699
                    Oh God please let's not have this debate again!

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                    • saj
                      No sympathy
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 5067

                      #12700
                      Originally posted by Rowan
                      Well if you want to advocate racism then that's your bag. Personally I think it's abhorant and indefensible but each to their own.
                      Arn is not advocating racism there at all.
                      My kebab comes with chilli sauce

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                      • Buzzo
                        Donald Buzzworth
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 67435

                        #12701
                        Originally posted by Pablo1981
                        Oh God please let's not have this debate again!


                        At the last count we had a million billion posts on this topic and its nuances.
                        Modifying post.

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                        • Kenneth
                          Pond Scum
                          • May 2007
                          • 65633

                          #12702
                          Originally posted by Arn
                          Almost every Uruguayan would disagree with you. The word he said isn't racist. It doesn't become a racist word because he speaks it another country.

                          So the real experts out there would back me up, the Uruguayan people.
                          You seem to be under the impression that racism comes from using racially stigmatised words alone, whereas this is compete nonsense. He made repeated references to Evra's race while arguing with him.

                          You're also contradicting yourself by suggesting you know the term he used a couple of posts after saying you don't know what he said.
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                          • Kenneth
                            Pond Scum
                            • May 2007
                            • 65633

                            #12703
                            Originally posted by saj
                            Arn is not advocating racism there at all.
                            It's not that clear cut. I think he probably is but doesn't know it.
                            Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                            • Fredo
                              Not to be taken seriously
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 35173

                              #12704
                              We can't condone reecism. It's out of order.
                              Are we winning?

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                              • James P
                                This week, I have been mostly holding on too long
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 1693

                                #12705
                                Originally posted by Arn
                                I don't advocate racism.

                                The word he said isn't a racist word in the language he said it and that is what counts. Nothing else.

                                If he wanted to use a racist word then IMO he would have used one. He didn't.
                                Sorry Arn, but like Rowan has said, this argument simply doesn't hold water. When you live / work in another country you have to adopt the most significant of their conventions. If you cause offence because you failed to appreciate a fairly significant cultural difference then it's your own fault - you can't expect everyone else to fit around you.

                                And frankly, the notion that a derogatory comment based on race is acceptable in any country or any circumstance is so anachronistic as to be entirely nonsensical. What, you can be racist in South America because people there feel less oppressed and offended when you are, and their reduced offence renders it not racist?

                                What he said was wrong, and he was rightly punished. If we continue to try to excuse it we will start to look just as bad ourselves.

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