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  • Sarb
    Doomed, we're all doomed!
    • Jun 2007
    • 11302

    #17251
    Not sure if this was posted earlier

    REVEALED: Why Suarez is wrong to think he can leave Liverpool for £40m... here's the truth behind THAT contract clauseBy Dominic King
    PUBLISHED: 22:50 GMT, 7 August 2013 | UPDATED: 11:29 GMT, 8 August 2013


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    If you wanted to be generous to Luis Suarez, you might argue that on this occasion something really has been lost in translation.

    But as the details emerged on Wednesday night of the events that have led to this bitter, very public dispute between Suarez and Liverpool, it appears to amount to a spectacular cock-up.
    Suarez thinks there is a clause in the contract he signed last summer enabling him to leave should Liverpool receive an offer of more than £40million. But he is wrong.

    And so, for that matter, are his agent Pere Guardiola and the Spanish lawyer currently trying to engineer a transfer to a Champions League club for their unhappy, now isolated, client.

    Sportsmail can reveal the detail in Suarez’s contract, a form of words that sparked a heated debate between the two camps at a meeting in London on Monday.

    With officials from the Professional Footballers’ Association there as mediators, it was hoped some resolution could be found.

    Suarez, Guardiola and his lawyer believe they have a legally binding clause. Liverpool do not and nor do the PFA or the Premier League. Essentially what it says is this: if Liverpool do not qualify for the Champions League or if Liverpool receive a bid of more than £40m, the club will sit down ‘in good faith’ and discuss it.

    It is not even remotely close to a trigger clause that would enable the Uruguayan to leave. As one insider said on Wednesday night, the Suarez camp ‘dropped the ball when it came to the phrasing of that sentence in the contract. It is so heavily caveated it amounts to nothing. Legally it is worthless.’

    The Suarez camp did not enjoy Monday’s meeting and responded by inviting two Spain-based journalists to interview the 26-year-old striker, with his inflammatory words appearing in Wednesday’s papers.

    The Luis Suarez transfer saga has rumbled on all summer, and a man named Guardiola has been at the heart of it. But not the one you might think.

    Pere Guardiola is the younger brother of Bayern Munich manager Pep and is one of football’s most powerful agents. He represents Suarez and has looked after the Uruguayan since his days at Ajax.

    Now he is at the centre of the current transfer negotiations for his client. But Guardiola has already helped engineer two high-profile moves this summer.

    He represents his older brother Pep and was there to arrange his managerial move to Bayern. It should also come as no surprise that another of Guardiola’s clients, Thiago Alcantara, also moved to Bayern this summer, following his old Barcelona boss.

    Prior to working as a football agent, Guardiola worked in the sports marketing department at Nike for 12 years, before founding Media Base Sport in 2009, his Barcelona-based management company.

    Suarez turned his sights on Brendan Rodgers and claimed the manager made a verbal promise to let him go should they finish outside the top four last season.
    If the relationship between the two parties was fractured on Monday night, it had completely disintegrated by Wednesday, with Suarez told to train alone and men like Gordon Taylor, the PFA chairman, clearly wondering how on earth the situation can now be resolved.

    There are two possible outcomes, say insiders. If they can get the two parties back around the table. Liverpool might swallow deeply and agree to sell at £50m. Arsenal were badly advised in being led to believe their £40m-plus-a-pound offer would automatically secure Suarez’s services. It remains to be seen if they will increase their offer now they know that interpretation is flawed.

    If Liverpool refuse to be browbeaten into a sale, it could be that they agree to let Suarez leave for £40million a year from now, with a new clause inserted into his contract that is unequivocal.
    After much provocation, getting Liverpool to sit down might be the difficulty. The club certainly are in no mood to see their best player leave just yet. As Steven Gerrard starkly pointed out, a Liverpool team without Suarez is a team that will find entry to the Champions League almost impossible.


    PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor has seen the contract and confirmed: 'There is a clause in there that if Liverpool do not qualify for the Champions League and then they receive a minimum offer of £40million, then the parties will 'agree in good faith to discuss and negotiate in good faith' and see what transpires.

    'It is not a straightforwards buy-out clause and it doesn't say that is an automatic trigger for a move.'

    ‘Certain things have got to happen to help us get back into the top four and one of them is the main subject on everyone’s lips — Luis Suarez,’ said Gerrard earlier this month. ‘If we lose him, we are taking backward steps. If we keep him, and add to him, we will have a much better chance.’

    If Suarez departs, Liverpool’s race for a top-four spot may be over before a ball has even been kicked. The Liverpool of 2013 is not the Liverpool of 2004, which shook off the loss of star striker Michael Owen on the eve of the season and went on to win the Champions League.
    Liverpool have not played in Europe’s premier competition for four years and, as a result, the quality of their squad has diminished. Suarez, however, is a world-class talent, one Gerrard called the ‘best forward I have ever played with’.

    This Liverpool team cannot afford to off-load thoroughbreds and it is why they continue to fight to keep him.

    ‘We are not in the Champions League and haven’t been for a while and we have to step up to the challenge,’ Rodgers acknowledged last month. ‘It is difficult for Luis, I understand this. But we would love to have him for our next phase.’


    Liverpool’s preparations for the new campaign had been ticking along smoothly but now the air is toxic. A shadow has been cast, disruption is inevitable and the harmony that Rodgers and his staff have worked so hard to build has been threatened.

    Some in the camp are dismayed by his actions, others can see things from his side. Suddenly one player is creating two groups and an atmosphere is developing. That he has been sent into exile, to train on his own, will not help.

    Clubs who want to make progress cannot hope to do so if they off-load their best players to their major rivals. Suarez scored 30 times for Liverpool last season: where will they replace that if, as appears inevitable following his extraordinary interviews on Tuesday, he joins Arsenal?

    Not only that, consider the impact on both teams. They were separated by 12 points last year but that is not an insurmountable gap and Suarez would in all likelihood be worth 12 points for Liverpool. Last season, his goals and assists were directly responsible for 11 points.


    Liverpool midfielder Philippe Coutinho said: ‘Luis is on a par with Neymar in terms of qualities, for sure you can make that comparison. They are both exceptional players. We all hope he stays. Everyone here wants to play with top footballers and that is exactly what Luis is.’

    This is a season when Rodgers has to get Liverpool competing. He knows he will be under scrutiny from all angles once the first whistle blows against Stoke and, having made some big calls, he will be expected to deliver a team capable of competing with the best and being consistent.

    That is why, for all the outrage at the disrespect that has been shown, Liverpool won’t cave in easily to Suarez’s demands. They might be finding it hard to live with Suarez, but living without him could be even more uncomfortable.

    Whichever way this saga unravels, Suarez is in danger of damaging a crucial season.


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    • kingfunk
      Doesnt subscribe to Craig's conspiracy theories!
      • May 2008
      • 11751

      #17252
      Originally posted by Pablo1981
      We will. The window will have closed. He'll have had several weeks to accept his fate and cool off. He'll be desperate to play again. He'll be back to normal in no time.

      That won't stop this all re-surfacing in the January transfer window though
      If he stays this window, there is no chance imo he will go in January. It will be next summer.

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      • Kenneth
        Pond Scum
        • May 2007
        • 65633

        #17253
        Originally posted by kingfunk
        If he stays this window, there is no chance imo he will go in January. It will be next summer.
        How come?
        Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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        • badpiggy
          Special Kind of Scum
          • Nov 2006
          • 14174

          #17254
          Originally posted by Neil Young
          It's not necessarily inconsistent. Let's say he's genuine when he says he isn't desperate to leave LFC. And let's take him at his word that he wants (and perhaps even is desperate) to play in the Champions League.

          I realise they seem inconsistent from the outside - and in practice one negates the other - but I can see how they might not feel like it. One statement is about his feelings about still playing for LFC. The other is about his desire to play somewhere else. He's talking about different things.

          Of course he might be two-faced. But what seems a contradiction to one person might not seem like it to someone else.

          Are you actually trying to suggest that Suarez is anything other than a psychotic pantomime villain? That there might be some sort of psychological complexity here? **** me. Some ****in fan you are. **** off with the rest of the vole bumboy traitor ****houses whoring themselves around old toilet and that paedo wenger cunt.
          Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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          • Exiled_red
            Paisley
            • Nov 2007
            • 55256

            #17255
            This may be a dumb question but is everything as it seems, the picture yesterday of Suarez on his own at Melwood is that really because he has been banished or is it simply because the team had a game yesterday and he didn't travel?

            Secondly has he been back at pre-season training the same length of time as everyone else? I wondered if because of the ban he was on a different pre-season programme so that he would be at his peak when he is due to start playing matches again, he has had less involvement in preseason games than we might have expected, is this because of the transfer saga, a lack of effort or because of the way his fitness/availability is being managed?
            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            • kingfunk
              Doesnt subscribe to Craig's conspiracy theories!
              • May 2008
              • 11751

              #17256
              Originally posted by Kenneth
              How come?
              Where is the logic in refusing to sell him now then sell him in January?

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              • Pablo
                Anti-Antipodeanite
                • May 2007
                • 25808

                #17257
                Originally posted by kingfunk
                If he stays this window, there is no chance imo he will go in January. It will be next summer.
                Originally posted by Kenneth
                How come?
                I wasn't necessarily saying he'll go, although he might. I was saying the rumours would start up again.

                He wouldn't be cup tied for the Champions League though.

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                • Kenneth
                  Pond Scum
                  • May 2007
                  • 65633

                  #17258
                  Originally posted by kingfunk
                  Where is the logic in refusing to sell him now then sell him in January?
                  More £'s maybe.
                  Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                  • Kenneth
                    Pond Scum
                    • May 2007
                    • 65633

                    #17259
                    Originally posted by badpiggy
                    Are you actually trying to suggest that Suarez is anything other than a psychotic pantomime villain? That there might be some sort of psychological complexity here? **** me. Some ****in fan you are. **** off with the rest of the vole bumboy traitor ****houses whoring themselves around old toilet and that paedo wenger cunt.
                    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                    • kingfunk
                      Doesnt subscribe to Craig's conspiracy theories!
                      • May 2008
                      • 11751

                      #17260
                      If he does really well and scores **** loads of goals, keeps his head down and out of trouble, maybe we will be the ones offering him more wages.

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                      • Neil Young
                        Prosecco Socialist
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 62564

                        #17261
                        Originally posted by badpiggy
                        Are you actually trying to suggest that Suarez is anything other than a psychotic pantomime villain? That there might be some sort of psychological complexity here? **** me. Some ****in fan you are. **** off with the rest of the vole bumboy traitor ****houses whoring themselves around old toilet and that paedo wenger cunt.
                        .
                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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                        • RedAndWhite
                          Dalglish
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 4140

                          #17262
                          Originally posted by kingfunk
                          Where is the logic in refusing to sell him now then sell him in January?

                          Because Arsenal will not be in the C/L at that stage

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                          • lucas
                            Fagan
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1750

                            #17263
                            Originally posted by kingfunk
                            I think as soon as the transfer window shuts, if he is still here, we will see the real Suarez.
                            I think we are seeing the real Suarez now.
                            Jellyfish are 97% water or something, so how much are they doing? Just give them another 3% and make them water. It's more useful

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                            • tufty
                              Fagan
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1989

                              #17264
                              Originally posted by kingfunk
                              I think as soon as the transfer window shuts, if he is still here, we will see the real Suarez.
                              think we've all now seen the real Suarez


                              and he can **** right off for me, classless ****



                              Keep this quiet
                              if you carefully grind off the edges of a 50p coin you can use it as a 10p


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                              • Bender
                                Hodgsoned
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 37671

                                #17265
                                let him rot in the reserves...no way is he going to assnal

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