erm suraez is forcing himself out .........nobody told him to bite a player the first time and then have the nerve/audacity to do it again....what did he expect in all honesty a knighthood
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At the end of the day the FA reaction to this is cuntery but what it comes down to is Suarez bit a player, he left himself open to their idiocy. The season before he allegedly racially abused someone, and the season before that he bit someone.
no doubt the FA have thrown the book at him for persistent lunacy and even though the punishment is way over the top he only really has himself to blame
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Luis Suárez's mammoth ban caused by Liverpool's fatal mistake of challenging FA
Saying Luis Suarez only deserved a three-game ban undid much of Liverpool's good early work, says Graham Bean
By Graham Bean, Former FA compliance officer7:02AM BST 25 Apr 2013
Members of the Football Association’s compliance office will be grinning like Cheshire cats this morning. They realised this was a case in which they needed to be seen to apply swift, decisive action, and deliver a strong message to the game and they have done that.
When taking other factors into account, however, it may well be that criticism comes not in the direction of Luis Suárez and Liverpool but instead towards the FA.
When even the Prime Minister has said Suárez ought be given an exemplary sanction, a 10-game ban does feel like the FA disciplinary panel blowing with the wind.
Many see the eight-game punishment meted out to Suárez for racially abusing Patrice Evra as a sign of weakness from those at the governing body, so it appears the FA wanted to make sure that it got this one right.
I am in favour of the FA’s fast-track disciplinary system, which in this case has seen a ban applied fewer than three days after the incident. But my concern is that there are times when a case is so serious it needs more time for consideration. I think that should have happened this time.
The FA’s rules meant Suárez was guaranteed a minimum three-match suspension, so that would have given the FA three weeks to decide how many more matches should be added. There was no need to rush this case through while emotions were still running high while Suárez should have been given more time to prepare a mitigation case.
But Liverpool must themselves take some of the blame for the length of the suspension. After grabbing the moral high ground earlier in the week by dealing with the matter swiftly and strongly, I believe that they made a fatal mistake when challenging the assertion from the FA that the punishment should be more than three matches.
It was clear to anyone with any knowledge of the disciplinary process that the action of biting another player in the manner in which he did was worthy of more than the standard penalty.
By challenging that I think that between them Suárez and Liverpool brought about the mammoth ban. If Suárez had simply accepted the charge it is highly likely he would have received credit for doing so and at the same time saved himself a couple of games.
Liverpool’s next dilemma is whether or not to appeal against the decision. My advice would be take it on the chin and move on.
Graham Bean was the Football Association’s compliance officer between 1999 and 2003. He now represents leading clubs and players in disciplinary matters through his Football Factors advisory company
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Bull****.Originally posted by Chazza View PostBy challenging that I think that between them Suárez and Liverpool brought about the mammoth ban. If Suárez had simply accepted the charge it is highly likely he would have received credit for doing so and at the same time saved himself a couple of games.
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This!!!Originally posted by Shaggy View PostI hate the FA more than I can possibly articulate. ****ing cunts.
Plus I my blood is boiling right now. Some manc **** who I have never spoken to before, came into my office and started mouthing off about Suarez being a rabid dog etc..... He was dispatched quickly and loudly with. "Get out of my ****ing office or you will have no ****ing teeth to eat your ****ing prawns sandwiches with"
There is an strange silence outside of my office right now
Cunt!!!
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From the papers this morning I'd say it's either Suarez's agent putting out a come get me or the club preparing the excuses for selling him. Forced to leave, hounded out.... all sound better than it's time to cash in, see ya.
All the papers saying pretty much the same thing so someone's been talking to them.Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad
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Originally posted by Shackanory View PostFor what it's worth, a few Ajax fans and Dutch journo's I've spoken to think he did it in Holland to give himself an escape route out of the club.Originally posted by Shackanory View PostJust seems a bit suss to me, at the minute at least. First he does an interview in Uruguay saying he'd listen to offers from other clubs and see what was on the table, then he gets himself a 10 game ban, now all of a sudden he's considering his future?I've seen you drop this around the place on a couple of occasions and I think it *still* doesn't hold any weight.Originally posted by Shackanory View PostAnyway, back to topic. Here's an interesting take on it.
"AnfieldForum.com @AnfieldForum 7m
Here is a theory on Suarez. He said he wants to stay, is loved by the fans. But deep down he wants champions league so engineered this so he would get sold to a champions league participant but not look like a Judas / fallout with fans in the process. Dunno but interesting. He left Ajax after biting someone, was loved by their fans but wanted to leave, left as a hero, not a judas. Just a thought anyway."
What if the opportune moment of Suarez getting entangled with Ivanovic never ocurred? Was Suarez going to go around randomly plunging his gnashers into whichever Chelsea player crossed his path? Coz he wants to leave a football club and player for another football club in a footballing world where loyalty means nothing.
Suarez was being marshalled by Ivanovic quite well; he was getting frustrated at (probable) niggles throughout the first half, our lack of fluidity in the final third and how he was just having 'one of those games'. He was getting so frustrated with Ivanovic, they exchanged words in the tunnel at half time (rumoured).
Such was the frustration at Ivanovic getting the better of him again, he lost it and went for him - nothing premeditated - just the red mist descending and he bit him. It's not like he hasn't got form for doing this; he was petulant, stupid and lost his head ... not in control and thinking straight.
Sorry, but I can't see it being some tiny cog in a grand masterplan.Last edited by Muddled; 25-04-13, 09:19 AM.
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From my point of view now, I look at it like we need a good start to the new season. I want Liverpool fighting for Top 4. We cant really do that with our best player essentially missing the first 2 months of the season.
I really dont know if it would be better to sell him for £40m and get in two new strikers for £20m a piece or a new £40m star player. Not that any of the people I am thinking of would come to us.*Except Michael, who died.
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Not read the last few pages because its all too depressing so this may have already been posted, and I still say Suarez is a complete prat for creating this situation, however the idea that what he did is worthy of a more serious ban than the video below is just utterly absurd
[ame="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh17rw_ben-thatcher-elbow-on-pedro-mendes_shortfilms"]Ben Thatcher Elbow On Pedro Mendes - Video Dailymotion[/ame]I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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Yup, it is plainly a ridiculous idea. As if any footballer in the modern age has to "engineer" a move by premeditatedly biting someoneOriginally posted by Muddled View PostI've seen you drop this around the place on a couple of occasions and I think it *still* doesn't hold any weight..
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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